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Wow
I really pissed everyone off...

I said I was trying to avoid spoilers but I never said I wouldn't eat spoilers...

I already know that I'm taking this risk by reading the last pages.

That's why I didn't tell anyone (Don't give spoilers, asshole)

Because I have no right to...

Does making fun of me make you cooler at least?
I didn't think your original post was complaining about spoilers at all, just a throwaway comment, but most responses are more about pointing out the futility of trying to avoid spoilers. Once a week or so has elapsed, the only way to avoid spoilers is don't go on the thread. People try to get creative and humorous and joke around with their responses, and there really wasn't any pissed off or anger in the responses.

If you had of said 'no spoilers, assholes' the responses would have been VERY different and you definitely WOULD have known that people were pissed off.
 

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anytime I see @xXwankerXx in this thread I think of these 2 memes
If only you could ignore other posts or the users annoying you that much... oh wait, you can. But for some reason you don't.:WaitWhat: Think you should stop blaming me for living rent-free in your head and on your pc, and just go do your own thing instead. Here, I'll help you with this... Allison's the best, sweetest, almost perfect lil pixelated wifey and LI in porn gaming history in a parallel universe vastly different from ours or only if she competed against herself.

my wife burnt the dinner the other night. But I got her back though. Got a BJ from one of the girls at work. That'll teach her. Shouldn't have burnt my dinner.
Proud of you, my G. You showed her who's boss. Big W for the Patriarchy.(y) Do be careful she don't find out about it tho, or you might find yourself in MC's shoes, on the receiving end of a lot of heat.:p

All jokes aside, hope you can at least admit that, in a realistic context, ppl do and say all kinds of stupid things without thinking too much about the consequences until it's too late, and will use all sorts of ridiculous excuses to justify their fuckups. It's why some men and women cheat... out of necessity... yeah, that kinda 'necessity'. Don't believe me, look up the stats, talk to ppl, think of other relationships in your circle of friends, whatever. It does happen a lot... it's wrong, won't argue this, but it still happens bcz it's a biological need not everyone can resist, especially when they find a person they're attracted to and connect with, the exact same shit they don't find in their partner at home anymore.

If Allie "gave MC reasons to do it", the correct response is for MC to walk away.
My dudes, all this "coulda, shoulda, woulda" stuff is just a simple hypothetical we use to discuss stuff like this, stuff we talk about from the pov of the observer, not the person involved in said situation, but just bcz what I said sounds very bad to a few fragile ears here, it doesn't mean it's not something that happens IRL a lot and the main reason why long term relationships and marriages like MC and Allison's fail.

I never once said what the MC did was ok, nor did I defend his behavior and say Allison should've just sucked it up, taken him back and went down on him to 'clean up' the evidence of his casual fun the next sec he popped through her door, but if you take a look at those sweet stats I keep mentioning, most marriages like theirs always end up in divorce due to a few reasons we could argue are valid or not, out of which cheating, jealousy, exaggerated possessiveness, lack of a sex life and lack of respect are the most common ones.

MC and Allison are 30yo, smart, attractive ppl, not 60+ old farts, ffs. They're bound to have options, the fact that she herself admits their marriage was doomed to fail and barely did anything about it should be enough proof to tell you how many fucks she really gave about the inevitable outcome.

I remember Mavi asking some of you a few pages back how long you'd be able to resist the urge to have sex if your Gfs/wives gave you the same treatment Allison did the MC. Walking away from a marriage just to get one's dick wet is simply an absurd argument for all kinds of reasons to which I can only say this, sure, it sounds like the right thing to do in theory, but how often do you see it put in practice ?? Almost never, and I'll let you think about why both men and women don't do this instead of resorting to cheating.

I suspect y'all also forget the lil detail that Jake only cheated on Allison once after a lot of neglecting, various arguments, sometimes the most ridiculous ones you could think of, and after she started prioritizing her career over their marriage, things he confronted her about and to which she didn't really have a valid rebuttal to... he didn't cheat for the lolz and giggles, nor the next second, day, or week she didn't want to give him some sweet TLC... nah, he did it after a few years. So, wrong or not, the story clearly states Allison pushed Jake toward cheating through her actions and treatment of him AND she has a big part of the blame in the divorce, she also holds a grudge toward him for 3/5y like I assume ALL reasonable ppl do:FacePalm:... bitch ain't exactly the most reasonable, mature adult in the story, but the only reason she stayed loyal to Jake is bcz the devs would've gotten a lot of backlash if she got payback or "cucked" him too. IRL, a spiteful, attractive bitch like her will cheat the next sec she found out about it with the next guy(s) she's attracted to.

You can argue how wrong it is all you want, but the fact of the matter is, this is exactly what's gonna happen IRL in at least 8/10 cases in which one of the two partners has options to go to and goes through the exact same shit the MC did, whereas in almost no cases the person with options (!!) receiving this kinda treatment would stay a good lil girl/boy like Allison does for the 'plot'. Reality and real ppl don't work like that, ffs. It's ridiculous to even make a claim like this, unless y'all tell me a porn game's story is more accurate than actual stats and events are lol, which at this point, wouldn't surprise me at all, just like it wouldn't surprise me if we found out V's bipolar in the next update(s).:p
 

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If only you could ignore other posts or the users annoying you that much... oh wait, you can. But for some reason you don't.:WaitWhat: Think you should stop blaming me for living rent-free in your head and on your pc, and just go do your own thing instead. Here, I'll help you with this... Allison's the best, sweetest, almost perfect lil pixelated wifey and LI in porn gaming history in a parallel universe vastly different from ours or only if she competed against herself.
I see you don't know what a joke is.

btw don't need to use the ignore function to ignore which is what I do most of the time in this thread. I just think you are overly harsh and go into the Allie hate to much so I rarely read your post here unless bored. Other threads I do like them usually. So no need to use it
 
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xXwankerXx

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Just that I suspect her ditsy behavior is an act. It's a racing underground where a lot of money is being moved around along with debt collection, disappearances, and whatever other shady shit "Honest Toby" is involved in. It's enough that the FBI would probably be very interested in what's going on.
Patricia notably acts... stupid. And she's good at using her body to distract people. And she's notably in close with Honest Toby.
How crazy would it be if it turned out that both her and Nat are in actuality undercover sexy cops investigating exactly what you said there ?? I'd like to add to what you already mentioned the possibility that the abusive, insecure, idiotic old fart, Ian, is involved too somehow.

I imagine an illegal street racing scene with all those bets going on there is a huge opportunity to make 'honest' money and some other things on the side, but I'd be very disappointed if no mobster and/or corrupt would-be 'philanthropist' pulled the strings behind scenes.:unsure:

The thing that surprised me the most was that our ex-wife had so many fans.
I think she prolly has so many fans fangirling for her just cuz they barely play other paths than hers and Jasmin's. Read some comments admitting just this, but they still troll V and consider her trash. It's like hearing an ostrich that got its head buried in the sand tell you how beautiful the world is.:whistle:

For real now, don't have any problem with anyone liking her for her physical attractiveness... so far, I hate her character, but I won't deny I'd be tempted to give her a good hate-fuck. However, her spiteful personality and all that hate she carries with her for years (lol) are a... temptation killer, to put it politely.

This is why I find it so baffling that she gets so much love and V, who implied she got cheated on and/or probably rostered too at least a few times by some narcissistic assholes, gets so much hate, when her only fault is she's written as an obviously bipolar character that's unreasonably clingy and insecure for a guy she barely even knows and who barely gave a shit about her even before Lily's accident.

Does this also apply to the very many LIs who are being wronged by the various MCs in these renpy porn games?
I think by specifically saying men AND women it naturally means they're included.:WeSmart:

The fact that the game can have such deep and long conversations about relationships shows how successful a work it is...
Guess it's safe to say I already snitched on myself a lot about how much I like debating stuff that happens in very promising stories like this one, and that's simply bcuz you can't exactly do this IRL, for obvious reasons. That's why F95 is your best bet and only friend for this type of conversations.:)

I just think you are overly harsh and go into the Allie hate to much so I rarely read your post here unless bored.
Why am I not surprised at all about this ??:LOL::KEK:
 
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TonyMurray

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My dudes, all this "coulda, shoulda, woulda" stuff is just a simple hypothetical we use to discuss stuff like this, stuff we talk about from the pov of the observer, not the person involved in said situation, but just bcz what I said sounds very bad to a few fragile ears here, it doesn't mean it's not something that happens IRL a lot and the main reason why long term relationships and marriages like MC and Allison's fail.

I never once said what the MC did was ok, nor did I defend his behavior and say Allison should've just sucked it up, taken him back and went down on him to 'clean up' the evidence of his casual fun the next sec he popped through her door, but if you take a look at those sweet stats I keep mentioning, most marriages like theirs always end up in divorce due to a few reasons we could argue are valid or not, out of which cheating, jealousy, exaggerated possessiveness, lack of a sex life and lack of respect are the most common ones.

MC and Allison are 30yo, smart, attractive ppl, not 60+ old farts, ffs. They're bound to have options, the fact that she herself admits their marriage was doomed to fail and barely did anything about it should be enough proof to tell you how many fucks she really gave about the inevitable outcome.

I remember Mavi asking some of you a few pages back how long you'd be able to resist the urge to have sex if your Gfs/wives gave you the same treatment Allison did the MC. Walking away from a marriage just to get one's dick wet is simply an absurd argument for all kinds of reasons to which I can only say this, sure, it sounds like the right thing to do in theory, but how often do you see it put in practice ?? Almost never, and I'll let you think about why both men and women don't do this instead of resorting to cheating.

I suspect y'all also forget the lil detail that Jake only cheated on Allison once after a lot of neglecting, various arguments, sometimes the most ridiculous ones you could think of, and after she started prioritizing her career over their marriage, things he confronted her about and to which she didn't really have a valid rebuttal to... he didn't cheat for the lolz and giggles, nor the next second, day, or week she didn't want to give him some sweet TLC... nah, he did it after a few years. So, wrong or not, the story clearly states Allison pushed Jake toward cheating through her actions and treatment of him AND she has a big part of the blame in the divorce, she also holds a grudge toward him for 3/5y like I assume ALL reasonable ppl do:FacePalm:... bitch ain't exactly the most reasonable, mature adult in the story, but the only reason she stayed loyal to Jake is bcz the devs would've gotten a lot of backlash if she got payback or "cucked" him too. IRL, a spiteful, attractive bitch like her will cheat the next sec she found out about it with the next guy(s) she's attracted to.

You can argue how wrong it is all you want, but the fact of the matter is, this is exactly what's gonna happen IRL in at least 8/10 cases in which one of the two partners has options to go to and goes through the exact same shit the MC did, whereas in almost no cases the person with options (!!) receiving this kinda treatment would stay a good lil girl/boy like Allison does for the 'plot'. Reality and real ppl don't work like that, ffs. It's ridiculous to even make a claim like this, unless y'all tell me a porn game's story is more accurate than actual stats and events are lol, which at this point, wouldn't surprise me at all, just like it wouldn't surprise me if we found out V's bipolar in the next update(s).:p
It's not a case of you not saying what MC did was wrong, it's a case of you suggesting Allison made him cheat. Like it's somehow her fault that he couldn't stop flicking that switch. That's the difference here. You seem to be suggesting that she is to blame for him cheating, but she isn't. She shares the blame for their relationship deteriorating, but that's something completely different. He's the one who decided he would cheat. It doesn't matter if Allie wasn't treating him great leading up to that, it's not an invitation to cheat. You don't get a magical approval because you feel mistreated.

That's why we said there were options. The correct option, if it's not working, is to walk away (and that doesn't mean walking away just to get your dick wet, it means seperation or divorce because of a breakdown of the marriage); the alternative is to stay and try to make it work. If you choose to go and fuck someone else, that's on you - note the wording: you choose. Your partner doesn't make you cheat.

You're just trying to justify a shitty decision, and it's not justifiable. Saying it's something that happens in real life is accurate, but also not justification. Real people cheating is still wrong, and no one here is saying it's not something that happens in the real world...

And lastly, why would it be unreasonable for Allie to hold a grudge here? I think you have some pretty unreasonable views of human relationships. But, they are your views, right or wrong, and I'm tapping out because there's no point continuing to rehash the same old argument.
 

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I dont remember such a girl in the game what i did wrong? also i wonder if theres a Allison Route
Patricia (race starter girl) is a side girl like Tiana (black nurse chick). She has not much scene time in Act I, but already a fans' fav side girl if you ask me. Btw, Jericho85 here has a very cool theory about her. ;)

Like TonyMurray said, there are two routes for Allie:
  • Route 1 - (You're good with Allie, and she loves you)
  • Route 2 - (You're bad with Allie, and she hates you)
For the Route 1, be cool with her. Don't make fun of her. When she's angry, keep calm. Take her to prom, conference, etc. FYI, this's a very slow burn. Don't expect any "hot" moments with her, yet. For the Route 2, do the exact opposite of what you do for Route 1. Be a badass. Keep mocking her. When she's angry, say "fuck you bitch". Don't take her anywhere. You'll get a hate fuck scene with her, and prolly you never gonna see her again in the story. :LOL:
 

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  • Route 1 - (You're good with Allie, and she loves you)
  • Route 2 - (You're bad with Allie, and she hates you)
For the Route 1, be cool with her. Don't make fun of her. When she's angry, keep calm. Take her to prom, conference, etc. FYI, this's a very slow burn. Don't expect any "hot" moments with her, yet. For the Route 2, do the exact opposite of what you do for Route 1. Be a badass. Keep mocking her. When she's angry, say "fuck you bitch". Don't take her anywhere. You'll get a hate fuck scene with her, and prolly you never gonna see her again in the story. :LOL:
Actually, you don't have to be nasty to Allie for the hatefuck. There are two triggers, but I don't know if you need both or just one, and you can be pretty nice to Allie everywhere else (and these two don't even seem like very bad options, either...). At the hospital, when you get the chance to say where you're getting the money from, you lie to her. Then at the WUI, when you can give Allie a lift home, choose instead to stay and have a cup of tea with Kalani.
 

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Actually, you don't have to be nasty to Allie for the hatefuck. There are two triggers, but I don't know if you need both or just one, and you can be pretty nice to Allie everywhere else (and these two don't even seem like very bad options, either...). At the hospital, when you get the chance to say where you're getting the money from, you lie to her. Then at the WUI, when you can give Allie a lift home, choose instead to stay and have a cup of tea with Kalani.
Hehe. I know. But being a dick in AVNs is so fun, isn't it? :KEK:
 

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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
 

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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
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5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other. I think they both realised they were more friends or brother and sister, than in an actual marriage. Would have been completely reasonable to break up and find love again.
 

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5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other. I think they both realised they were more friends or brother and sister, than in an actual marriage. Would have been completely reasonable to break up and find love again.
That is true for the average person im just saying I could do it. Sex not important to me but the relationship and love is. But yeah the moment I realized there was no relationship left anymore or love. I would either of left , or tried to make things work and tough it out if I had fond memories and didn't want to let go because of that.
 

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Finally got to play the update, decided not to wait for the Steam release. What was up with Jasmine's hair color during the conference? It was a weird pink, but then back to normal in the sauna and later scenes. (Sad I couldn't solve the room mix-up by just staying with her though.)

I wonder when things are gonna start colliding. I sorta expected there to be some conflicts at the conference because I've been actively pursuing Jasmine while not being mean or anything to Allie. Avoided being more than friendly but always doing the best choice in anything regarding Lily, so it seems I'm on her path by her reactions. But there was never a point where I got to choose between them there. Plus back home there's Maggie.

As for the expiration date on a grudge discussion, my opinion is that there is no statute of limitations on betrayal. That sorta thing can last a lifetime and change behavior and future relationships. Allie is completely justified.
 

xXwankerXx

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Personally if I was Jake I would of never cheated , I can live with not getting any even maybe being in an unhappy marriage as long as I knew we still loved each other and wanted to be with each deep down.
Lol what ?? Do you hear the contradiction in your wording ??:ROFLMAO::KEK: You can't be in an unhappy, sexless relationship, where the arguing is more frequent than the love and respect part of it and also be in love with your woman or her with you, cuz it's like saying you can be a devout religious person or traditional man during the day and a serial killer or something 'nice' like that during the night. It don't make any sense as an argument, but it makes for a good joke.:ROFLMAO:

Plus, explain this to me... if Allison loved the MC sooo much and really wanted to make the marriage work, seeing how she got all butthurt and emotional about it when he confronted her, why did she not put enough effort to do just that and refused to listen to his problems and have sex with him ?? An attractive woman like that in a sexless relationship or marriage like theirs is a ticking time bomb, bro'. There's no "if" she'll cheat on her man in this example, it's just a big "when" and "how many times". No judging from me. Hell, I'd do the same if I somehow had the stomach to put up with a woman like Allison's bullshit and constant nagging.

5 years to not get any is a really long time. Especially if you still supposedly love each other.
I can't say for sure she let him wait that much without having any sex at all, but if I'm not mistaken, he hints that they barely had any action or not as much as he wanted for a few years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.

for the average person
That right there is the problem... you're too emotional about a fictional example, generalize shit based on how you think relationships work as opposed to how they really do and how other ppl make them work or not, while I also add reality to the equation. If she neglects you, doesn't respect you, doesn't care about your opinions and problems, prioritizes various other stuff over your relationship, she don't love you, man. You roommates with benefits at best, not a married couple, and an attractive woman like Allison will always have way more options than a guy like the MC does, realistically speaking. So no, her staying the loyal, butthurt lil good girl after the divorce is the devs' way of stylishly dodging a nuclear missile filled with all the hatred and 'feedback' you can read in a lot of other non NTR game threads and just that, nothing profound about it. Instead, they focus all their hate on V's bipolar clingy, needy big ass while trying to sell us the lie that she'd make for a good wife, only for a few hours a week lol.

Also, neither the MC, nor Allison are exactly average-looking ppl, even for porn game standards. Sure, they can't brag about their finances or invites to posh parties to socialize with 'good' ppl from high society, but both of them would have it pretty easy on dating apps and dating in general, especially Allison, which is why I say her reactions sometimes are complete nonsensical female bullshit at work.

the moment I realized there was no relationship left anymore or love. I would either of left , or tried to make things work and tough it out if I had fond memories and didn't want to let go because of that.
If you had those fond moments most, if not all of us, would've AND a kid, would you still leave her if she kept ignoring you and treated you as harshly as Allison did the MC prior to their divorce and after it ??:WaitWhat: I somehow don't think so, but I might be wrong on this. I know I wouldn't put up with that, I admit I'd prolly snap and pimp-slap the shit outta her if she dared to threaten to not let me see my kid anymore just cuz she's too stupid, petty and butthurt to move on from a guy she likes to claim a lot not to love or care about anymore.

Sorry, but I'm only human. Love and respect need to be mutual to make things work out smoothly, if they ain't, we don't have a relationship anymore, we should find other ppl to love and move on with, but we can't make that lil kid disappear, so we'd have to at least tolerate each other for his/her sake without throwing spiteful remarks 24/7.
 
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If you had those fond moments most, if not all of us, would've AND a kid, would you still leave her if she kept ignoring you and treated you as harshly as Allison did the MC prior to their divorce and after it ??:WaitWhat: I somehow don't think so, but I might be wrong on this. I know I wouldn't put up with that, I admit I'd prolly snap and pimp-slap the shit outta her if she dared to threaten to not let me see my kid anymore just cuz she's too stupid, petty and butthurt to move on from a guy she likes to claim a lot not to love or care about anymore.

Sorry, but I'm only human. Love and respect need to be mutual to make things work out smoothly, if they ain't, we don't have a relationship anymore, we should find other ppl to love and move on with, but we can't make that lil kid disappear, so we'd have to at least tolerate each other for his/her sake without throwing spiteful remarks 24/7.
Yeez it sometimes feels like people have to explain stuff to you like a 5 year old, yes everyone should still divorce in a not functional relationship even with a kid involved.

Co-parenting works and is fine.

Allison wouldnt treat the MC this harshly after a divorce without the cheating.

You keep using made-up scenarios from your head and i suspect it you who's too emotional about pixels, feels like you had a nagging woman in the past and were too much of a coward to break up and try to justify your cheating like that but what do i know.

Pimp-slapping a women is fitting for you, thats probably why you would end up (rightfully so) with less rights for your child. And it makes you look very simple minded dude, if you really end up in a situation like that at some point and care about your kid you should beat her in the courtroom.

You keep making up dumb examples like "IF YOU WERE WITH THE DEVIL WHO EATS KIDS WOULD YOU STILL BREAK UP WITH HER IF YOURE UNHAPPY? MAYBE SHE WOULD EAT LILY TOO" .... better quickly cheat to avoid that :WaitWhat::WaitWhat:

Dont you see how dumb that is?
 
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Does this also apply to the very many LIs who are being wronged by the various MCs in these renpy porn games? If they feel like the MC isn't giving them what they need, they can just go out and bang someone else?
Yes, actually. Characters in games making decisions without the MCs input are people in their own settings.

I fully support conasquences in story based games.
 

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I'm so disappointed with the first time Jasmine sex scene (which should be like a date, special/romantic for me) . not a fan of that maid cosplay and I prefer to bang her original looks and full nude, she is the only one I want in this game, don't care about the ex-wife and the sex friend of MC though they are attractive but I'm not getting turn on to those women that MC already banged offscreen right from the very start of the story, still prefer relationship build up and first time sex scenario

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Yeah, in my PTs the MC-Jas encounter was physically intense, but not romantic, and especially their strange post-sex chat, at the end of which Jas turfs the MC out of her bed and hotel room. Wasn't sure what to make of it all.
 
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In my opinion, taking into account the sauna discussion with Natalya, she is in denial
Maybe my bias for Jammin color's my impression a bit too much but I would agree with her being in denial. She seems to genuinely have an interest in the MC's class and the work he's doing that she is now helping with, there's is also the shared interest in racing which the MC is only doing for Lilly but it's there. Her being in denial would fit if she's worried about being involved with her teacher who she is working as well and also atm at least a big part of her more personal life with the racing since that's also something she does with her Grandfather. The relationship with her is, emotion wise, a slow burn imo.

TLDR: Jammin will likely be more romantic/emotional later when she is more comfortable. And in my totally unbiased opinion she is worth the wait. Jasmine is love, Jasmine is life! :love:
 
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