VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.02] [Underground Studio]

[Krytax123]

You can (eventually) be straightforward if you decide to pursue a relationship with her. You're annoyingly indecisive if you want the MC to stop leading the woman on. It's an important distinction that can really color our interpretation of the MC if we have a cynical mindset, especially given how thick the MC pours it on if we do pursue Veronica.

I don't think we're supposed to think the MC is deliberately manipulating her to get better sex, but the whole "cheating makes the sex hotter" path isn't exactly fighting that impression.

Uhm sorry but i have to disagree, thats on day 1 of the story:



I would like the possibility to entirely break up with her sooner too tho but more straight forward is barely possible.

 

[ename144]

Uhm sorry but i have to disagree, thats on day 1 of the story:

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I would like the possibility to entirely break up with her sooner too tho but more straight forward is barely possible.

I guess we look for different things out of a relationship, since she's obviously unhappy with that statement and goes on to push the boundary of just "having fun" several times over the next few days. The MC draws a line in the sand, but isn't willing to enforce it.

I'm not saying that the MC is responsible for how Veronica feels, but to me this is the same "ignoring a lingering problem" issue that torpedoed his last relationship - even if the desired goal is inverted. I'd like to see him take it a little more seriously this time. Instead, it's Veronica who has to put on her big girl pants and force them onto the same page (again, assuming the MC isn't willing to commit to her).

 

[Krytax123]

I guess we look for different things out of a relationship, since she's obviously unhappy with that statement and goes on to push the boundary of just "having fun" several times over the next few days. The MC draws a line in the sand, but isn't willing to enforce it.

I'm not saying that the MC is responsible for how Veronica feels, but to me this is the same "ignoring a lingering problem" issue that torpedoed his last relationship - even if the desired goal is inverted. I'd like to see him take it a little more seriously this time. Instead, it's Veronica who has to put on her big girl pants and force them onto the same page (again, assuming the MC isn't willing to commit to her).

I mean he puts his cards on the table when you Play him like that.

He plainly says I don’t want a relationship and am not made for it.

Now its her turn to decide if casual hookups are enough for her or not.

I consider that open and honest communication.

Shes a mature woman who can make her own decisions

Its not compareable as he simply doesnt consider it a real relationship on this path

He will just enjoy having fun together until she breaks it up or gets serious with someone else

thats kinda how casual fuckbuddy relationships work

And nobody forced her to have sex with him while not being serious/exclusive

 

[Mr_Mister]

Mc should get a PHD on dumbassery !, the fact that he can't put 2 and 2 together to conclude that Nathaly is a corporate spy and for some reason even Maggie rub me the wrong way (pun intended) , all that drama about her mother and her stepfather sounds like hogwash , Maggie and Nathaly are two faces of the same coin.
it wouldn't surprised me at all if Lily's tragedy wasn't an accident at all , maybe that was the only way to make the Mc vulnerable so he let his guard down and be an easy prey for Maggie or Nathaly , so either can steal the battery thing.

 

[cooldevo]

Mc should get a PHD on dumbassery !, the fact that he can't put 2 and 2 together to conclude that Nathaly is a corporate spy and for some reason even Maggie rub me the wrong way (pun intended) , all that drama about her mother and her stepfather sounds like hogwash , Maggie and Nathaly are two faces of the same coin.
it wouldn't surprised me at all if Lily's tragedy wasn't an accident at all , maybe that was the only way to make the Mc vulnerable so he let his guard down and be an easy prey for Maggie or Nathaly , so either can steal the battery thing.

The mysterious guy at the house on Maggie's questline implies it wasn't actually an accident, based on how I read it. I can't recall if Wyatt says anything at that time, other the getting upset if you beat him up.

When you find Wyatt, after the above scene, he's waiting at your car after the one race, I *thought* he said something along the same line as well.

If it's Wyatt, it seems more like his obsession with Allie and wanting to get Jake and perhaps Lily out of the picture. But he's obviously "in" with whomever the mystery person on the Maggie questline is... as the guy says he can control Wyatt, but obviously can't as he shows up at the race afterwards to threaten Jake.

 

[quickano4]

how do i get this scene? i tried everything

 

[ename144]

I mean he puts his cards on the table when you Play him like that.

He plainly says I don’t want a relationship and am not made for it.

Now its her turn to decide if casual hookups are enough for her or not.

I consider that open and honest communication.

Shes a mature woman who can make her own decisions

Its not compareable as he simply doesnt consider it a real relationship on this path

He will just enjoy having fun together until she breaks it up or gets serious with someone else

thats kinda how casual fuckbuddy relationships work

And nobody forced her to have sex with him while not being serious/exclusive

It's not about assigning blame in the technical sense, it's about what the MC expects to happen. After all, he has a figurative magic penis. Girls can't help but throw themselves at him no matter how he treats them - even Allison needs a concerted effort to overcome the allure. So when you say he's putting his cards on the table, does that mean he wants Veronica make an informed choice, or does he expect her to go along with whatever he wants because she can't bear the thought of losing him? The latter is still not his fault per se, but it does make his lifestyle a lot more destructive than I'd like.

I don't think we're intended to view the MC as accepting that destruction to get what he wants, and for the most part I don't really believe it myself. But there are times when I have to wonder, given some of the things he gets up to on certain paths. For all the talk about him being a good father and our ability to improve his personality, he can be stunningly immature at the drop of a hat. I guess that just rubs me the wrong way.

EDIT:
Actually, Jasmine nicely sums the MC up for me:

For what it's worth, the MC never disputes he's Veronica's boyfriend, either.

 

[TheNowhereWolf]

The mysterious guy at the house on Maggie's questline implies it wasn't actually an accident, based on how I read it. I can't recall if Wyatt says anything at that time, other the getting upset if you beat him up.

When you find Wyatt, after the above scene, he's waiting at your car after the one race, I *thought* he said something along the same line as well.

If it's Wyatt, it seems more like his obsession with Allie and wanting to get Jake and perhaps Lily out of the picture. But he's obviously "in" with whomever the mystery person on the Maggie questline is... as the guy says he can control Wyatt, but obviously can't as he shows up at the race afterwards to threaten Jake.

Lilly being hit was definitely not an accident, Wyatt(rapey mcrapeface) Is obviously still mad that Allie was "taken" from him when MC saved her in the past. Now he has the backing of the baby dick gangster guy and probably thinks he is untouchable, likely is for now at least as MC was stopped from kicking the shit out of him anymore.

He was stalking the house, before Lilly was hit I'm pretty sure, then you have the stuff with Maggie at the house that burns down, you have the break in at Allie's house, pretty sure her tired are slashed at some point too, which was if not Wyatt then someone who he works with. There Is If I'm remembering right a conversation about getting locks changed not long before the conference since she can't feel safe at home which Is one of the main reasons I asked her to the conference, better having her with or close as possible to the MC with the bs that Is likely coming down the road.

 

[byaaahh]

View attachment 4350078 how do i get this scene? i tried everything

Stay off Jasmine path, invite Natalya to conference.

 

[TonyMurray]

On the 'good' path, Jake takes almost ALL the blame. He even says as much several times, that he wasn't there. From the conversation at the park, to the driving to/from WUI. Even at the dinner date, he takes the blame. Never once tries to turn anything to her, it was all MC.

On the 'hate' path, the blame is written as almost exclusively Allie's fault. I've never done this path, just going off what other posters have said. That she was never around, she ignored him. Jake says most of the items, and Allie has a lot of ellipses.

So the conversation differences are sprinkled around quite heavily it seems.

I get that it was likely both somewhat at fault, but the dev/author seems to want the main responsibility to depend on the path you are taking.

Just to confirm for the second time, when I said "not much difference in dialogue" and what was there was primarily in the chat with Cammy, I refer to just what happened in 3.2, not before. The talk in the park and the dinner date/hate fuck were before this. I was literally just reporting on the difference between the "good" and "bad" path solely for the latest update.

 

[Krytax123]

It's not about assigning blame in the technical sense, it's about what the MC expects to happen. After all, he has a figurative magic penis. Girls can't help but throw themselves at him no matter how he treats them - even Allison needs a concerted effort to overcome the allure. So when you say he's putting his cards on the table, does that mean he wants Veronica make an informed choice, or does he expect her to go along with whatever he wants because she can't bear the thought of losing him? The latter is still not his fault per se, but it does make his lifestyle a lot more destructive than I'd like.

I don't think we're intended to view the MC as accepting that destruction to get what he wants, and for the most part I don't really believe it myself. But there are times when I have to wonder, given some of the things he gets up to on certain paths. For all the talk about him being a good father and our ability to improve his personality, he can be stunningly immature at the drop of a hat. I guess that just rubs me the wrong way.

EDIT:
Actually, Jasmine nicely sums the MC up for me:
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For what it's worth, the MC never disputes he's Veronica's boyfriend, either.

Yeah he never disputes it in front of others like jasmine (which is strange) but it could be excused with him not wanting to explain their exact relationship to Jasmine. I mean is he supposed to tell her "Nah, we only fuck." ?

And imo it gives veronica (if you take this choice) the possibility to make a informed decision. Breaking up with her "for her sake" would be kinda belittling/disrespecting and like this woman isnt able to make decisions for herself.

She was fine with fucking around for 6 months without committment already, she obviously enjoys to have fun herself too.

You could even turn it around and argue that she tries to "manipulate" him into a relationship despite his clear reservation (but i think thats dumb too).

Lilly being hit was definitely not an accident, Wyatt(rapey mcrapeface) Is obviously still mad that Allie was "taken" from him when MC saved her in the past. Now he has the backing of the baby dick gangster guy and probably thinks he is untouchable, likely is for now at least as MC was stopped from kicking the shit out of him anymore.

He was stalking the house, before Lilly was hit I'm pretty sure, then you have the stuff with Maggie at the house that burns down, you have the break in at Allie's house, pretty sure her tired are slashed at some point too, which was if not Wyatt then someone who he works with. There Is If I'm remembering right a conversation about getting locks changed not long before the conference since she can't feel safe at home which Is one of the main reasons I asked her to the conference, better having her with or close as possible to the MC with the bs that Is likely coming down the road.

I think Wyatt is on his own with the lily thing. But so far neither the gangster nor Wyatt has admitted anything.

Pretty sure the gangster was unaware of anything about lily as he seemed to have no clue why the mc would have followed Wyatt to the house (which gave the mc the perfect excuse to hide why he was there in the first place).

I think thats Wyatt in the background too:


It seems like allie forgot to change the locks tho as Jake‘s keys still worked when he picked her up for the ball.

 

[MIkedante]

Yeah he never disputes it in front of other like jasmine (which is strange) but it could be excused with him not wanting to explain their exact relationship to Jasmine. I mean is he supposed to tell her "Nah, we only fuck." ?

And imo it gives veronica (if you take this choice) the possibility to make a informed decision. Breaking up with her "for her sake" would be kinda belittling/disrespecting and like this woman isnt able to make decisions for herself.

She was fine with fucking around for 6 months without committment already, she obviously enjoys to have fun herself too.

You could even turn it around and argue that she tries to "manipulate" him into a relationship despite his clear reservation (but i think thats dumb too).




I think Wyatt is on his own with the lily thing. But so far neither the gangster nor Wyatt has admitted anything.

Pretty sure the gangster was unaware of anything about lily as he seemed to have no clue why the mc would have followed to the house (which gave the mc the perfect excuse to hide why he was there in the first place).

I think thats Wyatt in the background too:

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It seems like allie forgot to change the locks tho as Jake‘s keys still worked when he picked her up for the ball.

Quick question: Is that Wyatt watching them from behind?

 

[TheNowhereWolf]

Yeah he never disputes it in front of other like jasmine (which is strange) but it could be excused with him not wanting to explain their exact relationship to Jasmine. I mean is he supposed to tell her "Nah, we only fuck." ?

And imo it gives veronica (if you take this choice) the possibility to make a informed decision. Breaking up with her "for her sake" would be kinda belittling/disrespecting and like this woman isnt able to make decisions for herself.

She was fine with fucking around for 6 months without committment already, she obviously enjoys to have fun herself too.

You could even turn it around and argue that she tries to "manipulate" him into a relationship despite his clear reservation (but i think thats dumb too).




I think Wyatt is on his own with the lily thing. But so far neither the gangster nor Wyatt has admitted anything.

Pretty sure the gangster was unaware of anything about lily as he seemed to have no clue why the mc would have followed to the house (which gave the mc the perfect excuse to hide why he was there in the first place).

I think thats Wyatt in the background too:

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It seems like allie forgot to change the locks tho as Jake‘s keys still worked when he picked her up for the ball.

At the moment I don't think I'd say the gangster knows anything about who MC is to Wyatt, maybe not everything anyway, just mean Wyatt is protected since the gangster seems to need him. I am very pessimistic overall so I am always expecting the absolute worst, when things ramp up I doubt Allie, Lilly and any LI's will be safe.

 

[Krytax123]

Quick question: Is that Wyatt watching them from behind?

Thats what im thinking

 

[Scooter_Tramp]

Seriously???

In 1982, Canada adopted its own constitution and became a completely independent country from England. Although it’s still part of the British Commonwealth—a constitutional monarchy that accepts the British monarch as its own. Charles III is King of Canada. However, his role is essentially ceremonial, and he does not interfere in Canadian self-governance.

Since 1867 Canada has had a Prime Minister as the head of state, and decisions over the running of the country were made by our elected officials, not the monarchy...

 

[Ilhares]

Since 1867 Canada has had a Prime Minister as the head of state, and decisions over the running of the country were made by our elected officials, not the monarchy...

As long as you have their monarchs on your money you're a subject of the crown. Just like Australia.

 

[Quibble Bubble]

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Seriously???

In 1982, Canada adopted its own constitution and became a completely independent country from England. Although it’s still part of the British Commonwealth—a constitutional monarchy that accepts the British monarch as its own. Charles III is King of Canada. However, his role is essentially ceremonial, and he does not interfere in Canadian self-governance.

Since 1867 Canada has had a Prime Minister as the head of state, and decisions over the running of the country were made by our elected officials, not the monarchy...

Nah.
The Prime Minister is the Head of Government, The King is the Head of State.

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[TonyMurray]

Finished all of my playthroughs, and I'm really enjoying this game (still). Jasmine was a delight with all her teasing and poking of Veronica.


This was a bit harsh though, considering the game:


I did find one issue as I was doing an "others" save UndergroundStudio. I just took Jasmine and Natalya to the conference, went to the sauna with them, and then when fistbumping Jasmine, it would throw me back to the start menu. Using URM, it looks like there are three options and because I was on neither a Jasmine or a Natalya path, it had no "true" option to allow the game to continue.

 

[walker188]

Well said. Additionally she starts to show appreciation for these actions quite quickly. I know it's weird but I constantly feel like she's dying to forgive him and fall into his arms again... while also being a sincerely pissed off bitch who wants him to pay for his actions. Every time he's cool with her it seems that forgiveness goes up and "pissed off" goes down.

Well, apparently his dick is absolutely top notch.

 

[hashybrowny]

hey guys! question: how is the pace of this game? is it looking like it will take an eternity to complete the game? if so, i'll defer to when game is complete.

for eg. I will probably never play a wife and mother; but i have high hopes for this one.