VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Ep. 3.2 Extra Fix3] [Underground Studio]

[anonnyscouse]

Defending the extra/bonus scenes is crazy. It literally takes precious development time away from an already 6-8months/update.

It's like watching a show, but wanting to see spin-offs as well. But it also slows down how fast the next seasons of the show becomes available to the viewers.

If you need to take a break from the "main body of work" to add "a little variety", the main plot is losing your interest. Plain and simple.

"Patrons paid and voted for it" doesn't necessarily mean they wanted it. It was just because it's already a benefit for the tier, they didn't have a say on it. I also am one of the patrons who voted for the next scene, but would rather have that development time focused on the main game instead. I don't have a say on it, because the dev clearly wants to have those extra/bonus scenes. Which is non-canon, might I add.

Don't get me wrong, I like the extra scenes. It just is frustrating that it also slows down the main game.

These people who defends this also have said that another developer should stop developing two games and instead focus on one game.

Crazy.

Classygoat also does extra scenes as well though. I'd prefer a week or two's development to go on extra scenes than to go on 2 or 3 pointless minigames to be honest.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Well, the animations for the extra scene literally took one week to pose and render. Now I’m working on static renders while beta-team tests the main game. I don’t see that huge waste of time some of you guys imply.

Yep, but the things is, pirates here are dying to teach you how you should handle your business

 

[SerHawkes]

Yep, but the things is, pirates here are dying to teach you how you should handle your business

I think they more want to snu snu Jam Jam and are wanting things rushed. This isn't ORS people, alright.

 

[RPDL]

feeling upset much, eh?
didnt take your medication just yet?

Not a good look dude. You're better than making jokes about stuff like this.

 

[Lathe29]

It's not hurting anyone or even hurting the development time at all, despite the outlandish claim that it is.

Weird take in an already condescending post. Of course it takes away from development time. If you're spending time writing/posing/rendering bonus scenes it takes away from the main project. It isn't really a controversial statement nor is it being overtly critical.

Happy for the people that like them but for me its unnecessary. Its still slightly better than deciding to spend time and rework old scenes or start a second project entirely but I'd still rather see devs finish a project first.

 

[Abhai]

Well, I don't mean to be rude but you're speaking for yourself, buddy. The high tiers pledges voted and paid for those extra scenes, so like it or not it does matter. Personally I don't mind those extra scenes at all.

Not to mention short stories add a little variety and can be means to take a break from the main body of work while keeping fans somewhat interested in the game and story. Simple one-shots.

Certainly better than 20 different minigames each outting.

I mean I agree about the your take on the extra scene bit I was more talking about the fact that he is disappointed in the fact there is only 86 animations. Which is why I said to him .....

I'm sorry, but the Project Manager position at Underground Studios is already taken.
I'll be sure to forward your resume to Jachu, though, and we'll call you back, okay?

Well, the animations for the extra scene literally took one week to pose and render. Now I’m working on static renders while beta-team tests the main game. I don’t see that huge waste of time some of you guys imply.

my point is explained quite well already (thanks!), so im not gonna dwell further into it.
im just gonna say "halfway house" - if you are "gamers" as you obviously think of yourelves, you should be quite familiar with that game - how it was at the beginning, how it is now (extra/bonus scenes as a turning point).
i just hope this game wont turn into another "halfay baked piece"...only the time will tell.

 

[Darkdevil66]

my point is explained quite well already (thanks!), so im not gonna dwell further into it.
im just gonna say "halfway house" - if you are "gamers" as you obviously think of yourelves, you should be quite familiar with that game - how it was at the beginning, how it is now (extra/bonus scenes as a turning point).
i just hope this game wont turn into another "halfay baked piece"...only the time will tell.

Precisely, it's actually the other way around here. Unlike Az, UndergroundStudio delivers the bonus content AFTER the actual updates, instead of spending two year delivering nothing but bonus content. Like mentionned previously, ClassyLemon does the same thing.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Yep, but the things is, pirates here are dying to teach you how you should handle your business

18 games I've spent various amounts of money in my time around here and every single one of them I played here first, but sure advice devs not to treat this place as potential customers. Imagine being on a pirate site and thinking you are better than the rest of the plebs

 

[Leongen43]

Well, the animations for the extra scene literally took one week to pose and render. Now I’m working on static renders while beta-team tests the main game. I don’t see that huge waste of time some of you guys imply.

You're right ROL is a great game that I like and those negative reviews are the same boring nonconformists as always, great job keep up the good work I hope to see hot sex with Jasmine at some point

 

[LizaS]

Yeah... because the devs aren't already working on the main body it REALLY takes away that 'precious development time' to put out a little extra that takes 1-2 months to do, on top of already working on the main game.

LMAO. Yeah, that's not a lot of time, you're right.

Honestly, its the devs choice in the matter.

Yep. Agreed. And all the best to them. It's frustrating, but I wouldn't get out of my way to make them stop it. 'Cause I also enjoy 'em.

Well, the animations for the extra scene literally took one week to pose and render. Now I’m working on static renders while beta-team tests the main game. I don’t see that huge waste of time some of you guys imply.

Thanks for the clarification! Curious, how much time would you think planning, writing, coding, posing and rendering static renders for the bonus scenes entails?

 

[Abhai]

Precisely, it's actually the other way around here. Unlike Az, UndergroundStudio delivers the bonus content AFTER the actual updates, instead of spending two year delivering nothing but bonus content. Like mentionned previously, ClassyLemon does the same thing.

regardless, we shall see how it goes anyway.
would hate to see another failed project, already too many good games have fallen into an oblivion...

 

[SerHawkes]

Precisely, it's actually the other way around here. Unlike Az, UndergroundStudio delivers the bonus content AFTER the actual updates, instead of spending two year delivering nothing but bonus content. Like mentionned previously, ClassyLemon does the same thing.

I miss BHQ... won't lie.

But nailed it on the head. Some devs don't bother doing bonus content, some do. Those that do either do it in the way US or CL do it in after a Chapter or Update is done or do it the entirely long winded process.



Honestly... this bitching and moaning about what or where time should be spent and such in terms of development, when we are somewhat on the eve of chapter 3? Really guys and gals? Are we really going to start a bitchfest? Truly??? Like there is nothing better to talk about?

 

[Dessolos]

I will say this I never liked the idea of extra scenes being locked behind a higher tier than what you would need for a basic tier to get access to the game as it almost feels like DLC when it comes to AVN's. Yet if it's only 1-2 weeks not a big deal at all then as it is a nice gesture to those that support the dev beyond the basic tiers. Still would like it more if it was time exclusive but this is my gamer side talking after playing to many EA and Ubisoft games lol.

UndergroundStudio I have a question about the extra scene will people that buy the game on steam when it comes out on steam get access to it or is it gonna be sold like a dlc type of deal?

 

[Joshy92]

I think I'm going to live dangerously and do a Jasmine focused playthrough eventually.
It's just so hard to focus on someone who isn't Alison.

 

[anonnyscouse]

I personally don't care if there is or isn't bonus content, my first comment wasn't "defending" it, it was just explaining why bonus scenes would have such a large amount of animations in comparison to the main game, my second comment was someone being so against the bonus content considering a different dev doing the same thing as one of the best devs around seems strange.

Every dev has to offer something for higher tiers, even if subscribers don't care about the extras they get for that tier, bonus content like this is better than the odd render put randomly into tiers even if the renders put into a $75 tier are no better than renders put into a $10 tier.

The main point being made that I totally disagree with though is the idea that UndergroundStudio are somehow changing their story to suit subscriber requests. The subscriber requests are simply for renders or for the bonus content, not the story itself, which is the trap other devs have fallen into and killed their game because of it.

 

[SerHawkes]

I think I'm going to live dangerously and do a Jasmine focused playthrough eventually.
It's just so hard to focus on someone who isn't Alison.

Live dangerously. Knock up Jam Jam, get killed by the soon to be ex 'girlfriend'. Les go!!!

 

[Dessolos]

I think I'm going to live dangerously and do a Jasmine focused playthrough eventually.
It's just so hard to focus on someone who isn't Alison.

I can't believe what im hearing Joshy a playthrough that isn't Alison now that is blasphemy of the highest degree when it comes to us simps. Now if it's a playthrough cause you are horny now that wouldn't be blasphemy. I think im gonna have to do an extra Alison playthrough now because of this to make up for your lack of Alison simping.

 

[risky0]

Sorry guys, I've been abducted by aliens, but the good news is that I have my laptop with me, so the next update release date will be later than usual.

 

[Darkdevil66]

Sorry guys, I've been abducted by aliens, but the good news is that I have my laptop with me, so the next update release date will be later than usual.

Excellent timing, I hope you did it on purpose

 

[anonnyscouse]

Sorry guys, I've been abducted by aliens, but the good news is that I have my laptop with me, so the next update release date will be later than usual.

A bit late with that "joke", the release dates have been posted earlier today.