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Yeah 6 sucks because of that unnecessary grinding. But y'know what's worse?
Fucking 8. My god- it was seriously a good game. Great story, intro to best girl Reset.
But holy shit that gameplay is so god-awful that you could skip it and not miss anything.
9 so far- is a good balance. It's not quite Utawarerumono that it takes up hours but just enough of gameplay that you don't feel like vomiting or getting a headache.
The best types are really 5D and 1 remake where it's fast and easy to play.
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Rafalia got retconned out of existence
cheat engine made 6/8 much better games for me
I gave all my favorite characters a ton of stamina lol
RQ needed a bigger exp multiplier than the x2 tada gave, I made it x4. Maybe x3 is the sweet spot but I just wanted to game/story w/o grinding. I really liked 9 though. I wish the combat was a little more challenging on the first playthrough and that the hoverfort upgrades weren't stupidly expensive. The only game I didn't like was 5D, but the story was fun and short at least.
- Mar 9, 2018
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Yeah, they did her dirty, and it's a shame, since the whole "competition" angle with Tilde just doesn't work: nobody else is in competition with her about anything at all. It's all in her head (and we already got Miracle for that kind of autistic bullshit). With Rafalia and Arlcoate that was actually a thing, real competition between hot military academy girls. They should have expanded on that, because competing girls is a great premise for all kinds of lewd shit (and a great, natural game mechanic to make a meaningful choice, instead of having these random, tacked on shit routes...). Shame, really, since with Rafalia we lost so much more than just her.
Well, at least they didn't fuck up the whole Kalar/Pastel/Reset arc in Rance Quest. That was great. And to come back to the topic, I don't think IX did well in this regard. The whole hoverfort thing was the dumbest idea ever. And while Russian is kind of nice, it's also a disservice to the whole Helman/Pamela/Sheila/Stessel love triangle. Then there's too much focus on Mineva throughout all(?) the routes, and the routes are tacked on bullshit anyways. And what they did to my sweet flower girl wasn't very good either. (kind of fun, comparing all that stuff coming from Kichikuou Rance, with stuff that got expanded/elaborated on, and other pieces that simply got massacred for no fucking reason at all).
It's funny, IX is about 4/5 VN and about 1/5 actual gameplay, and I consider the VN part of IX one of the worst out of all the rance games. It's not very funny other than maybe one scene, or the other, three tops. And it's not very engaging or interesting or whatever. Collapse of Zeth had the whole Urza arc/development and that alone beats all of IX shenanigans easily. Quest had Sachiko CENTERS, SHIELD guy and a HERO, funniest shit, oh, and the greatest pope, croock, maybe ever. Not even to start with Pastel and Reset...
And IX? It's just not there, anywhere, at all. Mediocre at best. The gameplay is barebone, lazy, boring crap. The going 3D bullshit has also been completed with IX. Rance Quests dungeon scrolling was already bad in this regard, but at least the fights still had the protagonists as cute and sexy 2D sprites. Now it's all ugly 3D. And I hate it. IX is easily the worst and most lazy - reused CG galore, cheap facial pieces slapped on the same sprites and it looks terrible,
, those fucking pubes, aaahhhh... - rance game in a long time, but sure, I'm cutting the older games lots of slack here. At least they're all still very charming. IX will never be. It's trash.The sex was also mostly bad, same old virgin fuckery with lots and lots of dry vaginas, pain and suffering and no idea how to sex. Freya was the only pro at this, had one scene and didn't enjoy it much anyways since it's a waste of time or what not. WHERE THE FUCK WERE KATYUSHA AND SAULINA? Those could have easily improved this uneven sex balance. But nope, not there. Proceed to go fuck another virgin who doesn't know, nor enjoys the sex. This is just a failure for an eroge, even if it's Rance, you know?
...next up gacha madness in X. I'm sure this is gonna be totally fine... uhu...
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but then again Tilde belongs to the streets. man i gotta give 8 a play then if you're praising it this much despite trashing 9. it won't be a while, since Kanojo no Seiiki is gonna be released very soon. no idea how was rance 9 got its reception in the japanese audience (assuming not great) and perhaps that's why 10 became the final game. the writers are getting more mature and can no longer write the assholery of rance.
for a war story imo its good. not the best. though I'd agree that this shouldn't have been a rance game and rolex should have been the mc.It's funny, IX is about 4/5 VN and about 1/5 actual gameplay, and I consider the VN part of IX one of the worst out of all the rance games. It's not very funny other than maybe one scene, or the other, three tops. And it's not very engaging or interesting or whatever. Collapse of Zeth had the whole Urza arc/development and that alone beats all of IX shenanigans easily. Quest had Sachiko CENTERS, SHIELD guy and a HERO, funniest shit, oh, and the greatest pope, croock, maybe ever. Not even to start with Pastel and Reset...
And IX? It's just not there, anywhere, at all. Mediocre at best. The gameplay is barebone, lazy, boring crap. The going 3D bullshit has also been completed with IX. Rance Quests dungeon scrolling was already bad in this regard, but at least the fights still had the protagonists as cute and sexy 2D sprites. Now it's all ugly 3D. And I hate it. IX is easily the worst and most lazy - reused CG galore, cheap facial pieces slapped on the same sprites and it looks terrible,
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well, yeah. And don't get me wrong, it's not like I dislike Tilde and her inner monologue and motivation is fun. The problem is that her character basically killed off the military academy competition arc and became somewhat a mixed bag of a character: that competition thing isn't hers and she doesn't need it. Just make her a total slut that uses sex for her gains and shenanigans (that don't necessarily lead anywhere other than whoring herself out). That's great, focus on that. And then you could have a military academy sidestory in IX from which you get lots of lewd competition shenanigans (playing girls out against each other is always fun) and ultimately to pick your favorite char out of a bunch, or just two, or whatever. You get great plot, great chars, lewd and funny shit, replayability since you might wanna try out all of the available military academy girls, and basically it's just a win-win for VN and gameplay purposes alike. And they blew it.
Leila was also greatly underused, and why not some Royal Guards shenanigans too (who might have accompanied her on the visit to Rance or what not). Or have some side-missions with her together with Rick. Not enough of such tie-ins that yield fun VN and gameplay... IX could and should have been much bigger, and that's first and foremost a question/problem of writing. I just feel you could have easily made so much more out of Helman. What about some Kalar forest/village plot and gameplay? All we got was a quick cutscene as Aristoteles escaped there to die and that's it. Lame. I could go on and on...
Rance Quest had me from the get-go: Sachiko Senters is just such a great character and wonderful together with Rance. The lewd barmaid is another example for the hilarious writing, it's just fun all the way, carried by all the great chars (so many) and their interactions which make the game so much bigger than IX. I also enjoyed the gameplay way more than IX. Some think it's too grindy, especially if you wanna level up all the rare treasure weapons (by getting rid of them, one by one, and finding them all over again, slightly improved but only maybe since perks are random, so you might wanna reroll the final version...) and that kind of shit. Naturally, you don't really have to do that.
Nah, but it certainly would have been an idea/option to have multiple chapters from different perspectives: first you play a bit Patton and gang, then you play a bit Rolex and such, then a bit Cream, or Leylu and who not, and then Rance of course, for all of them to come together in the following chapters, where you start to be able to play them together and such. Make decisions which teams/parts actually get to join up with the Revolution camp (opportunity cost decisions are always great; something Alicesoft once knew very well, but they devolved ever since instead of getting better...), have dynamic interactions where chars learn new skills depending on who comes together, .... I mean, really, getting the option - once you finish the game - to swap out certain chars for a bunch of bonus chars is just a slap in the face. Can it get any cheaper and more unmotivated than this? LAME. And why make a cursed bloodsucker boink killer out of my sweet flower girl? What's the point?
But yes, the writing is the problem. It's just not good enough, especially not in the bigger picture. I feel like they just had to pull some kind of Pastel/Reset stunt (emotionally) to latch on to that success and hence you get that dumb rewritten story twist with Russian that is actually the princess and from there, everything went down the shitter. No, wait. Mistake number one was the Hoverfort. Mistake number two was Russian. The latter just totally derailed the whole thing and set (yet another) wrong focus that might be emotionally and sexually satisfying, but doesn't serve the story/VN, nor the gameplay.
And what also irks me, there is simply nothing clever/interesting going on in IX. Older games, Sengoku and Kichikuou in particular, were full of that stuff. Unique little tricks, twists and (game) mechanics all over the place. But even Rance Quest has plenty of this, from a maso tank girl that gains more HP the more she dies (and becomes a HP monster in the process), a char that just goes home during a mission because fuck you, unique fun shit all over the place. Chars that get perks if deployed together. Chars that get worse if deployed together... What has IX to offer? Absolutely nothing.
Oh, and you wanna know what Rance Quest also had that IX is mostly lacking? HANNIES! IX hannies are just decoration and as such, a joke. Might as well just not be in the game at all. Where is the hanny subplot? Fucking hell. That's always the most important part! There is just no love in IX.
I finally beat this game and man was it enjoyable. Most of the routes were easy, except Senhime's route... Fuck her route. It was the most annoying and rage inducing route just because of the first 2 battles in her route. Other than that, all the other routes were fun.
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No, it was not. Go play some Kichikuou Rance. Aquire proper taste and get some perspective.
It's just so much more satisfying.
So much better.
(Daily reminder that those faggots deliberately nerfed Nagi with that going insane and monster transformation bullshit because she was clearly winning and shizu sucked way too hard. mfw trading nagi for dumb shizu and doing her every single night for 8 experience points. GAHAHAHAHA)
In every single way...
I mean, can you imagine? Even Magic was hot. Magic! Yeah. The Gandhi.
So much... SOUL. No wait, that's Anasel.
In front of the S&M Tower. GAHAHAHAHAHA.
That's how you do lewd scenes. Senhimes scenes from IX are just a boring failure in comparison.
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Techinically neither is any playtrough of rance games after sixth as you can not do what rance did lore wise by doing allroutes at same time without interferenceand some other changes too. Theese things are just assumed to be done in next games even when it was not possible to play it that way. Sadness
IMO this was the 2nd best game in the series, only behind Sengoku and just barely over 6. If it wasn't for 6's SP and orbs mechanic I probably would have it 2nd best out of the ones I've played/remember. I do want to play Kichikou Rance, never played it cause I didn't realize it had been translated until after this game came out and I wanted to finish this before playing any other.
Whilst I agree that Senhime scenes and most of IX h scenes are wayyyy too vanilla and boring. (the writing's just shit)
Can you roughly explain what's so good about Kichikuou Rance? And why it's worth it?
This question coming from a guy who's played MOST of the Rance franchise except for the really old stuff.
Because let's be honest, the old stuff looks bad.
Though I'll give it to you that Magic looks pretty hot in Kichikuou, especially when compared to forehead Magic in canon Rance
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I just wanna give a warning to y'all fellow Rance enjoyers that you should probably skip the bad endings for Rance IX.
This game takes the Dohna Dohna approach of 90% of the game being fairly vanilla then the devs went-
let's torture our heroines for the fun of it in the bad endings.
As a sadist who gets absolutely rock-hard to torture and when playing Dohna Dohna, masturbate relentlessly to the bad ends when the girls get tortured and murdered, even this shit in IX was too much for me.
After some deep retrospection as to why there's such a tremendous difference between getting turned when Porno, Kikuchiyo and Alyce are tortured even though I spent most of the time enjoying their presense.
And getting absolutely remorseful and suffering from heart-ache upon seeing Kanami get treated so horribly, I figured out why.
It's cos Rance is a great game. Over the course of the series, I slowly grew fond of Kanami even though she's fictional, I felt 'Tomoyo After' levels of depression after seeing Kanami- a girl who the devs spent so much time building to be best girl and then rip it all to pieces with the bad end.
Whereas in Dohna Dohna, I seriously could not give a flying fuck about those fictional characters.
Now I'm depressed because of sad Kanami. Just consider it a warning. Don't look at the bad end.
But fuck Tilde. Grab some popcorn for her bad end. She totally deserved it. And everyone else's bad ending were pretty cool.
Gives some perspective on how differently Rance views the girls. But Kanami tho... broke mah hart
This game takes the Dohna Dohna approach of 90% of the game being fairly vanilla then the devs went-
let's torture our heroines for the fun of it in the bad endings.
As a sadist who gets absolutely rock-hard to torture and when playing Dohna Dohna, masturbate relentlessly to the bad ends when the girls get tortured and murdered, even this shit in IX was too much for me.
After some deep retrospection as to why there's such a tremendous difference between getting turned when Porno, Kikuchiyo and Alyce are tortured even though I spent most of the time enjoying their presense.
And getting absolutely remorseful and suffering from heart-ache upon seeing Kanami get treated so horribly, I figured out why.
It's cos Rance is a great game. Over the course of the series, I slowly grew fond of Kanami even though she's fictional, I felt 'Tomoyo After' levels of depression after seeing Kanami- a girl who the devs spent so much time building to be best girl and then rip it all to pieces with the bad end.
Whereas in Dohna Dohna, I seriously could not give a flying fuck about those fictional characters.
Now I'm depressed because of sad Kanami. Just consider it a warning. Don't look at the bad end.
But fuck Tilde. Grab some popcorn for her bad end. She totally deserved it. And everyone else's bad ending were pretty cool.
Gives some perspective on how differently Rance views the girls. But Kanami tho... broke mah hart
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if you gonna go NG++ Amitos is really huge there cause of 4 stars boost which is 350% of her wep damage to single target - without her it would be struggle to hit bosses.
The real fucked part of IX is that almost all reset scenes are tied behind new game + or the alternate endings/true-true ending.
Patton better fuck hunty already. If she has a red crystal next time we see her I'm going to be sad.
also yeah the magic redesign from KR to VI lol, yuck
Patton better fuck hunty already. If she has a red crystal next time we see her I'm going to be sad.
also yeah the magic redesign from KR to VI lol, yuck
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Exactly. Also the pubes. Holy shit. Those fucking pubes...
It's simply 100% undiluted peak rance, the ultimate Rance. Fun, full of love, rape and excellent writing (that knows it's telling its story within a game, and not as a linear novel). The easiest way to judge this is by looking at all the subplots that seem to be important, but don't go anywhere at all. Like Yamanaka Kojika trying to restore the Amago clan in Sengoku Rance, or the fucking Hanny march towards your capitol. Stupid shit like that. It's hilarious. Needless to say, Kichikuou Rance also got plenty of that kind of shit going on, the best example maybe being the relationship and correspondence (via cute demon apostles Kaybnyan and Kaybwan) between Kayblis and Camilla. There is just nothing dumb and funny like that in IX (lame!). At all. And I thought the "hanni subplot" was long since a staple of Rance games...
There are just 3 territories/cities that make up Japan. Sengoku (clearly) expanded and improved that part of the story by a lot, and so good. The alicist church got one territory/city, there is no Crook, instead Rance will do that part himself, which is great too. The original Sachiko Centers is already here, formerly known as Mokomoko. The Kalar forest just counts as "dungeon". Rance Quest expanded and improved these parts of the story by a lot. The three big territories (other than the monster realm) in Kichikuou are Leazas (plus Free Cities), Zeth, and then Helman, which is big. And you get a really fair chunk of the whole Helman rebellion. IX doesn't add or expand much, it just fucks around, and not even in a good way.
Where Sengoku and Rance Quest took a "chapter" of Kichikuou and made it bigger and better, that's simply not the case with IX. And for this alone, as a proper IX replacement, it's worth playing already.
Finally, let's quickly talk about the gameplay. The game just throws you into the bandit phase and you will probably still be slightly confused and/or irritated by the time you make it to Leazas (at least I was, playing this for the first time). I think it's a question of expectations/mindset. The game isn't really about grand strategy or (RPG) fights, it's about decision making and also bit of a puzzler. And as such, you totally shouldn't be afraid to "save scum", that's the wrong term and mindset to begin with. I believe the idea here is to explore every single turn as much until you're content with your move, and then you proceed. This may, or may not involve reloading a few times to see what happens if you do this, or that (for example there are always plenty of options/locations available that wont do anything at all/good for you at the time, but the game will not indicate this, and your actionpoint for the turn is gone anyways...). You're just not going to beat this by simply playing turn for turn without ever looking at the options you have (which involves a fair bit of replaying the same turn). It's just part of the experience and made very clear (that it is indeed a bit of a puzzle game in this sense) once you invade the monster realm, since all demons have alternative/special ways to kill them off.
I do suggest to first read a guide, but only the parts about the game mechanics, parameters and such (there's no tutorial or anything in the game, and it might really take a while figuring out how to do a rance attack on your own...). Don't follow a walkthrough (or at least not too closely), but play it as described a bit like a puzzle game, and it should be one hell of a ride.
The really old pixel Rance games aren't that sexy, true, but Kichikuou Rance still looks splendid (and always will). The map is great. The sprites are great. The lewd images are also great (and much better, as in more competent, objectively speaking, than cheap IX pubes unless you just don't dig that older char style). Just the fights are a little bit clunky due to the lack of any animation, but they still look great, especially when Miki goes BOOOOOOOMMM, holy shit.
It's just odd to me what they did to Magic. Absolutely ruined, and not just the looks.
Oh, oh, and the Lia (and Maris) shenanigans are the best (the whole situation with Rance being King/married to Lia is just golden).
Lia alone is plenty of reason to play Kichikuou. Make sure to build that S&M tower. gahahahaha.
