Mortimer

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*Puts historian hats on, altough this isn't really the time or place to do that*

Actual black people from sub-Saharian Africa were exceedingly rare in Europe in the Middle Ages, and most likely a paesant even in one of the biggest cities like Paris or Prague would spend his entire life without seeing one. That being said, you could probably find some black traders and/or nobles in Istanbul under the Ottoman Empire, as they somewhat frequently traded with Ethiopia, but that's not really "the Middle Ages".

*Puts historian hat off, and disappears in the nebulous folds of time*
To put my own historian hat on for a second I would just like to add that the medieval times are full of contradictions or things that seem contradictory to us. There was the right of pilgrimage which even poor folk took part in. Church law guaranteed that right and the right of way through all Christian lands. Muslim rulers also allowed Christian pilgrimages, hoping for positive economic effects. A popular destination for pilgrims would have been Santiago de Compostela, where they would have probably encountered more black or Moorish peoples. As for the "contradictions of medieval times" there are pilgrims going to the holy land even during the times of the Crusades. The accounts of Margaret of Beverley show one woman going on pilgrimage by her own. Her story might make for a good H-Game.
 
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Rizo

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Love the game it's based on so will check it out for sure. Thanks for the share as always.
 

Kite80

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A partial fix for the gallery issue: now it's opening but pics stay unlocked (haven't found a solution at this problem yet)
 

Spawk

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There was the right of pilgrimage which even poor folk took part in. Church law guaranteed that right and the right of way through all Christian lands.
Firstly. You don't have the money or time to travel the world unless you're noble. Secondly, if you are not a noble, it means that you do not have a retinue to defend yourself against bandits and nobles. Thirdly, this is not the 21st century, where there is a Google translator that allows me to communicate with you. You cannot approach a resident of another country and ask for directions. Fourth, even in the 21st century there is racism. Think about the extent of racism in the 10th century, for peasants, a black man would most likely be cursed/sick/possessed. They don't understand genetics, they don't know that people can be non-white. Fifth, in many cultures, peasants cannot go anywhere without the permission of their overlord.

Muslim rulers also allowed Christian pilgrimages, hoping for positive economic effects. A popular destination for pilgrims would have been Santiago de Compostela, where they would have probably encountered more black or Moorish peoples. As for the "contradictions of medieval times" there are pilgrims going to the holy land even during the times of the Crusades.
Oh yes, religious tolerance was obviously at its peak during this time period in all of human history. And even a simple peasant living near Paris could go to Jerusalem. Friend, wake up, even in the 21st century people cannot afford to travel to another country, you are talking about some pilgrims in the Middle Ages.
 

gungnir343

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To put my own historian hat on for a second I would just like to add that the medieval times are full of contradictions or things that seem contradictory to us. There was the right of pilgrimage which even poor folk took part in. Church law guaranteed that right and the right of way through all Christian lands. Muslim rulers also allowed Christian pilgrimages, hoping for positive economic effects. A popular destination for pilgrims would have been Santiago de Compostela, where they would have probably encountered more black or Moorish peoples. As for the "contradictions of medieval times" there are pilgrims going to the holy land even during the times of the Crusades. The accounts of Margaret of Beverley show one woman going on pilgrimage by her own. Her story might make for a good H-Game.
Remember though, "Moor" at the time meant "Arab" (or Berber), essentially, not "black person" like it did later on. Arabs, and more generally people from Mediterranean Africa, can have very fair skin, imagining the Northern African Muslims as black is not really accurate. Also, the kigdom of Spain was THE most intolerant place in Europe, Muslims and Jews were expelled en masse from there by the end of the Middle Ages. If there was one place in medieval Europe were you would almost certainly not meet a black person ever, that's Spain. And anyway Santiago, being in Galicia, was never reached by the Moors.

But we shouldn't go too off-topic, there are better places to discuss history anyway :ROFLMAO:
 

Ellenor

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Nice I enjoyed it though it bears a glraingly striking resemblance to ntrmans queen who adopted a goblin, would have been better if the scenarios and ending are significantly different from the other game. the scenes are hot but definitely has more room for improvement and creativity. Cheers!!
 

Law and Law

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When you are riping off other game at least do it good will ya ? Damm 3D model and game fucking bugs as Bethesda Games :v
 

Ninjaperv

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The options given didn't really show anything new, I wish there was more interactivity in the choices made. Like the son could have more options to save the Queen and the others or corrupt them more and get in on the action.
 
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