lop333

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Yea, so far i've been a pretty cool dragon. A game has to give me a reason to be evil. I guess I'm "a betamalecuck who should only play femdom games." A quote from my sibling who is also playing this game and killing everyone he can.
Man that's some dum take for sure. There is nothing wrong with going the charm way especially when the characters are pretty nice. Going murder hobo kinda just blocks out of some nice events and interactions, then again there is nothing wrong with that too just dont impose how you play onto others. lol
 
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would at least once play the nice guy, just to know the outcome. then again, why should dragons care.
maybe tell that to that sibling? :D
 
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I don't understand why you took away the option to keep using the old portraits more options are always better, especially since the new one's aren't so great
 
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Our magnificent scene artist Lubbio isn't spending all of his time on remasters and Act V preparation. There's still a little room left over to expand our art for fate scenes, such as this lovely meeting between Heloise and various members of the pack.
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Maybe we'll be able to break her in in a later build. After all, it's hinted we might turn Maelys around as well... Unless her only route is to be a broken husk.
We already have two routes for Maelys.
If you made her join you and you have Heloise as consort you get a pretty hot threesome ;)
 

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We already have two routes for Maelys.
If you made her join you and you have Heloise as consort you get a pretty hot threesome ;)
And Maelys asks you to fuck her since Heloise seems to not have lost herself to it. And yet, if you give her what she asks you, she becomes an empty shell for you to fuck, while totally unresponsive.
The other main route being acting like the cruel monster she sees in you when she comes to end you, and locking her up like Val.
 

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Best girl is obviously Malice. Heloise is honorary best girl cause she made Malice ;)
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wait what? there is more than one way to get malice?
... also who is val?
And Maelys asks you to fuck her since Heloise seems to not have lost herself to it. And yet, if you give her what she asks you, she becomes an empty shell for you to fuck, while totally unresponsive.
feels bad. but I think dialog is hinting she will recover.
 

Rutonat

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wait what? there is more than one way to get malice?
... also who is val?
Valzira. The "witch" in the swamp. You can get her either by having the wolf pack and giving them the job to get her, or apparently by using Cuch's body for the ghosts in the swamp (but I guess you can't do it if you've already met the guy because it doesn't seem like you can meet him again after...?).

feels bad. but I think dialog is hinting she will recover.
Dunno, she seems really broken and you even get the option to apologize. Honestly this is heartbreaking.
 
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mrttao

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Valzira. The "witch" in the swamp. You can get her either by having the wolf pack and giving them the job to get her, or apparently by using Cuch's body for the ghosts in the swamp (but I guess you can't do it if you've already met the guy because it doesn't seem like you can meet him again after...?).
Oh, I was forced to give her up because I lair in the mountains. kinda forgot who she was there for a moment.

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Actually I have been intentionally avoiding lairing elsewhere because:
1. I am not willing to sacrifice any of my waifus (as each lair requires a different waifu to be sacrificed)
2. If I lair elsewhere I will get Val as a waifu, and then I will start thinking of her as a person or even a waifu, and then I won't be able to play the game anymore knowing I sacrificed her.
I am actively suppressing that memory that I did such a thing to avoid quitting the game.
 
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Bob Jared

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Oh, I was forced to give her up because I lair in the mountains. kinda forgot who she was there for a moment.

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Actually I have been intentionally avoiding lairing elsewhere because:
1. I am not willing to sacrifice any of my waifus (as each lair requires a different waifu to be sacrificed)
2. If I lair elsewhere I will get Val as a waifu, and then I will start thinking of her as a person or even a waifu, and then I won't be able to play the game anymore knowing I sacrificed her.
I am actively suppressing that memory that I did such a thing to avoid quitting the game.
Pretty sure you can get her and then just not hand her over to Malagar.
 

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I am not willing to sacrifice any of my waifus (as each lair requires a different waifu to be sacrificed)
You are not at all required to sacrifice a waifu to proceed with the game. Indeed, I have tested and it is possible to conquer the lands without having them pillaged and still collect every girl, all while disregarding your lair's faction. Though you likely will have to settle for mina being unhappy.


On the subject of Valzira - here is what may likely be an unpopular opinion: I really like her.
Her character has much in common with Naho who has plenty of fans so that makes her lack of more public appeal doubly puzzling for me. She's working the defiant "sound and fury" shtick marvelously, her speech is one of dignified contempt and those characters go a long way with me. Particularly the scene where she demonstrates willingness to suffer what is apparently unspeakable pain just to spite you. First time reading it, i was genuinely awed with the gutsy gamble with her own life in order to deny you, never relenting on the insults even in the throes of agony.

Love the "bound, but not broken" bit; attempts at appeasement, or threats are met with defiance, bile and disdain. Which brings to mind a very fitting quote: "Hatred is as good a thing as any to keep one going. Better than most"
That is not to say I advocate for her to become a consort option, though. Doing so would be breaking character. Valzira's appeal - sadly - also means that she cant fundamentally be cowed or reconciled with, and thats how it has to stay.
And thats alright - there are already plenty of characters who can be brought to MC's way of thinking, one way or another, and it's good to have one that wont compromise.
 
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