VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.04.5] [Underground Studio]

[Dessolos]

My problem with Veronica is her pressuring MC to put more into their relationship, right after his daughter is put into a coma...

I mean, is that really the time to drop an ultimatum?

this right here. I feel not enough time has even past for her to bring it up again especially after what happens to the daughter. That is when i went from she is okay to okay I don't like this LI at all.

 

[maxthruster]

She brings no friction or drama to the table.

Lol.

You're missing the point. Any good story-driven or choices-matter game have decent amount of sub plotlines where making specific decisions or picking specific characters rewards you with substories, different scenes (outside of fucking), slight tweaks to conversations, etc.

Kinda like how going for Quinn gets you to mingle downtown and meet with dealers, going for Jill gets you to meet her friends and thus introduces new characters you'd just glance off otherwise, etc. None of these ultimately change the main plot but they give you something more than just swapping characters at an event.

Saying this as though you don't get these kinds of exclusive scenes or different dialogues in Race Of Life implies to me that you really haven't played the game very much. There's tons of variation depending on your choices and who you're fucking.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

Lol.

Still waiting for something beyond "but she pressured him to get in a relationship ".

There's tons of variation depending on your choices and who you're fucking.

Lol.

Tons of variation in the form of 3 sorry ass angles for the sex scenes. Good shit.

 

[byaaahh]

Still waiting for something beyond "but she pressured him to get in a relationship ".

MC: "My daughter was ran over and is laying comatose in the hospital..."
V: "OK, but if you don't focus on me and our relationship, we're done!"

Any self-respecting man and father would tell her to get fucked.

 

[maxthruster]

Still waiting for something beyond "but she pressured him to get in a relationship ".

I'll link you to this part of the thread from a while back where I and several others discussed V's ups and downs. You can see all my opinions on her through that conversation. There's too much for me to really be interested in reiterating to you, but the tl;dr is that she's clingy, overly jealous of any attention from other women, unwilling to respect Jake's boundaries and not even particularly relevant to the story. That's the basics of my criticisms of her, but again if you want more in depth discussion you can find it through that link.

Lol.

Tons of variation in the form of 3 sorry ass angles for the sex scenes. Good shit.

I'm not even going to bother responding this one because it's so blatantly stupid to go "ugh there's no variation based on which girl you choose" and when its pointed out that there is, they all have their own routes and scenes and effects on the main narrative - the conference alone, my God - to respond with "yeah camera angles." Like, what?

 

[glaslow]

My problem with Veronica is her pressuring MC to put more into their relationship, right after his daughter is put into a coma...

I mean, is that really the time to drop an ultimatum?

Yes this is what makes me hate her the most. She is like a ticking time bomb of jealousy and selfishness.

 

[King Cule]

I would like to suggest that the developer create a vote about whether to remove the tattoos from Jasmin’s body or not, because honestly I think the tattoos hide her enchanting beauty.

 

[Dessolos]

I would like to suggest that the developer create a vote about whether to remove the tattoos from Jasmin’s body or not, because honestly I think the tattoos hide her enchanting beauty.

Hard disagree for 2 reasons. One okay is personal preference but I think the tattoo's actually work for her to me she would look a bit weird without them especially after seeing her personality / character.

#2 the game has 1 Act completed already. You are basically telling the dev to redo every Jasmine Render because it would be weird , and random if all of sudden she had no tattoo's after she had them for the first Act of the game. It would kind of feel like something is off about the AVN / it lost some quality if that happened. That would probably me enough for me to consider it dropping it and stop giving a shit about the AVN cause it would be such a weird change that makes no sense at all. You either stick with something or change it early on imo

 

[King Cule]

Hard disagree for 2 reasons. One okay is personal preference but I think the tattoo's actually work for her to me she would look a bit weird without them especially after seeing her personality / character.

#2 the game has 1 Act completed already. You are basically telling the dev to redo every Jasmine Render because it would be weird , and random if all of sudden she had no tattoo's after she had them for the first Act of the game. It would kind of feel like something is off about the AVN / it lost some quality if that happened. That would probably me enough for me to consider it dropping it and stop giving a shit about the AVN cause it would be such a weird change that makes no sense at all. You either stick with something or change it early on imo

I find her unattractive in those tattoos and turned me off imb

 

[FullyAnimated]

I find her unattractive in those tattoos and turned me off imb

She's still attractive but for me they do detract from her natural beauty. From my perspective the female form is a work of art unto itself. So tattoos are much like graffiti splattered over a Mona Lisa.

Others find tattoos attractive.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Nulldev]

She's still attractive but for me they do detract from her natural beauty. From my perspective the female form is a work of art unto itself. So tattoos are much like graffiti splattered over a Mona Lisa.

Others find tattoos attractive.

Different strokes for different folks.

Hear, hear!

 

[Joratox]

I would like to suggest that the developer create a vote about whether to remove the tattoos from Jasmin’s body or not, because honestly I think the tattoos hide her enchanting beauty.

I find her unattractive in those tattoos and turned me off imb

Still, suggesting a removal of those tattoos after such a big chunk of story is already done and released even on steam as a stand alone game...kinda pointless.
It's like me coming here and asking the dev to remove Veronica because I don't like her. As I said...pointless.

There's plenty of LIs to choose from if tattoos are not your thing.

 

[King Cule]

Still, suggesting a removal of those tattoos after such a big chunk of story is already done and released even on steam as a stand alone game...kinda pointless.
It's like me coming here and asking the dev to remove Veronica because I don't like her. As I said...pointless.

There's plenty of LIs to choose from if tattoos are not your thing.

Right
I just imagine her without tattoos she'll be more beautiful than before.

 

[Krytax123]

MC: "My daughter was ran over and is laying comatose in the hospital..."
V: "OK, but if you don't focus on me and our relationship, we're done!"

Any self-respecting man and father would tell her to get fucked.

I mean its even worse when the MC doesnt even considers himself to be in a relationship (and its possible to be upfront about this) and she still behaves like that.

On a allison-path and when you go to the hike with Veronica, i can understand veronica's reaction and the "breakup" and it feels realistic, honest and even mature from both Veronica and Jack.

Veronica asks the MC directly if he's rekindling with Allison and the player is able to respond something along the lines of "if i get the chance to get my family back together, i have to and will take it" which makes Veronica's reaction (backing off and "breaking up") very understandable imo. I suspect this is the scene the whole veronica fucking off to canada thing was designed around and is narratively fitting.

But on a non-allison path or even a allison-path where you dont tell her that stuff/dont go to the lake, veronica's reaction looks suddenly more like that of a 1000% crazy woman and entirely unreasonable with no understanding for the shitty situation the MC finds himself in.

So yeah, even as probably the biggest v hater here, imo the branching kinda makes her look THIS bad in this case

 

[Lathe29]

I would like to suggest that the developer create a vote about whether to remove the tattoos from Jasmin’s body or not, because honestly I think the tattoos hide her enchanting beauty.

Cool. No one cares.

Hope she gets more.

 

[El_Magnifico]

I would like to suggest that the developer create a vote about whether to remove the tattoos from Jasmin’s body or not, because honestly I think the tattoos hide her enchanting beauty.

Please don't. There was already votes for the main character's pilosity. Don't give them funny ideas like that.

 

[Hengat]

I mean its even worse when the MC doesnt even considers himself to be in a relationship (and its possible to be upfront about this) and she still behaves like that.

On a allison-path and when you go to the hike with Veronica, i can understand veronica's reaction and the "breakup" and it feels realistic, honest and even mature from both Veronica and Jack.

Veronica asks the MC directly if he's rekindling with Allison and the player is able to respond something along the lines of "if i get the chance to get my family back together, i have to and will take it" which makes Veronica's reaction (backing off and "breaking up") very understandable imo. I suspect this is the scene the whole veronica fucking off to canada thing was designed around and is narratively fitting.

But on a non-allison path or even a allison-path where you dont tell her that stuff/dont go to the lake, veronica's reaction looks suddenly more like that of a 1000% crazy woman and entirely unreasonable with no understanding for the shitty situation the MC finds himself in.

So yeah, even as probably the biggest v hater here, imo the branching kinda makes her look THIS bad in this case

I'm a hater of "established" love interests at the start of the game (like most of the people here I guess) but I'm also Veronica fan. I blame the devs and their writing because in her case she's only a FWB that just wants something more and I think they fumbled at making her likeable at the same level as some of the others. I enjoy her route where you can see she's clingy but still a bit of mature and kinky romantic. Her jealous banter with Jasmine is also fun to some extent where that redhead is pushing her buttons.

But out of her route? She's batshit crazy. They had to remove her from the picture with that Canada trip because she's too clingy to MC and not enough integral to racing, battery invention or daughter's coma. She practically doesn't exist in the story outside her relationship with MC which I think is just bad writing.

 

[Idontplay]

Even if I totally agree about the fact that the tattoos ruin a woman's beauty, I am absolutely against the idea to remove Jasmine's tattoos, not only because it is a pointless idea, but also because those tattoos are functional to the definition of her personality. In fact she is an impulsive, impetuous, uncontrollable young woman, who loves play with fire, or rather there isn't nothing able to turn her on more than that. She loves tease Veronica, which is a Professor in her university, she loves tease (and seduce) the mc, which is her teacher, she loves the illegal races, without caring about the consequences of that. Her attitude is very similar to the "sex, drug and rock'n'roll" lifestyle of Lita Ford (maybe for Jasmine is more "sex, gasoline and rock'n'roll") and other rockstars. So make Jasmine in someway similar to those rockstars (who are very often heavily tattoed), means state in an unquestionable way, who she is. You see her and immediately remember the song "I love play with fire" of the Runaways, then you start to play the game and you see you were absolutely right about that.

 

[Idontplay]

I'm a hater of "established" love interests at the start of the game (like most of the people here I guess) but I'm also Veronica fan. I blame the devs and their writing because in her case she's only a FWB that just wants something more and I think they fumbled at making her likeable at the same level as some of the others. I enjoy her route where you can see she's clingy but still a bit of mature and kinky romantic. Her jealous banter with Jasmine is also fun to some extent where that redhead is pushing her buttons.

But out of her route? She's batshit crazy. They had to remove her from the picture with that Canada trip because she's too clingy to MC and not enough integral to racing, battery invention or daughter's coma. She practically doesn't exist in the story outside her relationship with MC which I think is just bad writing.

In my opinion it is the opposite: she is one of the best written character, even if she isn't (at least for now) really integrated in the main plot, one (maybe the only one) who isn't a simple trope and this is why almost everyone (almost?) hates her: with her behaviour she is so believable to seem a real person, not a female character of a porn game.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Besides, let's imagine the dev decide to create a vote and that the majority goes against the tattoos ( 100 % improbable but let's imagine ). What's next ? What's the endgame ?

Should the developpers rework the previous episodes and remplace the 4k+ renders and 30-40 animations wherein Jasmine is featured with new renders/animations with a pure skin Jasmine ? Because it's going to take a while

Or should we get a scene in the next episode with Jasmine announcing completely out of nowhere that she went through a couple of very advanced laser operations who miraculously didn't leave a single mark on her body ? Why not also removing her piercings by the way ? We should also get a vote for that.

In all cases, it's a complete waste of time.