Githype
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He abandoned his first game- https://f95zone.to/threads/malise-and-the-machine-v0-0511-eromancer.530/
Fudgesicles
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So after reading that the game is semi-censored (switching rape-y elements into... semi-consensual(?) content) I downloaded the latest update and checked it out.
God fuck, the gameplay is crap. For a beat'em-up, the game staggers yourself and enemies a lot, the enemies stun-lock you from time to time and they are always in an angle to you that you have to move into their attacks before being able to attack.
Also, seeing this being a game that has an animation added every two to three months without any other note-worthy changes FOR TWO YEARS, this is beyond scamming, this is advanced scamming.
The issue that they have to update the animations an entire year after the biggest Patreon re-branding only shows that this is just another sad excuse to postpone creating actual content. They have to change their animations and will take another year to do that before they even consider creating new content, yet alone something beyond an animation in a quarter of a year.
God fuck, the gameplay is crap. For a beat'em-up, the game staggers yourself and enemies a lot, the enemies stun-lock you from time to time and they are always in an angle to you that you have to move into their attacks before being able to attack.
Also, seeing this being a game that has an animation added every two to three months without any other note-worthy changes FOR TWO YEARS, this is beyond scamming, this is advanced scamming.
The issue that they have to update the animations an entire year after the biggest Patreon re-branding only shows that this is just another sad excuse to postpone creating actual content. They have to change their animations and will take another year to do that before they even consider creating new content, yet alone something beyond an animation in a quarter of a year.
No no, they're still developing it. It's totally true, they say that they're just retooling the game engine and visuals to improve things but it's being worked on. It's their flagship project after all.
Joking here obviously (at least I hope it's obvious to people).
OnyxShadow
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Did anyone ever find the December 31, 2021 version? That seems to be the final version before they jumped the shark. It includes sound for the cop threesome and all the bunny girl stuff. I could never track it down.
Wearablenine
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During the later cycles of development for this game, all they had for updates was background art with absolutely no content added to the game. Worst offense is the dev had an "inner" circle where followers had to pay extra just to view updates. This was all leaked when a former follower got ticked off and he decided to show screenshots of the updates from being in the inner circle.
With Pure Onyx, I thought maybe the devs have redeemed themselves but judging from recent comments...I guess not.
Well, it was fun while it lasted I guess... So from what I understand the November 2021 build is the last 'proper' one.
Nghtly
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Motha fucka hold up, is this for real
The bonerific traits of an H game are that it can transcend the sanitization of the real world and dig into the real taboo aspects of sexuality without the limitations and ramifications of IRL.
Also, I'm not really well versed into the realities of online transactions, but I can't imagine Patreon not having a governmental entity enforcing what content can and cannot have transactions tied to them. If I'm Patreon, a middleman between consumer and creator, there's no way I'm not taking a cut of every-fucking-penny that flows through me - I just can't see a middleman business like Patreon putting morals before money. Albeit I could be wrong on that I suppose.
With that said, and assuming henceforth every middleman business inevitably falls under the finger of big brother, what transaction houses wouldn't be subject to governmental influence? Would we need to establish a direct, decentralized link between creator and consumer? The aim being to avoid H games being scrubbed into squeaky clean softcore powerpoint slides.
Where my lawyer bros at, I know you degens lurk when you're not billing a client u horny bois, help us save our 2d/3d pornos
Edit: Of course, staying within the bounds of the law. Trying to brainstorm avenues for creators to monetize their content without having to gimp their talents by adhering to a middleman's wagging finger.
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ShittyAccount23
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Changelog hasn't been updated and from my quick perouse of the previous pages; the only changes were audio for some animations and maybe 2 scenes or just 2 animations?
Axeltheflurryofflames
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When it comes to Patreon and their guidelines on sexual content, most notably Non-con and Bestiality when it comes to hentai games and problems its caused for games in the past, its largely to placate payment processing companies as they all tend to take a VERY hard stance on most things NSFW in terms of porn. Patreon themselves I doubt care in the slightest, and aren't admittedly the best at even regulating all this content overly consistently on their own platform, hell generally speaking as long as there is no actual allusions to, or animations/artwork depicting it on the actual patreon page itself, a creator can USUALLY slide on by just fine. However, I can list more than a few creators that have either been outright banned from the platform for featuring depictions that are arguably non-con (Jlullaby being one the of biggest names to mention in terms of just art.), and even more for the latter in terms of zoophilic content, Happy Heart Panic being probably the latest I can recall getting slapped on the wrist for this and forced to redesign an enemy for looking too much like a fly, though there are games that have outright had to remove dogs and other animal like creatures from their games to get by the ruling. It really just depends if patreon winds up taking notice, either due to reports or them picking it up through some automated system of theirs, hard to say.
Of course, thing for me with this is Eromancer, and I'm generally PRETTY generous with giving them wiggle room compared to most, should have really known most of this by now. Hell, if they're censoring non-con content, unless their dog-like enemies end up passing enough to be considered monsters/robots instead of animals, there won't even wind up being zoophilic content in the game like they've kind of already teased will be.
All in all, can't say I'm too shocked this is happening really, but its a real shame in the end. As long as they don't get too hung up on this, and actually keep putting in quality animations, which at least they DO have a quality animator to do exactly that, it won't be much of an issue in the long run, but this is definitely one of those games I don't ever expect to actually be finished much like Malice and the Machine, either just due to them constantly dragging out development purposefully or through poor decisions, and if not that just due to the games pretty sluggish development pace and amount of content for its development time thus far. Only time will tell ultimately.
Sharks are Evil
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whatever happens Eromancer will keep milking the people paying him money. 95% of updates in the last year were meaningless bug fixes, you get 1 sex animation every month. for the amount of earnings this game is making there should be 10 of these plus new enemies/areas and a huge amount of quality of life updates.
it doesn't matter what happens with Patreon, this game doesn't exists to progress but to milk fans for more cash, period. we've been getting old content that was finished years ago as "new" content. if I were you I would stop commenting in this thread, if you really love this game, then let Eromancer starve, maybe when the cash flow stops the game will actually see some real progress, or be replaced with his new game for more milking, only time will tell.
fuck this dev. anyone supporting this game/dev financially is a fucking asshat.
Hereje
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he did it once, now he does it twice...how the fuck this asshole can make 15k monthly and deliver soo little? I was supporting "malise and the machine" a few years ago but after all the shitshow I dont trust this dev enough to give him money again...why are soo many idiots giving him money after all of that?! he already proved that he cant finish a game no matter the amount of support he gets...this asshole and the cloud meadow dev are the main reasons why I'm such a cynic towards western eroge devs.
Lols.
Maybe they should stick with less ambitious projects and do something remotely simple; or focused their attention on one project instead of scrapping a former and perhaps they would of had a working title after x+ years of development.
I wouldn't be surprise if this gets axed and they strive for a third 'reasonable' project to cater to Patrons demands.
Maybe they should stick with less ambitious projects and do something remotely simple; or focused their attention on one project instead of scrapping a former and perhaps they would of had a working title after x+ years of development.
I wouldn't be surprise if this gets axed and they strive for a third 'reasonable' project to cater to Patrons demands.
Just wtf, I tried the game quite some time ago and now i see they 'had to remove' animations to please and to bend over backwards for daddy to patreon...
But my question is that who are their costumers? patreon? or the fans who sub on the platform called patreon.
Understandable cuz money, but i wish dev saw that the fans need pleasing and not the platform.
Im sure you can change platform, can you change the fans?
But my question is that who are their costumers? patreon? or the fans who sub on the platform called patreon.
Understandable cuz money, but i wish dev saw that the fans need pleasing and not the platform.
Im sure you can change platform, can you change the fans?
I am sorry, but I just had to drop in to say that:
"The bonerific traits of an H game are that it can transcend the sanitization of the real world and dig into the real taboo aspects of sexuality without the limitations and ramifications of IRL." - is about the most dogshit take I ever saw regarding H-games.