VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.02 Steam] [Underground Studio]

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Dessolos

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Jericho85 said:
If one defines "Porn" by ignoring the conventional definition of pornography and saying that it's simply a matter of how good you subjectively feel the "main theme" of the story is, then I can't agree with that .... That's an opinion-based argument not a fact-based one, and it's not convincing in the slightest.

The fact is that Race of Life undeniably meets the definition of pornographic media because it includes depiction of explicit sex acts for the express purpose of causing sexual arousal. It includes lots of it, in fact. And unless someone can tell me that there is another reason for showing a close-up shot of Jake's dick punching Natalya's cervix, then I'm going to say it's quite accurate to say the scene was expressly designed to ellicit sexual arousal. That's not based on my made-up definition, that's a standard definition consistent with many sources (
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So if a certain someone is going to jump on someone else for calling it a porn game and declare "your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong", I think they should at least try to support that with a standard, widely accepted definition of "Pornography" instead of using their own completely subjective personal definition as a source of truth...

Personally, I'd say it's far more accurate to say that yes, Race of Life absolutely is a Porn Game or a "Porn VN" but it's a story-driven one. If you took away all the porn scenes and replaced them with completely PG interactions, then I think Race of Life could still hold up quite well as a story... if perhaps distinctly less fun for degenerates like me. But the very inclusion of those highly explicit sex scenes like the close-up shots of Natalya's afformentioned doinking is what qualifies Race of Life as a porn game because those scenes wouldn't be there except for sexual entertainment purposes. Race of Life simply raises the bar of story-driven porn games, but that doesn't make it stop being porn.

Also, I don't believe that having a good story and being pornographic are in any way mutually exclusive... unless of course, one is fallaciously trying to convince themselves that their favorite game isn't porn because they "don't play porn games". Porn can absolutely have fantastic storytelling, which is a niche that AVNs fill spectacularly. Honestly its the marriage of porn and storytelling why I love AVNs so much. It's porn media that involves stories and characters that I can give a shit about which makes the porn even hotter.
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im not saying you are wrong when going by textbook definition. But what I was trying to say is when you don't go by textbook definition of porn which I believe is something others on this site do as well it's hard to consider this a porn game. Which is why from time to time you might see someone calling X is not a porn game even if factually it can be considered one . So yeah factually you might be correct ( didn't bother to read the actual definition.) Yeah it's subjective and opinionated no denying that but when there is more of a story and romance focus than getting to the porn it does not come across as one to some of us.

Which is exactly why I don't consider this a porn game but I do see this game more of a middle ground. As there are certain situations like the parking alot sex scene that comes across as a scene that is there more for the porn as it had no romance or anything , it just kind of happens. But this game isn't full of scenes like that either as it isn't the focus or purpose of the game. Also the fact there is extra scenes which is there for the porn makes me clasify this as something in between porn and not.

Yeah I know it isn't anything more than my opinion but you will never change my mind about me saying this isn't a porn game no matter what . I really don't care if im wrong by the actual textbook definition It's just how I feel. Just cause it's the actual definition does not mean we have to agree with every definition out there 100% of the time. Now be a different story if I was saying I was factually right cause there be no arguing how wrong I am if I was saying that.
 
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Maviarab said:
When it comes to film classifactions etc, no subjectivity..it's a regulated body and they are not classed as porn. Argue that all you like with the BBFC and AFI etc etc...won't change anything lol. Last I recall, they do not show 'porn' in mainstream cinema's ;)
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Yet I tried to find the rating for all of those films and all I could find lots of talk about "uncut" and "unrated" versions which leads me to believe that those films had to be edited in someway for a screenings in mainstream theaters, and I can probably guess which scenes they cut. If there are "edited" and "uncut" versions then I think it's safe to assume that at least someone considered those scenes to be pornographic.

Would you say that Kris sucking Jake's cock while Alexa sucks his balls is not pornographic? Or the double BJ scene with Natalya and Jasmine after which Jake plasters both their faces? What was the purpose of those scenes to you?
 
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Dessolos said:
im not saying you are wrong when going by textbook definition. But what I was trying to say is when you don't go by textbook definition of porn which I believe is something others on this site do as well it's hard to consider this a porn game. Which is why from time to time you might see someone calling X is not a porn game even if factually it can be considered one . So yeah factually you might be correct ( didn't bother to read the actual definition.) Yeah it's subjective and opinionated no denying that but when there is more of a story and romance focus than getting to the porn it does not come across as one to some of us.

Which is exactly why I don't consider this a porn game but I do see this game more of a middle ground. As there are certain situations like the parking alot sex scene that comes across as a scene that is there more for the porn as it had no romance or anything , it just kind of happens. But this game isn't full of scenes like that either as it isn't the focus or purpose of the game. Also the fact there is extra scenes which is there for the porn makes me clasify this as something in between porn and not.

Yeah I know it isn't anything more than my opinion but you will never change my mind about me saying this isn't a porn game no matter what . I really don't care if im wrong by the actual textbook definition It's just how I feel. Just cause it's the actual definition does not mean we have to agree with every definition out there 100% of the time. Now be a different story if I was saying I was factually right cause there be no arguing how wrong I am if I was saying that.
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It's your personal view that it's not a porn game and I can totally respect that. I also don't see you telling people off who call it a porn game. I respect that too.

This is the kind of comment I don't respect:

your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong, so I'm not even gonna reply to the rest.
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jadepaladin said:
Never thought I'd say this but I miss the waifu wars. Where are the Allison vs Jasmine vs Veronica debates?
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We just need someone to make an argumentative "polemic" statement about one of those waifu's and I bet the debate will cycle and restart again :p. I'm usually out of those wars, they are pointless for me to waste energy to try to find good arguments about it but if people keep civil they are enjoyable to read *getting my popcorn* :LOL:.
 
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MiltonPowers said:
They used to. But it's a good thing they stopped. Sitting in a theatre with a whole bunch of people fapping. No thank you.
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wouldn't want to step foot in that theater without a black light must be hell for the janitors or whoever does the cleaning.
 
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MiltonPowers said:
They used to. But it's a good thing they stopped. Sitting in a theatre with a whole bunch of people fapping. No thank you.
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even over here I wouldn;t have classed them as 'mainstream' cinemas....dingy backstreet theatres yeah but not the same cinema they showed Star Wars on lol.
 
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Maviarab said:
even over here I wouldn;t have classed them as 'mainstream' cinemas....dingy backstreet theatres yeah but not the same cinema they showed Star Wars on lol.
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Didn't Deep Throat premiere at some of the biggest theatres in the US, like New York and LA (as well as the backstreet adult ones)?

Or have I been misled for many years?
 
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Didn't Deep Throat premiere at some of the biggest theatres in the US, like New York and LA (as well as the backstreet adult ones)?

Or have I been misled for many years?
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Before my porn watching days I'm afraid, couldn't tell you what happened over in the States. I'm not quite that old lmao.
 
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Steuan said:
Tiana is indeed a side-girl, but I don't think the same for Patricia and Kalani. Especially for Kalani. She'll has screen time as much as the other main girls like Natalya or Maggie... and for Patricia... If she's a FBI agent or something her path will be big like Kris's! :lepew:
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I'm pretty sure she's a side girl, but I would fucking love if Patricia's role gets expanded and she turns into a breakout character! I know the undercover agent Patricial theory might be a bit of a stretch but I'm sticking to it :ROFLMAO:

Either way, she's fucking fine and I want to see Jake fuck her so hard that she forgets her name (which if she's actually as stupid as she acts, wouldn't be too hard to do)
 
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Jericho85 said:
I'm pretty sure she's a side girl, but I would fucking love if Patricia's role gets expanded and she turns into a breakout character! I know the undercover agent Patricial theory might be a bit of a stretch but I'm sticking to it :ROFLMAO:

Either way, she's fucking fine and I want to see Jake fuck her so hard that she forgets her name (which if she's actually as stupid as she acts, wouldn't be too hard to do)
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Dessolos said:
imagine if it isn't an act while I heavily dislike June and can't stand her and also don't like threesomes. A threesome with both of the dum dum's June and Patricia would be to funny to pass up on.
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Like, that would be like, so crazy, yeah?!? Like wow, your cock is really big! Like, are you seeing this?!? I wonder, like, how would it like taste?

I can't, I give up. Just gag her and fuck Pat and make June watch.
 
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