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Tomy75

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Maggie scene is both one of the weirdest and one of the most anti-climatic I've ever seen in a AVN...
I'm starting to regret to have helped her. I hope it will be possible to have a second go at Maggie if I skip this scene...
I totally agree, it does not fit her personality at all, she looked like one of the most romantic LIs in this game and now she's acting like a cheap slut/dominatrix. Such a big and totally unexpected disappointment...
 

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I totally agree, it does not fit her personality at all, she looked like one of the most romantic LIs in this game and now she's acting like a cheap slut/dominatrix. Such a big and totally unexpected disappointment...
I actually didn't mind it. Disclaimer: Maggie is my fav.

First time I saw it I went WTF and was pissed. Had a quick look at the coding and don't think you can pick her up later. So went back and did it.

On the second view, I started to see that it wasn't about femdom, but security. We don't know if Maggie has any sexual issue or mistrust of men. But growing up with the dick and then boarding school, it wouldn't be unusual. In all previous contact with her if you objectify her, slap her ass, or whistle, you lose points. It's not about finding her sexy, cause you can imagine her in lingerie and she likes it, you get points. It's the ones where you see her as an object.

Using the tie downs, even though MC could break them at anytime, gives her a sense of safety that allows her to open herself up to him. She wasn't using dominatrix language, like "shut up bitch, do what I say". It was more, "you like that". She's just as concerned with MC's pleasure as her own.

I don't think she would have done it, if she hadn't previously found MC's handcuffs, and thought he wanted it or at least like it. I don't expect (& really hope) that this is not going to be the normal sex with her. But if she comes out with whips and chains in the next lewd, I'm gonna run the other way.
 

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People did not get this at first sight? How, you guys skipped all the dialogues or what? :unsure:
I've seen so many posts of people complaining about the scene, I thought I should offer a defence for poor Maggie.

And yes, first time through I was clicking quickly, (I always do, in all my games), not CTRL, just quickly. Then I go through again and analyze each frame and word (well in the story ones anyway).
 
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I've seen so many posts of people complaining about the scene, I thought I should offer a defence for poor Maggie.

And yes, first time through I was clicking quickly, (I always do, in all my games), not CTRL, just quickly. Then I go through again and analyze each frame and word (well in the story ones anyway).
It was not directed at you but general who did not get her issues. She is not my fav, so I was not even concentrated on her but even I still got that so it's kinda weird people missing that point.
 

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I actually didn't mind it. Disclaimer: Maggie is my fav.

First time I saw it I went WTF and was pissed. Had a quick look at the coding and don't think you can pick her up later. So went back and did it.

On the second view, I started to see that it wasn't about femdom, but security. We don't know if Maggie has any sexual issue or mistrust of men. But growing up with the dick and then boarding school, it wouldn't be unusual. In all previous contact with her if you objectify her, slap her ass, or whistle, you lose points. It's not about finding her sexy, cause you can imagine her in lingerie and she likes it, you get points. It's the ones where you see her as an object.

Using the tie downs, even though MC could break them at anytime, gives her a sense of safety that allows her to open herself up to him. She wasn't using dominatrix language, like "shut up bitch, do what I say". It was more, "you like that". She's just as concerned with MC's pleasure as her own.

I don't think she would have done it, if she hadn't previously found MC's handcuffs, and thought he wanted it or at least like it. I don't expect (& really hope) that this is not going to be the normal sex with her. But if she comes out with whips and chains in the next lewd, I'm gonna run the other way.
You make some very valid points. I caught the fact that she is not a real dominatrix because of the wording she used, but I was pissed too, just like you. I get that she has issues trusting men because of her asshole step-father, but I still think that what she did is totally out of her character (even though she came like never before) and not a good way to start a trusting relationship with a man. I don't know... I was expecting much more from her, to build something little by little. Looking at her past, I couldn't care less if it took 6 episodes to get her to trust the MC and get sexual with him, it's not so uncommon in the world of AVNs, would have been way better than this off-putting scene imo.
 
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You make some very valid points. I caught the fact that she is not a real dominatrix because of the wording she used, but I was pissed too, just like you. I get that she has issues trusting men because of her asshole step-father, but I still think that what she did is totally out of her character (even though she came like never before) and not a good way to start a trusting relationship with a man. I don't know... I was expecting much more from her, to build something little by little. Looking at her past, I couldn't care less if it took 6 episodes to get her to trust the MC and get sexual with him, it's not so uncommon in the world of AVNs, would have been way better than this off-putting scene imo.
True, can't deny, I would have much preferred a more romantic/trust buildup (which I did think was coming). Or a player choice to choose not to be tied and still get a BJ. Not relationship over, that was pretty harsh. But, this was what I was given, so I worked with it. I truly believe that it wouldn't have happened without finding the cuffs. Clearly, Devs were planning that this is how the scene would play out quite some time ago. And, I do have my fingers crossed, that this is the last time we have a scene like that with her (or at least a choice to avoid it).

Maybe they were using the old phrase, It's always the quiet ones that turn the wildest in the bedroom. So perhaps next time Maggie will have a nurse or catwoman costume. That I could get onboard with.
 

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so it's kinda weird people missing that point.
Dude...how long you been here now.

F95 mate ;)

(Like MIlton though, Maggie easily, by head and tails the best and my fave...however, should that content continue then I will just drop the entire VN as i already have issues with it I don't see being resolved and none of the other LI do it for me).
 
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I totally agree, it does not fit her personality at all, she looked like one of the most romantic LIs in this game and now she's acting like a cheap slut/dominatrix. Such a big and totally unexpected disappointment...
I also did not enjoy that scene, and as soon as I saw the direction it was going on one of my saves, I loaded a previous save and just ended up skipping the scene, and therefor skipping Maggie.

Although... how does someone being into handcuffing someone, make them a slut? A cheap dominatrix I mean, even that's a stretch but sure I can at least understand it, but a slut? I think you should look up the definition of the word.


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While I'm here figured I'd give my quick ranking of all the girls for me personally.

Jasmine>Allison>>Natalya>Dr. Mahamaya>Alexa>Maggie>Kris>>Veronica

Maggie was higher but that massage scene dropped her a couple of spots for me. If she hadn't done it as a surprise and talked to the MC beforehand about it, and then you get an option to do it or not I would have respected her more. However, just springing something suddenly like that on someone is not cool. I also have no idea if you decline that scene if you can still have a relationship with her in the future. And even if you can if she will want to do more of the same. So for now she will remain in the bottom half of characters I like.
 
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There are no sluts in this game unfortunately.
Nothing would excite me more than romancing a very promiscuous girl and showing her I'm the guy for her.
 

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I can't even remember her tbh. It's been ages since I last played because I'm waiting for steam.

Is she a confirmed full LI or just a hookup?
I have no idea if she will be an actual LI or just a casual fuck buddy, but she's Jasmine's friend that is also in your class and that goes to the ball with you and Jasmine. (The one with the glasses)
 
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I have no idea if she will be an actual LI or just a casual fuck buddy, but she's Jasmine's friend that is also in your class and that goes to the ball with you and Jasmine. (The one with the glasses)
I didn't go with Jasmine I went with my sweetie pie Allison. She is so perfect and wonderful.
 
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I didn't go with Jasmine I went with my sweetie pie Allison. She is so perfect and wonderful.
I did both, considering I have a save for both Jasmine and Allison since they are easily my two favorites.
 
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