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Steam is super acessible to buy games. Lots of payment methods and if you are afraid your friends/family will see your game history just set it to private of create a secondary account just for this.

Really, short of not having the money there isn't really any excuse to not support on steam.
I have the money, but a) I don't like Valve much and b) I'd rather play on my phone, which the Steam version doesn't help with, AFAIK.
 

♍VoidTraveler

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there isn't really any excuse to not support on steam.
Lots of "excuses" actually, to name a few:
1. Gabe became useless fatass.
2. Valve became useless corrupt corp.

I'm not giving them a cent anymore.
But other sheep will continue to support them anyway so i get that my "rebellion" means nothing in the end.
Still, it's a matter of principle.
If someone is interested in the topic of Valve, watch this guy:
He explains everything well enough.
 

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The dev has expressed wanting to post the full game to Itch.io so that will be another way to get it when and if it happens. Also donating to patreon and SubscribeStar is another way, I recommend Subscribestar over Patreon. Speaking of which Hopefully the Team were able to handle the Patreon situation.
 

Wallsfalldown

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Lots of "excuses" actually, to name a few:
1. Gabe became useless fatass.
2. Valve became useless corrupt corp.

I'm not giving them a cent anymore.
But other sheep will continue to support them anyway so i get that my "rebellion" means nothing in the end.
Still, it's a matter of principle.
If someone is interested in the topic of Valve, watch this guy:
He explains everything well enough.
Imagine calling others sheep then linking fucking Act Man. Pot, meet kettle.
 

MSGTNP

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Is the guide outdated to the game? In the guide, It says you get to speak to Adeline in her chambers yet the moment you free her, the game comes to a end.
 

gregers

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Is the guide outdated to the game? In the guide, It says you get to speak to Adeline in her chambers yet the moment you free her, the game comes to a end.
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Public version ends with end of Act IV (see the highlighted section above). The opening of Act V is in the Steam version.
 

MSGTNP

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Had no idea there was even a steam version for this. I usually only touch this one a year since progress is slow.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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The dev has expressed wanting to post the full game to Itch.io so that will be another way to get it when and if it happens. Also donating to patreon and SubscribeStar is another way, I recommend Subscribestar over Patreon. Speaking of which Hopefully the Team were able to handle the Patreon situation.
Better to donate on subscribestar, it seems patreon is being really anal with the censorship. According to their discord channel they want the devs to also censor Steam/subscribestar versions. Devs themselves are asking people to start migrating from patreon to subscribestar.
 
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Because everyone uses patreon. This is why youtube, facebook and twitter dominate the market, not because they are the best but because they are the largest. Nobody uses smaller platforms, because no-one uses them. Easy! Subscribestar is a step towards right direction, but because they are Russian company (please correct me if I am wrong) it can be banned at any moment when it starts endangering the dominating market position of patreon, you know the usual Russian sanctions.
Bitcoin option is always available, but for some reason team ravager doesn't use it. You know, it doesn't anything to open a bitcoin account and put the address on game's main page. Bitcoin is unbannable, uncensorable and is guaranteed increasing its market value. My initial saving has been growth 10x (since late 2018) and after the second 10x growth that will take place in 2-3 years I will retire for good. I keep bringing this up from time to time, the bitcoin's logarithmic growth is public data, but for some reason people refuse to pay any attention. You can leave the system, but the majority doesn't want that. I guess that is why slavery exists - not because people are forced to be slaves but because they want an abusive master that will guarantee their minimal welfare.
Every 3 weeks i check this game for updates only to find another crackpot theory. Then i check the username and only then i known we're gonna be safe
 

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I really don't get why do most porn game/art creators still use patreon. Games like coc2 have been neutered in order to not get axed with their dogshit policies. I expect games like Claire's quest following suit.
- Well known
- Take the smallest cut compared to other sites
- Even when using SS, Steam etc, Patreon will always net you 10x more cash in the long run
- Your example with CoC2 is pretty bad since devs there really hate the fetishes that are already banned on patreon, so you were never gonna see them anyway.
 

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- Well known
- Take the smallest cut compared to other sites
- Even when using SS, Steam etc, Patreon will always net you 10x more cash in the long run
- Your example with CoC2 is pretty bad since devs there really hate the fetishes that are already banned on patreon, so you were never gonna see them anyway.
I really don't get the " because patreon is well known" for from my experience you won't find stuff that you might like there but from various other sites, only benefit i could think is that many already have an account there so they can become a patreon easier but if someone wants to support a project, the process of creating a new account in a other site is not that big of a deal in my eyes.
A lso the devs of coc2 openly disliking some fetishes is another excuse for them to refuse making a compromise that could get them kicked out of patreon.
 
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♍VoidTraveler

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Very interesting but since people rarely use the platform to discover new games (at least not Patreon/Subscribestar, maybe people discover games on Steam), it's less of a problem unless some people simply refuse to use another platform other than the one they are already using (Patreon probably).

Publishing on Subscribestar gives the developer freedom to publish whatever they want.
 

♍VoidTraveler

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since people rarely use the platform to discover new games
Indeed, places like f95 are FAR better for that.
people discover games on Steam
Yes on steam they do, i do some digging there myself on occasion.
unless some people simply refuse to use another platform
This problem exists on steam because people there already invested a lot of money into their steam accounts.
Not sure about other platforms. Epic store has the potential to become another steam eventually, for example.
Publishing on Subscribestar gives the developer freedom to publish whatever they want.
For now.
Nobody can guarantee that they won't become another patreon when they get more popular.
Patreon was great once too.

I would say that present-day indie devs should always have a backup plan in these turbulent times.
Because no matter how well things are going for you right now, the flow may change it's course at any moment.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Every 3 weeks i check this game for updates only to find another crackpot theory. Then i check the username and only then i known we're gonna be safe
This guys is always preaching about bitcoins. :ROFLMAO:
Doesn't he know how much they fuck up the environment?

About Subescribestar, it should get more popular while more and more people go there. Also they don't use paypal which was the cause of the issue with patreon some years ago if not mistaken.
 
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