- In their Discord a consensus was reached: that despite everything they are in favor of keeping the policeman in the story... Well, the discussion is there for anyone who wants to read it.
- Here in the pirate community, and from what I've been reading these days, the conclusion is the opposite.
Having said that, are you sure that I'm making some claims based on nothing on saying that it is foolish to think that the devs will lose support by "ignoring" those who want the cop out of the story, as
And I'm really tired of reading discussions about Glenn so I'll stop, but come on the devs aren't going to lose any support for that decision, in fact their income is increasing since the update came out (obviously not thanks of the cop xD but making it clear that his addition doesn't affect the potential patrons at all).
No one actually claimed that the Dev would lose Patreon supporters. The claim was that if continuing the Glenn path it could hurt the game and cause people to walk away from the project. That point has already been validated if you have been paying as close attention to the thread as you claim. When analyzing this you need to keep future supporters in mind. Not just current supporters whom are already invested. People who invest in something tend to be more forgiving versus people who haven't. But future Steam sales could easily be affected by this, as well as people who would otherwise have subscribed as a Patreon.
Yeah it should be easy to remove him now, but they don't want to because they don't want to change the original script they have in mind, and in discord many of their patrons are in favor of keeping him even though almost nobody liked his addition so that's it. And I'm with all of you, I don't want him in the story but hey if he has to be... bad luck for us.
Yeah, they can't change their script because it would change too much and make a lot more work. Which really means that Glenn is as every bit something that will be annoying and intrusive as everyone thought so when we are told it's a nothing burger. It's literally lying to our faces.
Also, i would bet that Glenn ends up injuring the MC in some way, repeating a mistake already made before in Polarity.
The thing is, it is irrelevant if Glenn Arc is as bad as we think, because the problem is that its already bad for the story and that wont change, the best possible outcome is that it gets taken out quickly, and then it would have been a waste of valuable time and resources for nothing
So here we have someone who has played Polarity and sees the same potential garbage that I do. For a character we shouldn't worry about the ramifications are severe and i don't care if it ends up a "
We almost lost Daddy so now Maddie is showing her feelings more Arc." Or anything similar. None of that gooie goodness that SirD wants us to see and feel later on matters because like stated above the Immersion of how we got there is terrible. The Entire Glenn Arc is just bad. It can't be fixed moving forward because the Immersion is already killed.
To be fair, there are stories out there of off-duty cops harassing their neighbours, and there was that prolific one a couple of years ago of Amber Guyger who shot and killed her neighbor Botham Jean for no reason, but it is actually against police regulations to wield their power when off-duty and it's therefore technically illegal. So right there, the MC has a potentially swift resolution by either reporting them or even just asking to see their warrant card which an off-duty cop would't have on them and effectively making them powerless.
The Police Chief works directly under the City Administration and City Council. The rest of the officers work directly under the Chief. A year budget is set for the police by the council, the chief organizes it and makes requests on what they desire each item for that budget should be. The County Attorney and in larger cities a City Prosecutor is in charge of court cases and legal proceedings. Their Budget has been set and needs approval to go over. None of these people will dedicate their budget to fighting people with money if some huge crime wasn't committed and even then they approach it cautiously. So yeah there might be stories out there where police officers are dick around their neighbors but not in situations like this.
The swiftness isn't going to happen. That's why so many of us are dreading Glenn. As far as logic goes. SirD has no comprehension of legality, how law enforcement works, or anything else related to the matters that he chooses to write about and doesn't take the time to look it up or even care. His police end up being something similar to cops from a soap opera. That's not my opinion that's a fact. Go play Polarity and tell me. I'm wrong.
About the cop, the things that is wrong is how he was introduced, no one would give their id or anything to a guy that says he is a "cop" without showing his badge and without you doing anything illegal and what is worse being in your property, so it was a bad writen character, people gave the criticism, and they still ignore it, because they have plans for him, but also says that he isn't that importat to the story, so consider me confused.
Rightfully so. Because he is an important character. His sole purpose is to bring people closer together somehow. But since Glenn isn't a believable character, whatever pay off they were aiming for isn't going to be as meaningful to everyone. Several of us are still going to think it could have been handled a lot better.
As for hiring someone else, right now they earn around $6k between them with around $5k coming from this game and the rest being made up from their own games.
When split, that's around $3k each, especially when you factor in that Patreon takes a 30% cut from content creators, giving them a yearly salary of around $34-35k which is about the median income level and just barely liveable with, particularly in the US where I believe they both are. So they really can't afford someone else and would probably need to increase the funding overall to at least $9k to be able to afford another person.
As for the cop, yes, he was introduced in a poor way and his actions certainly seem outlandish, but we have to keep in mind 2 things:
- This is a porn game and as such they tend to work on different logic from what we do in the real world, and there are games out there that take it to the extreme edges of believability, yet are immensely popular despite that. This cop aspect stretches believability a bit, but it's not as bad as many other games.
- We are still very early on in this game and there is plenty of time to right the ship and for things that are as jarring and seemingly out of place as this to improve and be resolved in a satisfactory way, so all we can really do is give it time and hope for the best.
I actually agree with you here. They can't afford to higher more help. Something people forget is these games cost a lot of.money to make as well, so you can probably half that 3k to about 1.5k each, after all there is hardware/software expenses as well as asset expenses. So in reality they aren't actually making that much. But like I said before they won't improve those odds if they keep their eyes shut.
About 2, the introduction to Glenn needs to be redone for him to have any positive meaning to the game later on. OR they need to smack Glenn with reality for his actions when the MC finally decides to do something about it. I doubt either was in their plans.
Seriously, play 200+ of these VNs/games like I have and you'll find that there's not a lot of realism in them and there are lots of side characters, antagonist characters, etc, who behave in ways that seem very unrealistic and then go read the comments and you'll find that most people don't give a fuck because, as long as the main LIs are hot and are given decent characterisation, then that's all that matters to most folks.
Yeah I agree there are a lot of bad games and stories out there that aren't immersing. And I dislike the majority of them. Not all but the majority.
See Immersion is an important part of a story. And it doesn't mean that the story MUST match reality. It means that the story must be believable. If I lived in this world would I believe in it? And right now the answer is no. If MC wasn't as well off as he is, that would actually change things significantly. At that point, I could believe in Officer Glenn's reaction to MC and I could believe that there wouldn't be a negative outcome for his behavior. But I also didn't set the stage. They did and they set it against the story they wanted to tell and it breaks Immersion.
In the discord, you got amigos that say yes to everything the dev says and don't offer criticism, and if they do, the devs tell them to just wait a bit to see more and they are on board with everything they do and forget about the criticism they offered, so maybe the dev based the way the MC complied to the cop in his interactions with his fanboys on discord, now all makes sense
Yup, and once you move on from discord and Patreon to places like Steam. A rude awakening is coming.
