Nah I don't trust this. This money is going to come back and bite me.
That's be beauty of having to surmise. We don't know what her motivations are as we don't get to see her thoughts. And I'm glad I don't have that power in this game. I'm not a huge fan of games where the MC has some magical ESP and can "hear" exactly what other characters are thinking of. It leaves room for me to interpret what I read.
For me, I have my past experiences, personality, emotions, life events, and reactions to the world. Everyone else looks at the same scenario and sees something slightly or completely different. Especially as it's not clearly stated what's going on so we go with what we know. It's a very common perception thing, and why written word is so very often misunderstood.
Wow, talk about putting everyone into the same basic perception/understanding you have. Please read my above post. You're taking this way too personally for her motive which is NOT stated in black and white.
She asked for clarification long before the accident, and several other times. It's not the lynchpin catalyst you are making it out to be. I've decline her at that time, and she doesn't storm off and leave. For whatever reason, that we are not made privy to, she feels that's a good time to bring it up. She doesn't officially put things on "take a break" and leave town until you decline going on the hike with her.
But like I said in the above quote, you are reading between the lines and interpreting it one way, and I'm doing the same and coming to a slightly different conclusion. Every other person playing will get something slightly different out of it as well.
She gives no indication that she has malicious motives in what she said, and assuming motives often leads to more false assumptions than correct. That's why the written word is so often badly misinterpreted and arguments ensue.
jadepaladin
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I was thinking that Coop borrowed the money from Toby somehow and Toby will want to collect later.
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My paranoia is sky high with the racing stuff, already had the moron who thinks he's british apparently try set up the MC, possibly wreck his car and or kill/hurt him in the process. Doesn't help Jasmine is now MC's "lucky charm" for races and will likely be in the car for all races going forward, meaning danger to her if shit get's out of control.
Big money + baby dick gangsters = whole lot of bullshit to survive.
What about when Coop and his wife (blanking on her name) are together is it better or worse?
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He's definitely more obnoxious than I'd like him to be. It's too much crude humor for me, which I don't find funny typically. I appreciate when he gets serious.
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I don't even hate her, I just think the way she's written is she is self-absorbed.
She was in a casual workplace fling for 6 months, wants her man to commit. His daughter has an accident and instead of supporting him, she complains he isn't spending more time with her. If you choose to run her path, you each profess your love to each other, go to the ball, go hiking and she attends the conference, where she proceeds to flash a lifeguard because that's what people in love do, flash strangers.
If you aren't on her path, she complains about not getting time with you. She confronts you in your office about taking someone who has hands-on experience with the project or the ex-wife with connections to the ball, when her contribution to the project boils down to spellcheck. Then abandons the project, with little effect, to go see her sister.
Dessolos
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for me I only found him annoying at the start of the game but after the classroom texting scene I started to find him funny and not so annoying. However I tend to perfer his type of humor probably cause I grew up watching alot of south park and stupid party movies.
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Not just you, he sucks. I feel like if I ever was forced to spend time with a "friend" like that in real life, I'd never stop punching them.
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I have a ton of respect for Cooper after he helped his friend whose daughter was in a coma. The thing is... he can be annoying with his behavior, have an unpleasant sense of humor, but actions are much more important than words or little things like his typical frat-bro behavior. So Cooper is my second "Best Friend Among AVNs" after Liam from Acting Lessons.
As for humor, to each his own, for me he's damn funny.
THAT! Thank's for saving my time, will fully avoid V's route.
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You miss the Jas+Nat sauna scene variation if you are not in a romantic path with Jasmine (see posts above, you need not to see the sex scene with Jasmine after the race in the end of version 3.1). The following two scenes are Veronica scene with 2 variations, one if you are faithful to her in the scene before getting a romantic scene with V (if you didn't went to the sauna and got the scene with Jas+Nat or if you stay in the bar for more drinks leading to the scene with Vanessa that works in the hotel, that is actually the scene in the gallery after the solo one with Jasmine), and if you cheated on V you get a more fired up sex scene with V. The last two I didn't reach it yet so someone else can help you, but I guess one of them is with Maggie(?) for what I read before in the thread.
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This. Absolutely this. Also, on routes you aren't going to commit to her and you hurt her feelings on the hike, she waits, hiking all the way back down, driving home, before texting to say she's going to her sister's in Canada to think about things and not to contact her. It's not even a full break up, it's putting things on hold and she had to do it via text, she couldn't do it to his face. If I could have left her on that cliff, I would have.
Getting into a spat with Jasmine in the lab was so unprofessional and tacky that I was ready to dump her right there. After she helped him get his grant money, her usefulness to the project dries up. It makes way more sense to bring Allison, Jasmine, or even Nat to the ball/conference, Veronica is literally just an English professor with repressed kinks.
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Uhm how does Veronica behaving shitty correlates to you taking choices to the MC behaving "shitty"? I dont really get your line of thought. But maybe it helps him to decompress or something when you play him like that, i dunno.
Are you arguing: the mc is/can be an asshole so his LI should be an asshole too?
Veronica knows about what happened about 40h afterwards, really soon.
Come on, i was obviously exaggerating a bit and its obviously very unlikely that she acted out of malice, she was emotional and hurt and thats why she acted like that.
The thing is, it doesnt really matter, she still did it.
She should be empathetic enough to be aware that her feelings and cravings come second in this situation, unconditional help is required and not pushy expectations in a situation like that. No matter the reason for these expectations, it can wait a few weeks in a time like that. They had a fuckbuddy relationship for 6 months already, a few weeks more or less doesnt matter.
Shes a mature fucking college professor, she should have the brains to be able to realise that, shes not a over-emotional girl being the first time in love unable to think straight.
Look you guys can think whatever you want. Veronica is great and not shitty, but people don't like her or make her into something she is not. Its ok to not like a character, but to make assumptions and make her out to be what she isn't.Uhm how does Veronica behaving shitty correlates to you taking choices to the MC behaving "shitty"? I dont really get your line of thought. But maybe it helps him to decompress or something when you play him like that, i dunno.
Are you arguing: the mc is/can be an asshole so his LI should be an asshole too?
Veronica knows about what happened about 40h afterwards, really soon.
Also by that logic, the only love interest should be Allison. Can get with Nat, can't get eirh Jasmine your student, shouldn't date your neighbor, so on for side girls, cause its selfish with daughte in a coma. So if we are going that route MC getting with others girls shouldn't happen.
Now look I am doen trying to prove a point when ignorant people like you and others already have bad ideas of her and try ot make her out to be something she is not. So have a good one, cause you guys aren't worth it.
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I don't you or someone against her are wrong in their assumption it's just a case of different point of views.
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Well... I won't say that Cooper is downright annoying, but he is awkward... to tell the truth, each of us has a friend who loves to make shitty jokes and annoys us with his awkward situations that pulls us out of a dull life...
in many avn you can rarely meet a funny guy who even cheers up the players with his stupid jokes
I'm just tired that in every avn our friend is gay or he just disappears from the game after a couple of updates, or out of envy he will become against Mc
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Hehe I can't argue much with your logic but well V is still human and a latina hahaha blood boils easily and even after the fired up sex scene with her in the conference hotel while she talks with the MC she explains that Chilean women are very jealous and that her sister is even worse than her lol (I know because I'm a latin guy from Portugal with near 50 yo and I still sometimes lose it
, and I'm usually a very calm and cool person overall). Not excusing her, just stating the fact that humans aren't perfect and emotions like jealousy sometimes win over our regular personality.Its fine to have different points, I just feel like people are trying to state facts instead of opinions, I might be a little guilty in that aspect too.