Unity Pure Onyx [v0.130.0] [Eromancer]

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KittyMaid

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Buziol said:
I wouldn't bother if I didn't see a bunch of shillers coming here and praising the game for nice graphics, as if they discovered an indie gem/unicorn in the making...and not a project that can go on for a decade and not reach anywhere.

So, for as long as I'll be seeing completely oblivious people here and no tag/sign for the entire thread that it is a milking project (yes, I think we should have a category for that), I will be coming back to "straighten" some of the more ridiculous claims that pop up from time to time.

Besides...why do you even care? :)
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The thread has 2.5 stars, its already a known fact the game is crap to the majority the ppl posting above me are proof of that, you are NOT doing anyone a favor at this point, as if u have discovered new knowledge no one knows or something. There are barely any schillers if any, ur just convincing urself ur doing something "good".
The milking argument is also such a basic excuse, when its obvious that if you release content more frequent you gain a larger following which will bring a bigger income if income was the "real goal". There is lots of half finished stuff he could release for more money if he wanted. So clearly money its not the case, the guy just wants to work at HIS own pace and do things as HE likes them and you can either stay or leave.
Also we care because its the same old arguments being made only to clog up the thread, its become a big issue that even the mods made a rule for it.
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That literally descries you and ur "help", wen someone says game is gud you immediately derail to discuss the same arguments about development speed, delays, ect
 
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Buziol

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OnyxShadow said:
I think its a fair point. There's thousands of comments and dozens of reviews that all say that same thing. Its like a poisonous swamp that already has 20 warning signs at the entrance, but everyone feels like they need to add just one more...like they are going to be the one to finally change everyone's mind.

There's plenty of people that (if perhaps still not happy with the pace) are willing to put up with it and just want to utilize this thread to find information, updates, or links. Needing to scroll past 3 whiny posts for every helpful one is not so nice.
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That would be a fair point you make but...
...have you noticed that people here on F95 DON'T read even the previous freaking comment?

I mean, literally, people ask for updates 3 hours after update was dropped 2 posts above theirs.
Or do this:
Buziol said:
I can't with you people sometimes...
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And before @Poggersq starts thinking I'm here 24/7 - don't worry, as I said, I only address the most outlandish claims that pop up from time to time (stuff like "oh, but it's not a lot of money, you need to divide it by 5/10/13 people").

EDIT: Since Kitty woke up.
OnyxShadow said:
Also we care because its the same old arguments being made only to clog up the thread, its become a big issue that even the mods made a rule for it.
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That literally descries you and ur "help", wen someone says game is gud you immediately derail to discuss the same arguments about development speed, delays, ect
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Look up the above - outlandish claims is all I care about these days. Really, we can end the topic with this.
 
Poggersq

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Dee1414 said:
Isn't the point of this forum to discuss quality of the game and call out bad actors when they exist? So many people discover a game and take a look at the recent comments to see what state the game is. That's kind of the point. If all the criticism is buried then it might be difficult to make a decent choice if you were to give money to the dev or not, especially when some devs make it their personal mission to cover up any justified criticism they receive. This aint a game studio with stakeholders and executive board members, this is an independent dev team that has no one to stop them from saying or doing whatever they want, so it's important it get's pointed out, repeatedly, if there is unethical work being done.

There are definitely worst devs than Eromancer when it comes to shady practices, but no one can argue that it's been a very long time since their first game was announced (MATM) and they started collecting money with no finished game released since. At least they're a least somewhat transparent about it, though.
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are you implying to me that the quality of said game is the only topic you guys know? do you not have other topics to discuss, or other games to discuss quality on???
 
Poggersq

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Buziol said:
That would be a fair point you make but...
...have you noticed that people here on F95 DON'T read even the previous freaking comment?

I mean, literally, people ask for updates 3 hours after update was dropped 2 posts above theirs.
Or do this:


And before @Poggersq starts thinking I'm here 24/7 - don't worry, as I said, I only address the most outlandish claims that pop up from time to time (stuff like "oh, but it's not a lot of money, you need to divide it by 5/10/13 people").

EDIT: Since Kitty woke up.

Look up the above - outlandish claims is all I care about these days. Really, we can end the topic with this.
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fair enough
 
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KittyMaid

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Buziol said:
Look up the above - outlandish claims is all I care about these days. Really, we can end the topic with this.
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u said that, those are you own words. Shillers and ppl praising nice graphics is "why u bother", where are the "bunch" of shillers? so far i've only seen ppl shitting on it.
 
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Poggersq said:
are you implying to me that the quality of said game is the only topic you guys know? do you not have other topics to discuss, or other games to discuss quality on???
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My first sentence was about how f95 is for discussing the quality of the game and this is my first post on this page's forum after reading the recent comments. I also note that you have posted many times arguing with multiple people who are displeased with the dev cycle. Kitty is right that there is no sense beating a dead horse so I'm not going to weigh in anymore, especially because I don't think Eromancer is manipulating anyone or anything, they're just slow, which they are allowed to be as long as the monetary supporters are aware of the timelines. Before I go, to clear up any misunderstanding, my main point is this: some developers lead on potential subscribers with half truths or even outright lies with the purpose of acquiring or maintaining subscriptions. They can moderate their patreon, subscribestar, or whatever to ensure that this isn't exposed, but they can't here. Which means F95 is the central place for people to talk about it. People posting 800 times saying WHY ISNT IT OUT YET isn't helpful, but neither is arguing with them about it, because THATS what clogs up the forum because it turns into a stupid back and forth, like this, right now. Let em say their complaint and move on.
 
Poggersq

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Dee1414 said:
My first sentence was about how f95 is for discussing the quality of the game and this is my first post on this page's forum after reading the recent comments. I also note that you have posted many times arguing with multiple people who are displeased with the dev cycle. Kitty is right that there is no sense beating a dead horse so I'm not going to weigh in anymore, especially because I don't think Eromancer is manipulating anyone or anything, they're just slow, which they are allowed to be as long as the monetary supporters are aware of the timelines. Before I go, to clear up any misunderstanding, my main point is this: some developers lead on potential subscribers with half truths or even outright lies with the purpose of acquiring or maintaining subscriptions. They can moderate their patreon, subscribestar, or whatever to ensure that this isn't exposed, but they can't here. Which means F95 is the central place for people to talk about it. People posting 800 times saying WHY ISNT IT OUT YET isn't helpful, but neither is arguing with them about it, because THATS what clogs up the forum because it turns into a stupid back and forth, like this, right now. Let em say their complaint and move on.
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3 times is many comments.... ok noted, now that nonsense out of the way: you are one of the people who don't check the previous comments, kekw didn't you just see earlier that i commented fair enough to someone else giving a different perspective on the matter? not only that but they have a point, as do i in the way that people who scroll comments being to lazy to use search button comment things others have numerous times. i am not arguing with them: i am only giving a statement, all anyone else did was give me a different perspective on the same opinion and how they go about it: i never said for them to change their way of thinking, just going on a yapping rant to find some other game for the time being, if only a little while. all this essay is a nothing salad with the ending being the point, so i will address that now. i don't care that they are saying their complaints, even for several times: all i said was find something else to comment about, heck even praising the games only saving grace: the graphics and details of the H-scene, or even games similar to this one, but better (i can think of multiple but that is not the point). what clogs up the forum really is people who are stuck, people who want saves/information (even if they violate chat rules), and people who tell them about it.
 
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