YouShallNotLol

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To be fair you're only a month older than her.
Actually thinking on it... Do we count the age of the man before he was turned into a dragon? :unsure:
Most basic concepts, like knowing the language and basic stuff about life, likely came from that previous life as a human. Since there was nobody to teach the dragon all of that.
 
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packor

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Dude, you are literally born wanting to already fuck, while Malice has no clue about sex and has shown no interest or understanding in it, you can see it when you leave one of the unhappy captives and she asks you about why are they imprisoned and you sort of dance around it - because she's a fucking child. You are not.
On top of that, Malice is clearly not a baby, she's born aged equivalent to about a 5 year old in human age. She can speak and asks lots of questions about the world, we can pretty confidently reason about her maturity.
And to add on another detail, you grow pretty naturally over time, while Malice accelerates her development through time-travel space-time fuckery, her suddenly turning into an adult is not something natural for her species if it makes any sense to reason about the nature of reality breaking abominations.
Still not a human. You don't know how fast they grow (mentally). You're trying to reason that she didn't mature just because she had to ask questions about things. It's not like the dragon grew up knowing things that it didn't know either. It's obvious that one wouldn't know since they had no experience. Born wanting to fuck is instinctive, and doesn't mean Mental maturity.
 

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Still not a human. You don't know how fast they grow (mentally). You're trying to reason that she didn't mature just because she had to ask questions about things. It's not like the dragon grew up knowing things that it didn't know either. It's obvious that one wouldn't know since they had no experience. Born wanting to fuck is instinctive, and doesn't mean Mental maturity.
You do know how fast they grow cause you can just talk to them, if she talks like a toddler she's a toddler. You don't actually have any of the child-like inquisitiveness about the world that Malice does, you sort of already know what to do, in the prologue when you escape you are entirely self sufficient.
To put it another way, what evidence is there that the dragon is a child at all? With Malice, you have plenty of moments where she's just a kid, but you never have any of those.
In the real world, a kitten in a year is already an adult cat. A human baby in a year is still a baby. So likewise, you mature the moment you leave your egg while Malice doesn't.
 

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You do know how fast they grow cause you can just talk to them, if she talks like a toddler she's a toddler. You don't actually have any of the child-like inquisitiveness about the world that Malice does, you sort of already know what to do, in the prologue when you escape you are entirely self sufficient.
To put it another way, what evidence is there that the dragon is a child at all? With Malice, you have plenty of moments where she's just a kid, but you never have any of those.
In the real world, a kitten in a year is already an adult cat. A human baby in a year is still a baby. So likewise, you mature the moment you leave your egg while Malice doesn't.
in her adult form, she talks like a... teenager? :unsure:

Edit: On the other hand, the dragon with their simple one liners sound more like the 5 year old here.
 
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in her adult form, she talks like a... teenager? :unsure:
I have never met a teenager that talks like Malice, lmfao. She's depraved and domineering, she could be in her 20s or in her 2000s for all we know. Teenagers tend to be awkward and insecure, more frequent use of slang and new vocabulary.

Edit: On the other hand, the dragon with their simple one liners sound more like the 5 year old here.
I have never heard a toddler talk like the dragon. Even babies tend to babble, rant on, mispronounce things. They don't say, very slowly, a single drawn-out word. It gives the vibes more that the dragon is a big lizard monster, his reptilian brain not yet adapted to understand language like humans do, more instinctive and untamed.
 

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I have never met a teenager that talks like Malice, lmfao. She's depraved and domineering, she could be in her 20s or in her 2000s for all we know. Teenagers tend to be awkward and insecure, more frequent use of slang and new vocabulary.
are you contradicting yourself or what? You said that if she talks like xxx, then she is xxx. So you're basically saying she's 20 or 2000.
 

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in her adult form, she talks like a... teenager? :unsure:
Even in her adult form, I'd give Malice 17 years tops.

I have never met a teenager that talks like Malice, lmfao. She's depraved and domineering, she could be in her 20s or in her 2000s for all we know. Teenagers tend to be awkward and insecure, more frequent use of slang and new vocabulary.
Don't lump all teens into one pile. Back in the day I had a few peers who acted exactly like Malice, granted, I lost contact with all of them soon after we graduated high school.
 

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are you contradicting yourself or what? You said that if she talks like xxx, then she is xxx. So you're basically saying she's 20 or 2000.
Maybe put the thinking cap on and think what do those things have in common...both are older than a teenager.
Once you reach adulthood your way of talking doesn't really change, instead it becomes more culturally linked where your manner of speech corresponds to how a given generation is likely to talk but there is no one way that say a 30 year old talks, it just depends on the time and place.

Even in her adult form, I'd give Malice 17 years tops.


Don't lump all teens into one pile. Back in the day I had a few peers who acted exactly like Malice, granted, I lost contact with all of them the moment we graduated high school.
I grew up in a poor ass suburb where teenage pregnancies were more of a fact of life rather than an unfortunate accident and none of the horniest girls or even guys came close to Malice's level of fucked up horniness, I have no idea where do you get these people from but nobody I knew IRL has even heard of such type.
 

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Maybe put the thinking cap on and think what do those things have in common...both are older than a teenager.
Once you reach adulthood your way of talking doesn't really change, instead it becomes more culturally linked where your manner of speech corresponds to how a given generation is likely to talk but there is no one way that say a 30 year old talks, it just depends on the time and place.
make some sense please
 

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Noticed that some versions includes Steam DRM, if you get sent to steam with a "no license" error, just drag and replace files into main folder, and it should launch right away.

Steam Fix

(Detections are false positives, the unpatched exe also gets flagged.)

If you want to bypass the DRM yourself, just use steamless and goldberg emu.

LMAO doesnt work :(
 

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make some sense please
Lemme try to be a messenger of peace of sorts. (or maybe messenger of piss, if I'll fail)

Bad Dragon:

Develop sexual maturity in matter of hours, as demonstrated by lovely maid 'assistant'.

Very hard to tell of his mental maturity. It takes him a few weeks to gain speech beyond dropping single words - and even then he drops one-liners. His thought process in practice heavily depends on our input - in part, we think for him. He may be a cunning man-wyrm or dumb horny teen depending on our choices. But it seems that eventually he's monomaniacally focused on things like harem, hoard and power with very few interests beyond those fields. His personality is, in a way, partial compared to that of a human, underdeveloped in many areas.

I don't think we can accurately measure his maturity. He's not human and does not seem to share human thought process to a great degree. Given his dependency on our choices, I'd wager his mental maturity may wary.


His Cute Naga:

Develop sexual maturity in matter of weeks. As demonstrated by her absolutely Alabamian interaction with daddy dearest. (cue to obligatory 'Sweet home Alabama!')

Malice is an interesting (and cute) little cookie. We see her act like a curious if unruly child, we see her becoming rowdy teenager and we see her mature into young adult. I think, that's were she stops as of now - she's definitely no longer a naïve child, but still very playful and rowdy.

I would say, she mentally grows into a young adult. I don't think she's fully mature, as in adult proper, but mature enough to be a responsible sexual partner. She seems to understand the birds and the bees well enough, IMO.


So, in rather downer (in)conclusion, I don't think we may gauge their age properly. Our judgement on the topic is clouded by hyper-growth shenanigans, probable inhuman thinking and question of personal traits potentially taken for sings of maturity, etc.

It may be entirely possible that if you choose to wed Malice, she's the older one in the couple at that point.

Anyway, Malice time. Because I just can't have enough of Ravager.
View attachment Ravager - Mali Christmas by 4MinuteWarning.mp4












Padoru~ Padoru~


P.S., to the one who knows. Please, don't get marco on me, lol. Made my day, BTW. Still laughing.
 
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It's really only a guess, but I'd say 80-90%. But that probably still means that it won't be complete for another year or so.
Shame, I've been waiting for it to finish to finally try it. Guess I'll just play it rn considering its 90% done.
 

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it has that generic style and some anatomical parts don't make sense
Last version of Ravager before AI image generation exploded into the web and became available for the general public, was 4.3.6.
You can go find that old version and see how much art was already made for Ravager.

Also, I would not call Lubbio's style - generic.
 

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it has that generic style and some anatomical parts don't make sense
This game's style is anything but generic, it is very memorable. The lighting, for example - it's always soft, like the light in the scene is dim and dispersed, makes nighttime scenes really vibey. I'd say that it makes the art personal enough for you to probably track artist's pictures even outside Ravager.

As for anatomical parts... Dude, examples! When Roundscape devs made 'bright' decision to replace big chunk of artwork with AI, Roundscape thread was quickly flooded (courtesy of yours truly, in no small part) with examples of AI-slop. Here, for good two years since generative AI models become ubiquitous, not a single example that I saw.
 

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Dude, you are literally born wanting to already fuck, while Malice has no clue about sex and has shown no interest or understanding in it, you can see it when you leave one of the unhappy captives and she asks you about why are they imprisoned and you sort of dance around it - because she's a fucking child. You are not.
On top of that, Malice is clearly not a baby, she's born aged equivalent to about a 5 year old in human age. She can speak and asks lots of questions about the world, we can pretty confidently reason about her maturity.
And to add on another detail, you grow pretty naturally over time, while Malice accelerates her development through time-travel space-time fuckery, her suddenly turning into an adult is not something natural for her species if it makes any sense to reason about the nature of reality breaking abominations.
Malice fucks you in your dream before she is even born.
She beats you in terms of age to sex ratio by -days.
 

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I just want to say im glad Ravager got this far, Im going through other developers and their games and theyll have a update 7 months later and itll just be bug fixes. But the ravager devs always seem to have consistent updates and actively inform their audience. There one of the very few devs i actually trust to give money to, so props to them they really do good work. I do wonder what happens after ravager is done, I know the 4minutewarning mentioned A few years ago wanting to do a space game once he is finished with this game, I do hope 4minutewarning does become a regular dev for games like these and continues with his space game idea.
 
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