VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Ep. 3.2 Extra Fix3] [Underground Studio]

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TonyMurray said:
Has anything been said about Patricia, or is that just speculation about her having a path? I've not seen anything, but I've not been around the game long enough for that to mean anything, so it's a genuine question.
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No? I mean, AFAIK the devs haven't said anything about Patricia yet, but here look at their patreon banner.

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If she won't have her own path, then why did they put her there? :WeSmart:

Btw, I'm not saying she's a MG lol but it so obvious that she and Tiana will have their own "sexy adventures" with Jake like Alexa and Kris. :BootyTime:
 
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Steuan said:
No? I mean, AFAIK the devs haven't said anything about Patricia yet, but here look at their patreon banner.

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If she won't have her own path, then why did they put her there? :WeSmart:

Btw, I'm not saying she's a MG lol but it so obvious that she and Tiana will have their own "sexy adventures" with Jake like Alexa and Kris. :BootyTime:
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And you're saying that despite Tiana not being in the image? :LOL:

No, I suggest there may well be some adventures, but it also wouldn't surprise me if there are none, and she's just eye candy at the races. and being part of a banner image doesn't necessarily mean anything when it's a varied group like this.
 
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Dessolos said:
im a believer in it depends entirely on your own POV if it's porn or not I don't care if it is technically by definition. Despite having sex scenes in it to me that doesn't automatically = porn. I'd personally classify this game somewhere in the middle cause it feels more story than porn to me but it's hard to deny scenes like the Veronica parking alot and most of Nat's scene + Extra's feel more like porn to me. But id say most of the scenes in this game do not count as such for me. Tho seeing how things are speeding up in the lewd department I can see that opinion of mine changing for this game.
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If one defines "Porn" by ignoring the conventional definition of pornography and saying that it's simply a matter of how good you subjectively feel the "main theme" of the story is, then I can't agree with that .... That's an opinion-based argument not a fact-based one, and it's not convincing in the slightest.

The fact is that Race of Life undeniably meets the definition of pornographic media because it includes depiction of explicit sex acts for the express purpose of causing sexual arousal. It includes lots of it, in fact. And unless someone can tell me that there is another reason for showing a close-up shot of Jake's dick punching Natalya's cervix, then I'm going to say it's quite accurate to say the scene was expressly designed to ellicit sexual arousal. That's not based on my made-up definition, that's a standard definition consistent with many sources (
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So if a certain someone is going to jump on someone else for calling it a porn game and declare "your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong", I think they should at least try to support that with a standard, widely accepted definition of "Pornography" instead of using their own completely subjective personal definition as a source of truth...

Personally, I'd say it's far more accurate to say that yes, Race of Life absolutely is a Porn Game or a "Porn VN" but it's a story-driven one. If you took away all the porn scenes and replaced them with completely PG interactions, then I think Race of Life could still hold up quite well as a story... if perhaps distinctly less fun for degenerates like me. But the very inclusion of those highly explicit sex scenes like the close-up shots of Natalya's afformentioned doinking is what qualifies Race of Life as a porn game because those scenes wouldn't be there except for sexual entertainment purposes. Race of Life simply raises the bar of story-driven porn games, but that doesn't make it stop being porn.

Also, I don't believe that having a good story and being pornographic are in any way mutually exclusive... unless of course, one is fallaciously trying to convince themselves that their favorite game isn't porn because they "don't play porn games". Porn can absolutely have fantastic storytelling, which is a niche that AVNs fill spectacularly. Honestly its the marriage of porn and storytelling why I love AVNs so much. It's porn media that involves stories and characters that I can give a shit about which makes the porn even hotter.
 
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Jericho85 said:
If you took away all the porn scenes and replaced them with completely PG interactions, then I think Race of Life could still hold up fairly well as a story.
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That's the important bit....however, I'm curious...

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Nymphomaniac
Pasolini
Dogtooth
Antichrist
Baise-moi

To name some of the more well known films...porn too?
 
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There are only 24 hours left until the release of Race of Life on Steam! More and more girls are showing up for the launch... and that’s still not all of them! Meanwhile, we’re putting the finishing touches on everything and can’t wait for you to unlock the first achievements!

After release, I’ll write a big post-release update summarizing our work, sharing plans for future updates, and so on. Feel free to leave any questions you have in the comments, and I’ll do my best to answer them in the post.

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Maviarab said:
That's the important bit....however, I'm curious...

9 Songs
Nymphomaniac
Pasolini
Dog tooth
Antichrist
Baise-moi

To name some of the more well known films...porn too?
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My entire post was the important bit. Hence why I wrote it.

I haven't seen any of those, but if they portray scenes of unsimulated sex acts then they can absolutely be considered pornographic. And I'll bet they were considered porn by most ratings standards and probably had to cut all the good parts from theatrical versions. But that's neither here nor there. The topic here is whether it's fine to call "Race of Life" a porn game, and I think it absolutely is.
 
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Jericho85 said:
I haven't seen any of those, but if they portray scenes of unsimulated sex then they can absolutely be considered pornographic. And I'll bet they were considered porn by most ratings standards and probably had to cut all the good parts from theatrical versions. But that's neither here nor there. The topic here is whether it's fine to call "Race of Life" a porn game, and I think it absolutely is.
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They all show explicit real sex. None are classed as porn....because that is not the focus....
 
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They're classified as porn by the definition of porn... The opinion that it's "not porn" is subjective.
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When it comes to film classifactions etc, no subjectivity..it's a regulated body and they are not classed as porn. Argue that all you like with the BBFC and AFI etc etc...won't change anything lol. Last I recall, they do not show 'porn' in mainstream cinema's ;)
 
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If one defines "Porn" by ignoring the conventional definition of pornography and saying that it's simply a matter of how good you subjectively feel the "main theme" of the story is, then I can't agree with that .... That's an opinion-based argument not a fact-based one, and it's not convincing in the slightest.

The fact is that Race of Life undeniably meets the definition of pornographic media because it includes depiction of explicit sex acts for the express purpose of causing sexual arousal. It includes lots of it, in fact. And unless someone can tell me that there is another reason for showing a close-up shot of Jake's dick punching Natalya's cervix, then I'm going to say it's quite accurate to say the scene was expressly designed to ellicit sexual arousal. That's not based on my made-up definition, that's a standard definition consistent with many sources (
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, etc...)

So if a certain someone is going to jump on someone else for calling it a porn game and declare "your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong", I think they should at least try to support that with a standard, widely accepted definition of "Pornography" instead of using their own completely subjective personal definition as a source of truth...

Personally, I'd say it's far more accurate to say that yes, Race of Life absolutely is a Porn Game or a "Porn VN" but it's a story-driven one. If you took away all the porn scenes and replaced them with completely PG interactions, then I think Race of Life could still hold up quite well as a story... if perhaps distinctly less fun for degenerates like me. But the very inclusion of those highly explicit sex scenes like the close-up shots of Natalya's afformentioned doinking is what qualifies Race of Life as a porn game because those scenes wouldn't be there except for sexual entertainment purposes. Race of Life simply raises the bar of story-driven porn games, but that doesn't make it stop being porn.

Also, I don't believe that having a good story and being pornographic are in any way mutually exclusive... unless of course, one is fallaciously trying to convince themselves that their favorite game isn't porn because they "don't play porn games". Porn can absolutely have fantastic storytelling, which is a niche that AVNs fill spectacularly. Honestly its the marriage of porn and storytelling why I love AVNs so much. It's porn media that involves stories and characters that I can give a shit about which makes the porn even hotter.
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im not saying you are wrong when going by textbook definition. But what I was trying to say is when you don't go by textbook definition of porn which I believe is something others on this site do as well it's hard to consider this a porn game. Which is why from time to time you might see someone calling X is not a porn game even if factually it can be considered one . So yeah factually you might be correct ( didn't bother to read the actual definition.) Yeah it's subjective and opinionated no denying that but when there is more of a story and romance focus than getting to the porn it does not come across as one to some of us.

Which is exactly why I don't consider this a porn game but I do see this game more of a middle ground. As there are certain situations like the parking alot sex scene that comes across as a scene that is there more for the porn as it had no romance or anything , it just kind of happens. But this game isn't full of scenes like that either as it isn't the focus or purpose of the game. Also the fact there is extra scenes which is there for the porn makes me clasify this as something in between porn and not.

Yeah I know it isn't anything more than my opinion but you will never change my mind about me saying this isn't a porn game no matter what . I really don't care if im wrong by the actual textbook definition It's just how I feel. Just cause it's the actual definition does not mean we have to agree with every definition out there 100% of the time. Now be a different story if I was saying I was factually right cause there be no arguing how wrong I am if I was saying that.
 
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Maviarab said:
When it comes to film classifactions etc, no subjectivity..it's a regulated body and they are not classed as porn. Argue that all you like with the BBFC and AFI etc etc...won't change anything lol. Last I recall, they do not show 'porn' in mainstream cinema's ;)
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Yet I tried to find the rating for all of those films and all I could find lots of talk about "uncut" and "unrated" versions which leads me to believe that those films had to be edited in someway for a screenings in mainstream theaters, and I can probably guess which scenes they cut. If there are "edited" and "uncut" versions then I think it's safe to assume that at least someone considered those scenes to be pornographic.

Would you say that Kris sucking Jake's cock while Alexa sucks his balls is not pornographic? Or the double BJ scene with Natalya and Jasmine after which Jake plasters both their faces? What was the purpose of those scenes to you?
 
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Dessolos said:
im not saying you are wrong when going by textbook definition. But what I was trying to say is when you don't go by textbook definition of porn which I believe is something others on this site do as well it's hard to consider this a porn game. Which is why from time to time you might see someone calling X is not a porn game even if factually it can be considered one . So yeah factually you might be correct ( didn't bother to read the actual definition.) Yeah it's subjective and opinionated no denying that but when there is more of a story and romance focus than getting to the porn it does not come across as one to some of us.

Which is exactly why I don't consider this a porn game but I do see this game more of a middle ground. As there are certain situations like the parking alot sex scene that comes across as a scene that is there more for the porn as it had no romance or anything , it just kind of happens. But this game isn't full of scenes like that either as it isn't the focus or purpose of the game. Also the fact there is extra scenes which is there for the porn makes me clasify this as something in between porn and not.

Yeah I know it isn't anything more than my opinion but you will never change my mind about me saying this isn't a porn game no matter what . I really don't care if im wrong by the actual textbook definition It's just how I feel. Just cause it's the actual definition does not mean we have to agree with every definition out there 100% of the time. Now be a different story if I was saying I was factually right cause there be no arguing how wrong I am if I was saying that.
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It's your personal view that it's not a porn game and I can totally respect that. I also don't see you telling people off who call it a porn game. I respect that too.

This is the kind of comment I don't respect:

your assumptions about this being a porn game are wrong, so I'm not even gonna reply to the rest.
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jadepaladin said:
Never thought I'd say this but I miss the waifu wars. Where are the Allison vs Jasmine vs Veronica debates?
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We just need someone to make an argumentative "polemic" statement about one of those waifu's and I bet the debate will cycle and restart again :p. I'm usually out of those wars, they are pointless for me to waste energy to try to find good arguments about it but if people keep civil they are enjoyable to read *getting my popcorn* :LOL:.
 
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