VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.04.5] [Underground Studio]

[Krytax123]

Look you guys can think whatever you want. Veronica is great and not shitty, but people don't like her or make her into something she is not. Its ok to not like a character, but to make assumptions and make her out to be what she isn't.

Also by that logic, the only love interest should be Allison. Can get with Nat, can't get eirh Jasmine your student, shouldn't date your neighbor, so on for side girls, cause its selfish with daughte in a coma. So if we are going that route MC getting with others girls shouldn't happen.

Now look I am doen trying to prove a point when ignorant people like you and others already have bad ideas of her and try ot make her out to be something she is not. So have a good one, cause you guys aren't worth it.

I mean at least we bring some arguments while youre all "Veronica is great, nanananana lalalalala im not listening lalalala" lmao

And i dont consider distraction in a stressfull time like that as really shitty behavior (if he is single), he cant worry for lily 24/7, it would only make his condition worse. You seem to not get the point and even less proving anything.

You just keep saying how ignorant we are because you dont like what were saying without contributing anything relating to the discussion but trying to derail it with unrelated stuff like jake being able to be an asshole.

And you seem to be very pissed and defensive about it, maybe you need to relax and calm down, i dunno.

If you dont enjoy heated discussions, dont participate, nobody is forcing you.

But yeah i agree that allison should be the real canon route

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

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Excuse me but where's the graphic violence tag ? This is straight murder at this point

 

[Krytax123]

I don't disagree it was handled poorly. But have you seen the way some people in love act, even those that seem well put together or smart? Completely irrational at times. I know over the many years I've been alive I've done (and heard of) some really stupid/crazy things for infatuation/love. Looking back on it, some of it I do regret, some things I laugh like crazy, and others are just embarrassing. None of it was maliciously intended, and I don't get the impression V is doing it maliciously. Sure some people have done some really vindictive or malicious things, but you can usually see it as it's hard to hide when it's that malicious.

In V's mind it makes sense at the time. I can't defend it, just saying I don't think it was maliciously intended. I personally think she has some really cool story to her, if you can overlook the one lapse. It's not like she slept with someone else to try and make MC jealous.

Well i said her behavior in this aspect was shitty, not unrealistic. In fact it makes her even more realistic just unfortunealy in a very unlikeable way

She puts herself and her desires first which is very common between humans, its just that i would never want to enter a serious relationship with a woman like that if she cant handle her emotions enough to show unconditonal support to her partner in the biggest tragic crisis of his life.

 

[byaaahh]

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Holy shit, is this on the Veronica route?

If so, it sums up why people aren't feeling V.

 

[Krytax123]

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At some points i felt like the devs looked at our discussions here and used our arguments and trashtalking of LI's as inspiration for the whole sauna dialogues from Natalya and Jasmine

 

[Dessolos]

Honestly im thinking playing V's path when it's on steam just to see any arguments between her and Jas in the convention. Still hate V tho

 

[pitao]

This is why I usually don't enter into, how does people on this site call it? "Waifu wars" on what LI is better and that X or Y is bad etc etc because yeah I also have favorite ones but I usually try to understand and put myself into the shoes of the ones I don't like so much as my favorites. Unless they do very very despicable and inexcusable things, most the things people point out in this "wars" are irrelevant for me and they are just things humans do often without malice like cooldevo pointed out.
This also makes me enjoy much more all the paths and content this games make available hehe. But yeah this discussions are usually what make this threads alive I guess, just try to not get it personal, that is way less fun.

 

[byaaahh]

At some points i felt like the devs looked at our discussions here and used our arguments and trashtalking of LI's as inspiration for the whole sauna dialogues from Natalya and Jasmine

I think Natalya is just being ignorant

 

[cooldevo]

Well i said her behavior in this aspect was shitty, not unrealistic. In fact it makes her even more realistic just unfortunealy in a very unlikeable way

She puts herself and her desires first which is very common between humans, its just that i would never want to enter a serious relationship with a woman like that if she cant handle her emotions enough to show unconditonal support to her partner in the biggest tragic crisis of his life.

I concur. The only thing we don't know is "why" it comes up again at that moment. We can just guess. And it's hard to judge anyone in the story, as we are looking on as casual observers with no vested emotions for Lily. Had it been my own daughter? I'd be reacting very different than the MC. Very different. But that's me and how I react to traumatic events. Having been in the military and seen people/friends die, I'd probably handle it very differently than someone who wasn't.

Does she see it as the best way to support the guy she wants to get serious with? Possibly. Is she trying to use the event to manipulate a relationship? Entirely possible. Once you start down her path, she really shows no manipulative tendencies though, so it'd be quite out of character.

She does have a possessive streak in her on her solo path, but she is also extremely devoted to the MC. She is very willing to experiment and play, like when going to Yoga. I can live with a little possessiveness if she's going to give me a remote control for a vibrator, any day of the week.

 

[Krytax123]

Hehe I can't argue much with your logic but well V is still human and a latina hahaha blood boils easily and even after the fired up sex scene with her in the conference hotel while she talks with the MC she explains that Chilean women are very jealous and that her sister is even worse than her lol (I know because I'm a latin guy from Portugal with near 50 yo and I still sometimes lose it , and I'm usually a very calm and cool person overall). Not excusing her, just stating the fact that humans aren't perfect and emotions like jealousy sometimes win over our regular personality.

Lmao not gonna lie i usually even have a thing for slightly(!) irrational/over-emotional latina's, theres so much passion in these bags of crazy

And i even think jealousy can be attractive/sexy its just specifically V who isnt working for me. And i could forgive/accept her behavior if the MC's crisis would a little bit smaller or literally anything else than his little girl being in a coma. He's a father of a little girl whos badly hurt, she should be able to understand and even support him only focusing 100% on Lily, it should make him more attractive to her (like it does to Kalani for example).

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

Holy shit, is this on the Veronica route?

If so it sums up why people aren't feeling V.

yes. kind of. you have to both be on Veronica route and get a sauna threesome

 

[byaaahh]

She does have a possessive streak in her on her solo path, but she is also extremely devoted to the MC. She is very willing to experiment and play, like when going to Yoga. I can live with a little possessiveness if she's going to give me a remote control for a vibrator, any day of the week.

I'm sure we all remember a certain redhead nurse with possessive tendencies.

Let's hope we steer clear of that, this story is tragic enough.

 

[pitao]

Holy shit, is this on the Veronica route?

If so, it sums up why people aren't feeling V.

yes. kind of. you have to both be on Veronica route and get a sauna threesome

Hmmm I guess I should have tried also the sauna on my V cheating path hehe I went for the scene with Vanessa. *slap myself* should have seen both options, pitao you are missing content .

 

[MagicMan753]

Hmmm I guess I should have tried also the sauna on my V cheating path hehe I went for the scene with Vanessa. *slap myself* should have seen both options, pitao you are missing content .

I wouldn't even call it cheating path necessarily, it may start that way, but I feel it will form into a slight cuckquean path. How far it goes remains to be seen.

 

[pitao]

I wouldn't even call it cheating path necessarily, it may start that way, but I feel it will form into a slight cuckquean path. How far it goes remains to be seen.

I said it like that because I ran two different paths with Veronica, one where I'm faithful to her and one that when I get a chance I cheat on her, in this one I did the Kris/Alexa and Vanessa scene so far. Dunno it seemed relevant before and this update with both variations on V scene gave me reason.

 

[illya11]

Guys is there anything with Kalani yet like the mod eluded to or is it only the nudes sent by the nurse?

 

[byaaahh]

Guys is there anything with Kalani yet like the mod eluded to or is it only the nudes sent by the nurse?

I did get the option to kiss her, but I don't remember the trigger.

 

[Krytax123]

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Its kinda surprising for me that Natalya (and Jasmime?) badmouth Veronica in the sauna as they are behaving like the entire opposite on the Allison path even when youre on the jasmine and natalya routes on the same time.

They are all like "allison is so cool and she still wants you bad and we understand that your relationship is complicated and you dont know where you stand with her so you just fuck us in the meantime, thats super cool and no biggie at all. Lets just fuck until you guys get back together." which was slightly surprising to me esp from Jasmine lol

I would have suspected them behaving similar towards V but seems like they did not. Curious.

I concur. The only thing we don't know is "why" it comes up again at that moment. We can just guess. And it's hard to judge anyone in the story, as we are looking on as casual observers with no vested emotions for Lily. Had it been my own daughter? I'd be reacting very different than the MC. Very different. But that's me and how I react to traumatic events. Having been in the military and seen people/friends die, I'd probably handle it very differently than someone who wasn't.

Does she see it as the best way to support the guy she wants to get serious with? Possibly. Is she trying to use the event to manipulate a relationship? Entirely possible. Once you start down her path, she really shows no manipulative tendencies though, so it'd be quite out of character.

She does have a possessive streak in her on her solo path, but she is also extremely devoted to the MC. She is very willing to experiment and play, like when going to Yoga. I can live with a little possessiveness if she's going to give me a remote control for a vibrator, any day of the week.

I dunno, Lily caught me despite her little screentime, my MC will always be 100% lily first. If there would be a decision save lily and dont get any lewds at all or dont save lily and get lewds, i would take the former lol

And as i said, im 99% sure she isnt manipulative (at least not conscious) but she isnt able to handle her emotions and acts irrational and shitty at the worst time possible. Its like the opposite of Cooper who always is annoying but turns suddenly serious and competent when it matters the most.

 

[motseer]

The only thing wrong with the MC/Veronica relationship is that MC doesn't really deserve her... When It comes to women he's 35 goin' on 13...

 

[Maviarab]

The only thing wrong with the MC/Veronica relationship is that MC doesn't really deserve her... When It comes to women he's 35 goin' on 13...

My biggest issue with the whole VN (other than why you'd take random people to a conferance..but that aside)....I hate Cooper...had friends like him when I was 15....the problem is...the MC is just like him too in reality so kinda hard to identify with a dumb immature man-child who never grew up. There's a reason i stopped (for the most part) playing VN's with idiot 18yo MC's in college.

I've always defended the cheating (well, not defended but tried to explain why he did it)...but the bottom line is generally...the MC isn't a terribly likeable character, even when you try to make him one. My issues with illegal street racing and the MC thinking it would be a great idea to raise the hundreds of thousands he needed...is a whole other debate....I'll not even get into evil angry ex (or whatever he was...can't remember) trying to murder our child sub plot...