PaxHadrian17

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As you are aware, I've been trying to drum up interest in a Radiant fan-art thread. But since I would only be a cheerleader rather than an actual leader, I would prefer if someone else would start such a thread.
The best possible outcome would be if Alorth would start that thread. Could you please try to contact him via DM/PM/Discord/etc. to find out if he would start such a thread?

If all else fails, I will start such a thread myself.

TIA
Sure - I'll send a DM and see what he/they (Alorth and Sir Damned - not trying for the pronoun police...) say.
 
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I come back from time to time to see whats new in here. But all i find are almost fights, i ignore you because you have another opinion, sensless discussions and complains. its fun killing and kind of sad

When i read all this complains in here. I honestly think its wasted time and energy and not worth to bomb the F95 full within this thread. If it makes you feel better...ok.
But when i look at the stats of RK Studios then im sure they dont care about this complainings as long as there not going down to 2K or 3K a month- Right now, even if they lost a few percent overall and if we calculate the 16% Patreon fee (i heard) and after taxes is that still a good income they generate and they dont have to worry. And Alorth is generating on his Patreon also around 4,2K.
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In my opinion. Its just a game and not life saving, necessary or whatever. Who the f*** cares if the update needs longer or not.
 
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I come back from time to time to see whats new in here. But all i find are almost fights, i ignore you because you have another opinion, sensless discussions and complains. its fun killing and kind of sad

When i read all this complains in here. I honestly think its wasted time and energy and not worth to bomb the F95 full within this thread. If it makes you feel better...ok.
But when i look at the stats of RK Studios then im sure they dont care about this complainings as long as there not going down to 2K or 3K a month- Right now, even if they lost a few percent overall and if we calculate the 16% Patreon fee (i heard) and after taxes is that still a good income they generate and they dont have to worry. And Alorth is generating on his Patreon also around 4,2K.
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In my opinion. Its just a game and not life saving, necessary or whatever. Who the f*** cares if the update needs longer or not.
Nobody said it was lifesaving. You're just putting up another strawman. And yes, the fact that the devs don't care, "got your money" is one of the key points. And the source of much amusement. You're about as amusing as the retard still wearing masks. And just as conspicuous.
 

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I understand what you are saying and Radiant exhibits poor communication and release consistency (both in terms of updates and monthlies/teasers).

The people who have the right to call them out on this - and expect a response - are their supporters.

This thread has a tendency to become an echo chamber filled with a lot of negativity - much of it from those who are not paying any $ for what they take.

People can complain away on F95 about what a dev should/should not do - But the constant telling me how to spend my $ is Always No Go territory for me.

I've recommended to the devs that they hire someone to review F95 comments and give them a summary of what is helpful, but to otherwise avoid this thread because their time is better spent doing almost Anything else.

Reading the endless criticism found here will Not help with creativity or the drive to get better - especially when those with skin in the game - supporters who pay $ - will give the devs the meal they are looking for - a main course of honest feedback, but without a few side dishes of vitriol.

Cheers! :coffee:
The people that have the right to complain about the speed of development are those with skin in the game. (I.e. paying patrons)

I think this is a fairly reasonable position to take.

The people that have the right to eyeroll and make fun of bad excuses deployed by certain developers is pretty much everyone.

*Especially* when it's the conveniently vague 'health issues' excuse. I swear, 'AVN dev' is apparently on the same level as underwater welders, offshore oil workers, and coal miners when it comes to dangerous occupations. :rolleyes:
 
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The people that have the right to complain about the speed of development are those with skin in the game. (I.e. paying patrons)

I think this is a fairly reasonable position to take.

The people that have the right to eyeroll and make fun of bad excuses deployed by certain developers is pretty much everyone.

*Especially* when it's the conveniently vague 'health issues' excuse. I swear, 'AVN dev' is apparently on the same level as underwater welders, offshore oil workers, and coal miners when it comes to dangerous occupations. :rolleyes:
Unless he broke both hands or got severe eye problems that result in extreme headaches when looking at computer screens.
blood clot in the brain or a stroke or something like that can do that would be good reasons. I had issues with an eye once and I couldn't look at my screen with that eye for about 2 weeks, luckily I have 2 eyes, so I closed one and used the other. I know I am a genius...
No illness I've ever had in my life has ever made me not be able to be in front of the PC though, just the eye related one would have if I got it in both, that's it. So it has to be something very serious.

No wait Corona made me bedridden for a day. I slept it off and was back in front of the PC roughly a day later. Things tasting odd for a month or so was the worst.
 

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Everyone has the rigth of complain until certain point, you can not like a game an complain about that regardless if you pay for the game or not and you can complain of certain attitude of the devs if you want, the thing here gets annoying when is the same group of persons who post the same thing over and over. We know that you don't like the game or the devs it was enough with saying that one time you don't have to post the same thing over and over. That's when any complain becomes anoying
 
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The people that have the right to complain about the speed of development are those with skin in the game. (I.e. paying patrons)

I think this is a fairly reasonable position to take.

The people that have the right to eyeroll and make fun of bad excuses deployed by certain developers is pretty much everyone.

*Especially* when it's the conveniently vague 'health issues' excuse. I swear, 'AVN dev' is apparently on the same level as underwater welders, offshore oil workers, and coal miners when it comes to dangerous occupations. :rolleyes:
'The right?" What are you, Joe Biden? I'll bet you have plenty of pirated stuff at home you've shit on (movies, software, etc), aka you didn't pay for it. Or like you're paying for every game on here that you've discussed (yeah right). And yes, personally I'm at the point where I'm making fun of people still paying for this. And who either believe this guy's excuses (which says a lot) or pretend they don't care because of their ego (which again says a lot). Also I'd be willing to bet at least some of the people going "uh you can't complain if you're not paying" are not paying either. Call it life experience. Also on kemono I've seen posts from guys who were making animations and who when they got sick they paused the billing. Which I doubt this guy will ever do or ever did.
 

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'The right?" What are you, Joe Biden? I'll bet you have plenty of pirated stuff at home you've shit on (movies, software, etc), aka you didn't pay for it. Or like you're paying for every game on here that you've discussed (yeah right). And yes, personally I'm at the point where I'm making fun of people still paying for this. And who either believe this guy's excuses (which says a lot) or pretend they don't care because of their ego (which again says a lot). Also I'd be willing to bet at least some of the people going "uh you can't complain if you're not paying" are not paying either. Call it life experience. Also on kemono I've seen posts from guys who were making animations and who when they got sick they paused the billing. Which I doubt this guy will ever do or ever did.
You have indirectly found THE problem : recurring billing.
Three routes : (1) Buymeacoffee--direct pay as you go ; (2) become a monthly subscriber after an update, then stop future payments ; (3) just don't ever pay--there is just too much porn stuff chasing too few $ and I'd bet my net worth there is a higher percentage of scumbag porn creators than "leeches".

First things first. Boycott Patreon for their censorship. Completely.
Extreme circumstances call for extreme measures.
But please try to direct your displeasure at people outside our community. True, quite a few Devs may have been corrupted by the "easy" money. But scrap recurring billing! Way different environment...
 
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'The right?" What are you, Joe Biden? I'll bet you have plenty of pirated stuff at home you've shit on (movies, software, etc), aka you didn't pay for it. Or like you're paying for every game on here that you've discussed (yeah right). And yes, personally I'm at the point where I'm making fun of people still paying for this. And who either believe this guy's excuses (which says a lot) or pretend they don't care because of their ego (which again says a lot). Also I'd be willing to bet at least some of the people going "uh you can't complain if you're not paying" are not paying either. Call it life experience. Also on kemono I've seen posts from guys who were making animations and who when they got sick they paused the billing. Which I doubt this guy will ever do or ever did.
Not sure who pulled your tail, but I'm a pirate on a pirate site. At no point did I claim otherwise, so it seems you're projecting there.

And yet, i still dont complain about the speed of development, because it cost me nothing.

The worst thing i can say is that i didnt get free shit. Oh well.

As to the later part about billing, i dont disagree, but im also not paying, so i dont have a horse in that race.
 

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Not sure who pulled your tail, but I'm a pirate on a pirate site. At no point did I claim otherwise, so it seems you're projecting there.

And yet, i still dont complain about the speed of development, because it cost me nothing.

The worst thing i can say is that i didnt get free shit. Oh well.

As to the later part about billing, i dont disagree, but im also not paying, so i dont have a horse in that race.
Complaining about the development time is not really on my plate as a pirate; however, lampooning the Devs, the lame excuses they give to their patrons, and the idiocy of the patrons for continuing to ply them with cash, is fair game in my mind. So I do those things from time to time and have fun with it. :cool:;):ROFLMAO:
 

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Complaining about the development time is not really on my plate as a pirate; however, lampooning the Devs, the lame excuses they give to their patrons, and the idiocy of the patrons for continuing to ply them with cash, is fair game in my mind. So I do those things from time to time and have fun with it. :cool:;):ROFLMAO:
This guy gets it. Some of the roasts in here are funny as hell.
Case in point
https://f95zone.to/threads/radiant-v0-5-alpha-rk-studios.49572/post-11058497
 
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Reading through this thread isn't a fun time for anybody. At this point, I doubt Radiant will ever generate enough positivity for this to be a good place to have discussions about the game. Even when updates are released there are people that immediately shit on the devs, and it's hard to completely dismiss their cynicism when the update cycle is so frustrating. I think people would be far more understanding if they:

1. Started releasing updates faster like they keep saying they're going to do

2. Were more transparent with their progress (the current status tracker is a joke)

3. Added some depth to the story so people would have something to speculate about/discuss other than how long the wait for new content is

4. Stopped billing people while unforeseen delays are happening

I highly doubt they care what the people in this thread think about them or their game though. Why fix what isn't broken?
 
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