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Did you attempt to modify the game files with different RPA or RPYC files than those included? Was any traceback text file or error file created in your game directory?
Can you try running it out of the Ren'Py SDK?
havent modified it at all, think i might have an issue with renpy in general though, cause I tried running the sdk exe and the same thing happened, it just opens, then closes. no traceback or error file seems to have been made.
seems to only happen with ReDreamer and the SDK though, maybe something about the latest version? my other renpy games work fine.
 

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havent modified it at all, think i might have an issue with renpy in general though, cause I tried running the sdk exe and the same thing happened, it just opens, then closes. no traceback or error file seems to have been made.
seems to only happen with ReDreamer and the SDK though, maybe something about the latest version? my other renpy games work fine.
I hate to say "works on my machine," but I've tried 0.16.0 on 3 different computers with no issues. If the SDK itself does not open, then that is almost certainly an issue on your PC with running Python 3, which Ren'Py 8 uses.
 
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I hate to say "works on my machine," but I've tried 0.16.0 on 3 different computers with no issues. If the SDK itself does not open, then that is almost certainly an issue on your PC with running Python 3, which Ren'Py 8 uses.
Thanks anyways, i've got no idea what's going on. I even tried reinstalling Python 3, still having the same issues. >-<'
 

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spoil me please - I havent got to the mom updates. When the MC was still a boy, he was a pathetic lil beta who let his mom control his life.

Do you get the option for some revenge or to at least tell her to fuck off?
 

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Please add a H-route for the mom. Game is really interesting and fleshed out with details and I think a properly fleshed out mom route would be super hot.
 

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Thank you, but if you want to show your appreciation, could you please not do stuff like this?
'Fraid not, I don't like any kind of paywall based on principles. We are on this site after all. but I still admire your good work especially with how you tackled that discord drama even if I don't personally agree with your poltical opinions, Oh and how you didn't go balls to the wall with commercialization like BMOTV.

It's a passion project at heart, Keep up the pace to not fall like Innoxia. Salutations from /d/ Keep it up.
 
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'Fraid not, I don't like any kind of paywall based on principles. We are on this site after all. but I still admire your good work especially with how you tackled that discord drama even if I don't personally agree with your poltical opinions, Oh and how you didn't go balls to the wall with commercialization like BMOTV.

It's a passion project at heart, Keep up the pace to not fall like Innoxia. Salutations from /d/ Keep it up.
It's not even a paywall. It's a free shareware game, and the features the passwords provide (full jump menu are wholly meant for returning players to make their repeat playthroughs more interesting or to give a special thank-you for supporting the game financially. None of them ever lock story content besides the developer commentary, which honestly should not be on for most readers.

The features a Patron password provide are (blue is for both $10/month Backers and $20/month Sustainers, yellow is only for $20/month Sustainers):
  • In-game C.H.E.A.T.S. adjustment.
  • The full route jump menu to return to previous content (not just the new and edited stuff for a release, which is always available).
  • In-game developer commentary.
  • Saving edits from the sprite viewer to appear in-game (such as Zoey's eye color, hair color, hair style, and outfit).
As stated, none of these features are intended for first-time readers. They also make the game a far more distracting mess to navigate; more specifically, that specific password leads to huge spoilers that could greatly hinder the experience of new players using it, and it's the type of knowledge that changes everything.

If you want a patron password for 0.16.1, it's Smug Scot but please have a bit more kindness for this solo developer and don't go leaking a thing I only give to trusted individuals.
 

raw_meat

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It's not even a paywall. It's a free shareware game, and the features the passwords provide (full jump menu are wholly meant for returning players to make their repeat playthroughs more interesting or to give a special thank-you for supporting the game financially. None of them ever lock story content besides the developer commentary, which honestly should not be on for most readers.
You are still locking QoL features behind a paywall. In my opinion however insignificant these features are (i.e cheats, walkthroughs) for first-time gameplay that's still paywalling something. I do understand why devs do this, they need to pay for the rent and all but i'm still against it, especially if they scorn people in a website for pirating ero western games for providing the means to bypass these paywalls.

Me taking the time to unpack the game files to search for the password key for people unwilling/unable to support you to enjoy the game more is my way of showing appreciation for your work, a derivative on the expression of "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" so to speak.
 
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You are still locking QoL features behind a paywall. In my opinion however insignificant these features are (i.e cheats, walkthroughs) for first-time gameplay that's still paywalling something. I do understand why devs do this, they need to pay for the rent and all but i'm still against it, especially if they scorn people in a website for pirating ero western games for providing the means to bypass these paywalls.

Me taking the time to unpack the game files to search for the password key for people unwilling/unable to support you to enjoy the game more is my way of showing appreciation for your work, a derivative on the expression of "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" so to speak.
The Patreon is a tip jar with this project being largely self-sustaining for further art and a continuing very modest lifestyle for myself, and the way you are showing "appreciation" is not appreciated. I am telling you as the developer that those features are very likely detrimental to new players and not a part of the intended first read, with opening the secret lore on a first playthough exponentially so.

Besides, the features besides the secret lore are all unlocked in anniversary releases anyways (with the next being next month).

I am not harping on your for breaking open the game files, nor am I against piracy (look at how many doujins "CaptainCaption" has pirated on ex-hentai; it's in the hundreds).
I am harping on you for doing it in a way that can permanently alter and even ruin the game for new people (hell, most people). If you enjoyed the game, let others do that as well, and don't throw some moral intellectual freedom imperative out when that comes at the cost of significant story spoilers.
 

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I am telling you as the developer that those features are very likely detrimental to new players and not a part of the intended first read, with opening the secret lore on a first playthough exponentially so.
It's really not is it? I have zero idea what you mean by "secret lore". all of the buttons are still there even if you don't enter the code, they just dont do anything when you click it. i'm not sure what would be spoiled if an unassuming first-time player would put the code in, Hell they could enjoy it more since they could personalize their first run with a character sprite they vibe with or change their C.H.E.A.T.S mid game to reflect changes they have experienced. It's not going to "permanently alter and even ruin the game for new people"

It's not like they would willingly turn on commentary on a first-run, or chapter jumped straight into the h-scenes. (I mean, if they jumped straight to the h-scenes it's clear they aren't interested in the writing in the first place)

What lies beyond the paywall is just:

The features a Patron password provide are (blue is for both $10/month Backers and $20/month Sustainers, yellow is only for $20/month Sustainers):
  • In-game C.H.E.A.T.S. adjustment.
  • The full route jump menu to return to previous content (not just the new and edited stuff for a release, which is always available).
  • In-game developer commentary.
  • Saving edits from the sprite viewer to appear in-game (such as Zoey's eye color, hair color, hair style, and outfit).
You're extrapolating from my posts too much here.
 

DreamTeamStudio

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It's really not is it? I have zero idea what you mean by "secret lore". all of the buttons are still there even if you don't enter the code, they just dont do anything when you click it. i'm not sure what would be spoiled if an unassuming first-time player would put the code in, Hell they could enjoy it more since they could personalize their first run with a character sprite they vibe with or change their C.H.E.A.T.S mid game to reflect changes they have experienced. It's not going to "permanently alter and even ruin the game for new people"

It's not like they would willingly turn on commentary on a first-run, or chapter jumped straight into the h-scenes. (I mean, if they jumped straight to the h-scenes it's clear they aren't interested in the writing in the first place)

What lies beyond the paywall is just:



You're extrapolating from my posts too much here.
The lore unlocks automatically as a new function, and there is a second password that does everything but the secret lore. I already posted it above. Please just edit your post to use that one.
 
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There are sexual scenes in the game and the two main routes that are worked on right now each have a sex scene or two as far as I know. None in the mom route to my understanding (dev is adamant about no incest) and there is one route that isn't very developed yet, so avoid those if you want to see lewds.

That said, despite the initial set-up the game is a story-with-porn rather than a porn-with-story, so if you're not interested in the story and/or it can't win you over within the first maybe... 30 or so minutes, depending on how much patience you have, you're probably better off hunting elsewhere.
 
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