BTLD

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There sure are a lot of hyper-masculine alpha males in this porn forum. Why would the average person argue with a hostile man who claims to be a police officer? For the most part, people want to avoid confrontation.

There are plenty of cases of people being taken advantage of by someone impersonating a cop. There are plenty of cases of people being harassed by actual police officers, whether on duty in uniform, off duty out of uniform, or off duty in plain clothes. There are plenty of cases of police officers being complete assholes and doing things which aren't strictly legal. There are plenty of cases of police departments covering up police misconduct. There are plenty of people who don't want to confront open hostility. There are plenty of people who are wary of or afraid of the police.
what?
So arguing with a police officer who has not identified himself no badge no nothing on MC's property off duty...is a sign of Alpha hyper-masculine male?what the actual fuck?
I would agree with you if when he was blocked by the "police officer" he would have gotten out ...smashed his face between the door and car , pissed on his face and then brought his daughter/wife/mother fucked her right there while banging his chest like a ape screamiing I AM NUMERO UNO.
Sorry if I seem harsh but ...what happened was shit and how we wanted the MC has nothing to do with alpha bullshit but has all the things to do with MC being able to defend himself under the law...
MC should have been able with no problems to tell him to get the fuck off his property...
Legally talking.
EDIT : Don't confuse defending yourself with assaulting someone. or being overly aggresive.
This just put the MC under a bitch light (personal view)
 

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On thing is for sure. Despite all the criticism for this update, this game is popular. I mean 260 pages and it's only on the 2nd release. Lots of people are interested.
Hm,mm...like stats, depends how you read that. Was popular becuase the first release teased something that isn't happening...and was incredibly good. Page numbers grew since because of the delays...then the incredibly umpopular recent addition in this last update (which is still being talked about).

They also really need the support if we want to see updates more frequently because SirD was saying on Discord that if they could hire one other person to help out with the game, then they could probably release a new update every 3 months, and that's even with the 2 of them working on their own games.
BWahahahahaha :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Isn't that the reason they went full-time in the first place? Riiiggghhhht......
 

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I was really enjoying this game then.... the Cop turned up what a waist of time, stupid part of the story, the rest of the story line is good dealing with 3 daughters and a grieving Mother and the life around is job, the Dev should stick to that otherwise the game is like any other.
Same here. Now i likes to see a gym & gun store in game (because mc already realised that glenn can take him down & my mc want to punch at his nose). But i know it is not possible. Because it is not a free roam game.
I really hope that Glenn is not the start of *NTR* (especially un avoidable).
 

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Same here. Now i likes to see a gym & gun store in game (because mc already realised that glenn can take him down & my mc want to punch at his nose). But i know it is not possible. Because it is not a free roam game.
I really hope that Glenn is not the start of *NTR* (especially un avoidable).
They already said the game wont have any NTR, i think its even in the front page
 
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On my signature 1 of those games guy took very long for update,but the thing that he wrote all his Patrons an email saying why,he had personal issues(friend passed away) and we all supported him.I'll support any game where the dev will communicate with their Patrons,will not support a game where they just want to milk the cow
You should also mention that said dev paused his patreon for the entire time and in turn passed up on roughly $80,000 only to still receive massive flack for having to deal with grave personal problems and not working on their game – both from patrons and our fellow pirates alike. Which just goes to show that fewer and fewer people care about the impressions they leave behind.
 

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And the best part is that there's no danger of NTR.
Yeah that is reassuring, but honestly i rather deal with a antagonist like Carl from Lord of Imagination (avoidable ntr, and a hope of killing him down the road), than dealing with a 2nd Denise from Double Homework, a character which ruins the game and all the MC does is going along with his bs because reasons...

That being said i think this story needs no ntr at all, including only the vibe, with no real threat.

cop invades MC's home with no reasonable motive, MC attacks cop in home defense. Cop reports MC to judges, judges rule in MC's favor (judge may or may not be paid off by MC)
How about:
Cop invades MC's home -> MC shoots him because he thinks it is a burglar and a potential threat for his and the triplets life = completely legit, with no further ramifications.

Oh people are still debating if Glenn should be removed? I agree that the character is annoying as fuck and it's not really needed, but they will not remove it. Best case scenario the mc deals with him pretty fast and he stops being an issue, but the character will stay around for a while.
While i am for removing him, i think a rewrite of his introduction scene could help a lot, to make him at least more bearable and it wouldn't need much work/time.
I agree that he should dealt with fast, but than let's be honest, he would just be a waste of time and resources with little to no benefit for the story.

eah, as much as I would like a more focused game that is triplet-centric with a bit of Brooke and Natalie on the side, doing this would require a lot of time and not only would that delay this game further, but they also have their own games they need to worry about too so they can't really afford to spend time on a revamp of chapter 2 and the whole plan for the game.

Best thing is to just keep moving forward and iron things out as they go.
I think a middle way would be the sufficient, u don't to revamp the whole chapter.

A few renders and well writen dialogue, which adds a few 'uneventful' days, where the triplets settle down a bit and shows a bit of bonding time (similar as many epilogues are handled).
It isn't a perfect solution, but it could be done without investing much time/resources. It would lessen the whole, too much, too fast, also the Liv scene at the end would feel less rushed.

The point system for dark is a larger issue thought.

And sorry but why would u try to iron out things over several updates, if u could just do it in this update and be over with ?
The approach u suggest has a much higher risk that things go wrong down the road, that they realize that they need to revamp several chapters later on.
So a bit of delay now , is much preferred to huge delays later on.
 

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Yeah, as much as I would like a more focused game that is triplet-centric with a bit of Brooke and Natalie on the side, doing this would require a lot of time and not only would that delay this game further, but they also have their own games they need to worry about too so they can't really afford to spend time on a revamp of chapter 2 and the whole plan for the game.

Best thing is to just keep moving forward and iron things out as they go.
Still defending and talking crap. It would take less time than what they are currently doing....

Pretty damn fecking sure Damned hasn't already written a George Martin worthy 3k page novel already for it. So what exactly needs some major revamp/rewrite? Remove the uneccessary...more time for what is important (just like you and seemingly most others would like and was teased and hinted at in the first release).
 

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Honestly this is one game I wanted to support after release 1, but I wanted to see how long it would take for the next. On the first release it shot very high up on my list of top games, replacing all of those I do support bar one. But that said I won't support any dev that takes more than 2 months to release an update and won't support one that will not focus on the one I'd want to support. So till those two things change I won't, though I might consider the buy a coffee route after each update.
You generally don't find many games that can produce renders and animations of this high a quality and updates that last as long as this that are done in 2 months or less. For the best games out there, 3-4+ months is the norm, so whilst i can understand wanting updates to be produced quickly, unless someone is working with a team of people, it's just not feasible to expect all devs to be producing updates that quickly if you want games to be this high quality.

They are earning a lot of money between their games and he is still asking for more money to "hire" another person? They should have that money already with all that they earn, that's just being greedy. Also the update should be always in 3 months, you have even said it yourself in many of your post, now that they have no problems it should take the normal time to update which is 3 months, so if they say they need more money to update the game in 3 months is BS.

About the cop, the things that is wrong is how he was introduced, no one would give their id or anything to a guy that says he is a "cop" without showing his badge and without you doing anything illegal and what is worse being in your property, so it was a bad writen character, people gave the criticism, and they still ignore it, because they have plans for him, but also says that he isn't that importat to the story, so consider me confused.
To be clear, what I was saying with regards to how it "could" be 3-4 months was more an expression of my own personal hope and optimism that this will be the case, not that this is how it will be. I would like it to be this way, but am prepared for it to be longer, although it shouldn't (hopefully) be as long as this one.

As for hiring someone else, right now they earn around $6k between them with around $5k coming from this game and the rest being made up from their own games. When split, that's around $3k each, especially when you factor in that Patreon takes a 30% cut from content creators, giving them a yearly salary of around $34-35k which is about the median income level and just barely liveable with, particularly in the US where I believe they both are. So they really can't afford someone else and would probably need to increase the funding overall to at least $9k to be able to afford another person.

As for the cop, yes, he was introduced in a poor way and his actions certainly seem outlandish, but we have to keep in mind 2 things:
  1. This is a porn game and as such they tend to work on different logic from what we do in the real world, and there are games out there that take it to the extreme edges of believability, yet are immensely popular despite that. This cop aspect stretches believability a bit, but it's not as bad as many other games.
  2. We are still very early on in this game and there is plenty of time to right the ship and for things that are as jarring and seemingly out of place as this to improve and be resolved in a satisfactory way, so all we can really do is give it time and hope for the best.
 

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You generally don't find many games that can produce renders and animations of this high a quality and updates that last as long as this that are done in 2 months or less. For the best games out there, 3-4+ months is the norm, so whilst i can understand wanting updates to be produced quickly, unless someone is working with a team of people, it's just not feasible to expect all devs to be producing updates that quickly if you want games to be this high quality.
Ya ...I don't really agree with you there...there are amazing games that update the game once or even twice a month...with amazing story/renders everything ...and you know it aswell..like lets say...maybe my signature?not the text :)
EDIT : and even the text one has a awesome story ( at least from my POV) and very good animations...so...
Ya I really don't agree there :p
 
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The comments about how the MC is a wimp because of how he reacted to the cop are amusing.

Confronted by an aggressive guy who he knows is a cop (some people seem to have missed this,) even if currently out of uniform, he chose to take the strategic path. Hand over the documents, keep mostly calm, get out of there. At the end he thinks (paraphrased) "you fucked with the wrong person." As in, he's not going to let it stand. I've been faced with people like that cop. Any attempt at resistance, e.g., getting out your phone to call the police and report him, is likely to be met with violence. Violence which will probably end with the MC badly hurt (he knows the cop can take him down.) Then you have cop on one side saying "guy assaulted me", MC on other saying "no I did not," and no witnesses.

Even if it plays out such that the MC gets off, he's going to jail for a few hours while the situation gets sorted out.

It's really not difficult to imagine this being the case. Whether that was the writer's intent we don't know.

To be clear again: I don't like the character. I don't like how he was introduced. I disagree that it paints the MC as a wimp or that he had much better options in the moment.
 

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The comments about how the MC is a wimp because of how he reacted to the cop are amusing.

Confronted by an aggressive guy who he knows is a cop (some people seem to have missed this,) even if currently out of uniform, he chose to take the strategic path. Hand over the documents, keep mostly calm, get out of there. At the end he thinks (paraphrased) "you fucked with the wrong person." As in, he's not going to let it stand. I've been faced with people like that cop. Any attempt at resistance, e.g., getting out your phone to call the police and report him, is likely to be met with violence. Violence which will probably end with the MC badly hurt (he knows the cop can take him down.) Then you have cop on one side saying "guy assaulted me", MC on other saying "no I did not," and no witnesses.

Even if it plays out such that the MC gets off, he's going to jail for a few hours while the situation gets sorted out.

It's really not difficult to imagine this being the case. Whether that was the writer's intent we don't know.

To be clear again: I don't like the character. I don't like how he was introduced. I disagree that it paints the MC as a wimp or that he had much better options in the moment.
it paints him as a winner...he was winning that situation...he handled that with tact ..swearing him in his mind and complying like a bitch in reality...seriously man?
there were no grounds for anything ...he could have told the cop to take a hike and nothing could have happened..since he was on his property....
Sorry but I believe you are in the wrong here...
 
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Ya ...I don't really agree with you there...there are amazing games that update the game once or even twice a month...with amazing story/renders everything ...and you know it aswell..like lets say...maybe my signature?not the text :)
EDIT : and even the text one has a awesome story ( at least from my POV) and very good animations...so...
Ya I really don't agree there :p
I like WVM too, it's a great game and is certainly high quality, but the last update had 220 renders and the one before that had just 150. This update to Radiant had 720 with 10 animations and the Vanessa one was 2000 individual images that took a whole month to be rendered. The update was also quite long, took me about 1hr 50mins, and WVM's are short, probably 30mins at most. Also, this game is choice-based with multiple branching paths and WVM is linear which makes coding it much easier.

This is not me bashing WVM, I greatly enjoy it and it's one of my favourites, but if they took 3 months between updates, then you'd probably have 1000-2000 renders with a good couple of hours of playtime, which to me, is better than the short updates. Games like CoBD, BaDIK, Leap of Faith, Timestamps, Become a Rockstar, all take 3 months or more and I think most would agree they're among the best out there, and these are the types of games that the devs are trying to emulate in terms of both quality and quantity of the updates.
 

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I like WVM too, it's a great game and is certainly high quality, but the last update had 220 renders and the one before that had just 150. This update to Radiant had 720 with 10 animations and the Vanessa one was 2000 individual images that took a whole month to be rendered. The update was also quite long, took me about 1hr 50mins, and WVM's are short, probably 30mins at most. Also, this game is choice-based with multiple branching paths and WVM is linear which makes coding it much easier.

This is not me bashing WVM, I greatly enjoy it and it's one of my favourites, but if they took 3 months between updates, then you'd probably have 1000-2000 renders with a good couple of hours of playtime, which to me, is better than the short updates. Games like CoBD, BaDIK, Leap of Faith, Timestamps, Become a Rockstar, all take 3 months or more and I think most would agree they're among the best out there, and these are the types of games that the devs are trying to emulate in terms of both quality and quantity of the updates.
2 updates every month vs 1 every 7 months?
You're not really making a convincing argument....
I would rather play 30-45min every 2 weeks than play ....1 and half hours or 2h every 7 months...
I'm not saying this with ill intent ..or to mock you ...or to be rude...and if you do feel I said it in that way I do apologize, but I think I would rather get smaller updates more frequent that large-ish updates every half a year
 
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You generally don't find many games that can produce renders and animations of this high a quality and updates that last as long as this that are done in 2 months or less. For the best games out there, 3-4+ months is the norm, so whilst i can understand wanting updates to be produced quickly, unless someone is working with a team of people, it's just not feasible to expect all devs to be producing updates that quickly if you want games to be this high quality.



To be clear, what I was saying with regards to how it "could" be 3-4 months was more an expression of my own personal hope and optimism that this will be the case, not that this is how it will be. I would like it to be this way, but am prepared for it to be longer, although it shouldn't (hopefully) be as long as this one.

As for hiring someone else, right now they earn around $6k between them with around $5k coming from this game and the rest being made up from their own games. When split, that's around $3k each, especially when you factor in that Patreon takes a 30% cut from content creators, giving them a yearly salary of around $34-35k which is about the median income level and just barely liveable with, particularly in the US where I believe they both are. So they really can't afford someone else and would probably need to increase the funding overall to at least $9k to be able to afford another person.

As for the cop, yes, he was introduced in a poor way and his actions certainly seem outlandish, but we have to keep in mind 2 things:
  1. This is a porn game and as such they tend to work on different logic from what we do in the real world, and there are games out there that take it to the extreme edges of believability, yet are immensely popular despite that. This cop aspect stretches believability a bit, but it's not as bad as many other games.
  2. We are still very early on in this game and there is plenty of time to right the ship and for things that are as jarring and seemingly out of place as this to improve and be resolved in a satisfactory way, so all we can really do is give it time and hope for the best.
There are plenty of good games that update in 2-3 months that include really good renders, animations, a nice story, etc. In fact there are games that update every 2 months tops, and have more renders per update, more time while playing than this one, so the high quality of renders isn't really an excuse, in fact the delays in this one come from SirD and the problems both devs had.

The initial update time was on July-beginning of August, that's roughtly 3 months, but they had "problems" so they had no time to update until now. The update time said by them was always 3 months to do a good update, they got the support to do this full time and now they are saying that if they don't get more money they won't be able to update in 3 months and that's BS when your work is to do games, in SirD case only 2 games and Polarity uses HS assets so, not a lot of work. Alorth has a staff to help him, said by himself, and should have more than 1 pc to render, so they don't really need more money to update in 3 months, they won't update in that time because they don't want to and if they can earn more money better for them.

I didn't know how much patreon take from devs, but I'm pretty sure that there are people living with less than 3k per month and still can save money so, not really an excuse.

As for the cop:

1 and 2. The this is a porn game doesn't work, because even in porn games they use the realism approach in every things that isn't relationships with the girls. There is no way that anyone will even pay attention to a guy saying he is a "cop" and asking for our id, in civilian clothes, with his civilian car, showing no badge, being in my property and doing illegal things. If some cop did this I will go call the real cops and denunce him, nt saying yes to everything he say, it's dumb and kills the inmersion. If a "cop" do this in real life, you will say no to him and if he insist call the police, because you are doing nothing wrong.

So it's not a "he is kind of a bad guy I don't want to deal with", but a case of "There is no way this is even real, this guy is dumb as fuck and the MC agreeing to all he says is even dumber", I could literally feel how I got dumber reading that retard scene, because there's no way that will work in even a shitty movie or a bad fanfic, people can be reaterded but the MC, a succesfull guy, have the most retarded guy trophy, after the "cop" that's it. If the cop was on duty and in the middle of a road or if the MC did anything illegal I could understand him asking for the id and the MC agreeing, otherwise it's called bad writing. And no the it's only the beggining let's see how this develop doesn't work, because it is already a bad point with an unbelievable start that kills inmersion and now we will be forced to deal with this dumb plot because reasons, instead of the MC saying No to him in that scene and calling the real cops to deal with that lunatic guy who is harrasing you and demanding things while off duty and in my property, seems legit.

So yeah the cop thing, doesn't stretch believability a bit, it just simply broke the believability by the absurd of the situation, and the worst thing is that the devs doesn't even want to listen to the complaint about a bad introduced plot, that breaks the inmersion and the believability of it, that is already stretched by the others thing in the game. And you defense keeps being, "just wait to see where this bad and dumb plot goes before complainint, it's only v 0.2". If you got a fire you put it out, you don't stand there saying "well let's see where this goes", even the people in their discord and patreons complained about it and in that place there are many people that only say yes to everything that devs do and that defend everything even if they are wrong, like you do, so if even them complained about the bad character, why they keep him in? the only answer would be that he is an important piece to the game, but you have also said that he isn't so, why is a bad plot and poorly writen character there?
 

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2 updates every month vs 1 every 7 months?
You're not really making a convincing argument....
I would rather play 30-45min every 2 weeks than play ....1 and half hours or 2h every 7 months...
I'm not saying this with ill intent ..or to mock you ...or to be rude...and if you do feel I said it in that way I do apologize, but I think I would rather get smaller updates more frequent that large-ish updates every half a year
Well obviously it wasn't supposed to take 7 months, but even a 4 month update would have as much content as all the WVM updates in that timeframe, so it's about whether a dev wants to do incremental updates or a larger one every few months, and they're choosing to the larger one.
 
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Well obviously it wasn't supposed to take 7 months, but even a 4 month update would have as much content as all the WVM updates in that timeframe, so it's about whether a dev wants to do incremental updates or a larger one every few months, and they're choosing to the larger one.
true, very true...but it didn't take 4 months now did it?it took 7.
 
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Well obviously it wasn't supposed to take 7 months, but even a 4 month update would have as much content as all the WVM updates in that timeframe, so it's about whether a dev wants to do incremental updates or a larger one every few months, and they're choosing to the larger one.
WVM before the break updated a full chapter with more than 900 renders without including animations in 1,5-2 months, so you aren't really making a good point. This last two updates of WVM was the dev getting a good feeling again while working and he also had to deal with covid and still released, so yeah, again, not a good point. The 4 month update of WVM would be around 1600 renders with or without animation and the update of radiant took 7 months to do 700 still renders plus animations, so yeah again,m not a good point, even if they could do that in 4 months, still won't be a good point.
 

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This isn't just a guy claiming to be a cop, this is MC's neighbor who he knows for a fact is a cop. Very different situation. What does being in the right get him? Late for work? Possible issues with clients. Generally shit that isn't worth the trouble. Instead he cooperates and just leaves it to deal with later *because it is not important to him*. Taking a grand stand in every situation is not the sign of a "winner" it's the sign of an idiot with too much time on his hands.
 

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Didn't this game had a harem tag Before, did the developers remove the tag or I just imagining things
 
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