VN Ren'Py Re Even [v0.2.5] [ReEven Studio]

[JoeTheMC84]

Hey! Totally get where you’re coming from, so here’s a quick rundown:

• No incest — the girls are cousins, they just call the MC “brother.” It’s not meant to be that kind of thing.
• No NTR, no sharing, no scenes— not now, not ever.
• Girl's pasts aren't a focus, no awkward “you're the biggest” stuff either.
• Any lesbian content will be fully optional.
• No pregnancy planned, but we’re not forcing pullouts or condoms either.

Appreciate the answer, but I'm still a little confused. So the Mc lives with his aunt and cousins, but they call him brother, but there will not be any incest? So does that mean the aunt and cousins aren't love interests, or are you saying they aren't his real aunt and cousins and he just calls them that in a sense of how some cultures just call older guys "uncle," or how an older guy might call a younger man "son," even though there is no actual family relationship?

I also know that you might need to be careful because of Patreon since they don't allow incest, so I get if you want to chose your words carefully since some people can be dicks and report game there for stuff the dev says here. So I guess what I'm getting at is if you set it up so a fan could possible make a patch if they really wanted to and everything would still make sense, or if it is officially and canonically the fact that they are not related and the story will make it clear so even an unofficial fan patch would not work and would just make the story weird.

Very happy to hear about the no NTR and stuff and even no TMI.

Also glad to hear that lesbian stuff will be optional if included. Though hopefully we won't have miss a girl to avoid it and we can still get the full harem even if we opt out of lesbian stuff.

Sad to hear no pregnancy, it's one of my top three fetishes just after harem and incest... Maybe I can talk you into adding pregnancy though? half-joking of course, . Not every game needs it, some it might not fit the timescale or there can be other factors, but could be an ending or just referenced that the girls get knocked up, but either way, it isn't something that if it's missing will make me skip a game like if a game isn't harem then I don't play the game (unless the game only have one love interest of course, but I'm rambling).

Again, thanks for the answer you already gave and I hope to hear more, the game looks interesting,

 

[JennaJJ]

... Thx 4 the share ...

 

[FatGiant]

I just played it.

Some thoughts:

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I am sorry to say, but, I am NOT convinced this will be any good. The sample is too small, I know, but...

Peace

 

[ReEven Studio]

Appreciate the answer, but I'm still a little confused. So the Mc lives with his aunt and cousins, but they call him brother, but there will not be any incest? So does that mean the aunt and cousins aren't love interests, or are you saying they aren't his real aunt and cousins and he just calls them that in a sense of how some cultures just call older guys "uncle," or how an older guy might call a younger man "son," even though there is no actual family relationship?

I also know that you might need to be careful because of Patreon since they don't allow incest, so I get if you want to chose your words carefully since some people can be dicks and report game there for stuff the dev says here. So I guess what I'm getting at is if you set it up so a fan could possible make a patch if they really wanted to and everything would still make sense, or if it is officially and canonically the fact that they are not related and the story will make it clear so even an unofficial fan patch would not work and would just make the story weird.

Very happy to hear about the no NTR and stuff and even no TMI.

Also glad to hear that lesbian stuff will be optional if included. Though hopefully we won't have miss a girl to avoid it and we can still get the full harem even if we opt out of lesbian stuff.

Sad to hear no pregnancy, it's one of my top three fetishes just after harem and incest... Maybe I can talk you into adding pregnancy though? half-joking of course, . Not every game needs it, some it might not fit the timescale or there can be other factors, but could be an ending or just referenced that the girls get knocked up, but either way, it isn't something that if it's missing will make me skip a game like if a game isn't harem then I don't play the game (unless the game only have one love interest of course, but I'm rambling).

Again, thanks for the answer you already gave and I hope to hear more, the game looks interesting,

Thanks for the message! Let me clarify the setup a bit to avoid confusion.

The MC isn’t biologically related to Scarlett or her daughters. Scarlett was his late mother’s close friend and old neighbour. After his mom passed away from an illness when he was very young, Scarlett stepped in and helped raise him for a few years. During that time, her daughters naturally started calling him “brother,” and they all lived together like a family.

Later, Scarlett had to move to another city after being promoted to Regional Manager at a fashion agency. The MC was left alone again and has missed them ever since. His father planned a vacation to visit them - and that’s where the prologue begins.

I’ll also make all of this even clearer in the next update so there’s no confusion moving forward.

Just to be clear: there’s no incest, and everything stays fully within Patreon’s guidelines.

As for pregnancy I haven’t fully planned how to handle it yet, but it will be optional if I do include it in the future. Definitely something I’ll be exploring as development goes on.

Thanks again!

 

[ReEven Studio]

... Thx 4 the share ...

You're welcome!
Glad to have you here more to come soon!

 

[ReEven Studio]

I just played it.

Some thoughts:

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I am sorry to say, but, I am NOT convinced this will be any good. The sample is too small, I know, but...

Peace

Thanks for giving it a try and for the honest feedback.

The prologue was meant as a short intro to set the stage, not the full picture. A lot of what feels vague now (like the pill, character roles, and tone) will get clearer in future updates this was just the setup.

I totally understand the concerns around the "no incest" part. It’s a platform rule I have to follow, but the relationships still have meaningful development planned - the teasing isn’t just for nothing.

It might not click with everyone right away, and that’s okay. I hope the next update gives you a better idea of where it’s all heading. Thanks again for checking it out. ✌

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Thanks for the message! Let me clarify the setup a bit to avoid confusion.

The MC isn’t biologically related to Scarlett or her daughters. Scarlett was his late mother’s close friend and old neighbour. After his mom passed away from an illness when he was very young, Scarlett stepped in and helped raise him for a few years. During that time, her daughters naturally started calling him “brother,” and they all lived together like a family.

Later, Scarlett had to move to another city after being promoted to Regional Manager at a fashion agency. The MC was left alone again and has missed them ever since. His father planned a vacation to visit them - and that’s where the prologue begins.

I’ll also make all of this even clearer in the next update so there’s no confusion moving forward.

Just to be clear: there’s no incest, and everything stays fully within Patreon’s guidelines.

As for pregnancy I haven’t fully planned how to handle it yet, but it will be optional if I do include it in the future. Definitely something I’ll be exploring as development goes on.

Thanks again!

Thanks for the more info. Will be keeping an eye on this one for sure.

 

[FatGiant]

Thanks for giving it a try and for the honest feedback.

The prologue was meant as a short intro to set the stage, not the full picture. A lot of what feels vague now (like the pill, character roles, and tone) will get clearer in future updates this was just the setup.

I totally understand the concerns around the "no incest" part. It’s a platform rule I have to follow, but the relationships still have meaningful development planned - the teasing isn’t just for nothing.

It might not click with everyone right away, and that’s okay. I hope the next update gives you a better idea of where it’s all heading. Thanks again for checking it out. ✌

Thanks.

I don't know how experienced you are at writing, will not judge from such a small sample, but, you need to know at least ONE major detail:

- The purpose of the first page, is to make you read the second. And so on...

If you can, and I know you can, re-write the Prologue. Add all those details about relationships and history of the MC and "the family". The way it is presented now, is extremely unsatisfying.

I also don't know what experience you have with Adult Visual Novels, as a player, but, consider this as a rule of thumb (NOT set in stone, but highly recommended):
- Female characters with which the MC interacts are Love Interests. If they aren't, they MUST be explicitly set apart.

This is because however ugly you make them or unattractive you paint them, there will always be some player that will (even if just for completion) treat her like so.

In your game, you set "the family" as lewdable. Then you come here and tell us there will be nothing between the MC and them.

No incest — the girls are cousins, they just call the MC “brother.” It’s not meant to be that kind of thing.

Only later you explain that they aren't related. They were cousins, now they have no blood relation...

Please, make a CLEAR statement so that we understand what was in this small demo and what we can expect in the future.

So far, you have created false hopes with anyone that was expecting an incest story, with all the Aunt and Brother thing.

Be careful of the Chekov's Guns :


Chekhov's gun is a dramatic principle that suggests that every element in a story should be meaningful and serve a purpose, rather than being included for mere decoration. It implies that if a specific detail, like a gun, is introduced early in the narrative, it should eventually be used or its significance revealed later. This principle aims to avoid creating false expectations or leaving the audience with unresolved questions.
In essence, Chekhov's gun means:

• Omit the irrelevant: If something isn't going to be relevant to the plot, don't include it.
• Fulfill expectations: If a detail is introduced that suggests a future event or revelation, that event or revelation should occur.
• Avoid false promises: Don't introduce elements that lead the audience to anticipate something that never happens.

If you didn't want the "cousins" to be lewdable, you shouldn't have put them in the Main Menu in bikinis.
If a relationship is relevant, make them CLEAR and obvious. Don't imply they are something they aren't.

For example, no one expects the sales clerk in the shop to be part of the story. BUT, I would bet that all the players expect the woman you glared at their boobs and even allowed us to have a line flirting with them, to be in your bed at some point. Whether they are "Aunts", "Mother", "Landlady", "Mother's Best Friend", "Step-Mother", or whatever else you want to concoct.

Peace

 

[Hammer120]

should have labeled that update .05 definitely not a 0.2 needed about twice the content.
and please take what fatgiant had to say into consideration

 

[ReEven Studio]

Thanks.

I don't know how experienced you are at writing, will not judge from such a small sample, but, you need to know at least ONE major detail:

- The purpose of the first page, is to make you read the second. And so on...

If you can, and I know you can, re-write the Prologue. Add all those details about relationships and history of the MC and "the family". The way it is presented now, is extremely unsatisfying.

I also don't know what experience you have with Adult Visual Novels, as a player, but, consider this as a rule of thumb (NOT set in stone, but highly recommended):
- Female characters with which the MC interacts are Love Interests. If they aren't, they MUST be explicitly set apart.

This is because however ugly you make them or unattractive you paint them, there will always be some player that will (even if just for completion) treat her like so.

In your game, you set "the family" as lewdable. Then you come here and tell us there will be nothing between the MC and them.



Only later you explain that they aren't related. They were cousins, now they have no blood relation...

Please, make a CLEAR statement so that we understand what was in this small demo and what we can expect in the future.

So far, you have created false hopes with anyone that was expecting an incest story, with all the Aunt and Brother thing.

Be careful of the Chekov's Guns :


Chekhov's gun is a dramatic principle that suggests that every element in a story should be meaningful and serve a purpose, rather than being included for mere decoration. It implies that if a specific detail, like a gun, is introduced early in the narrative, it should eventually be used or its significance revealed later. This principle aims to avoid creating false expectations or leaving the audience with unresolved questions.
In essence, Chekhov's gun means:

• Omit the irrelevant: If something isn't going to be relevant to the plot, don't include it.
• Fulfill expectations: If a detail is introduced that suggests a future event or revelation, that event or revelation should occur.
• Avoid false promises: Don't introduce elements that lead the audience to anticipate something that never happens.

If you didn't want the "cousins" to be lewdable, you shouldn't have put them in the Main Menu in bikinis.
If a relationship is relevant, make them CLEAR and obvious. Don't imply they are something they aren't.

For example, no one expects the sales clerk in the shop to be part of the story. BUT, I would bet that all the players expect the woman you glared at their boobs and even allowed us to have a line flirting with them, to be in your bed at some point. Whether they are "Aunts", "Mother", "Landlady", "Mother's Best Friend", "Step-Mother", or whatever else you want to concoct.

Peace

Thanks for the feedback I really appreciate the honesty❤.

Just to clarify: The MC isn’t related to them. Scarlett was his mom’s close friend, and the whole “aunt” and “brother” thing was just how they grew up. I’ll rewrite the prologue to make all that clearer.

That said yes, there will be scenes with them later. I have everything planned out.

Totally get the Chekhov’s Gun point - and yeah, everything shown so far is there for a reason it’ll all make sense as the story unfolds.

Thanks again for playing and taking the time to share your thoughts.

 

[ReEven Studio]

should have labeled that update .05 definitely not a 0.2 needed about twice the content.
and please take what fatgiant had to say into consideration

I’ve read all the feedback I’m already working on improvements for the next update.

 

[FatGiant]

Thanks for the feedback I really appreciate the honesty❤.

Just to clarify: The MC isn’t related to them. Scarlett was his mom’s close friend, and the whole “aunt” and “brother” thing was just how they grew up. I’ll rewrite the prologue to make all that clearer.

That said yes, there will be scenes with them later. I have everything planned out.

Totally get the Chekhov’s Gun point - and yeah, everything shown so far is there for a reason it’ll all make sense as the story unfolds.

Thanks again for playing and taking the time to share your thoughts.

Alright.

I may have been a bit harsh, sure, but, well the point needed to be made clear.

"The food critic" has said it's piece, now, it's your time to cook.

Peace

 

[godscoper]

I agree that being harsh in the beginning is beneficial, as it encourages developers to address all complaints and focus on improving their game, ultimately leading to better support in the long run.

1. Just dont listen to one side (paid support or free to play players on here). Try listening to both sides and pick the ones that are most questioned/ commented on that fit your vision, so that it will lead to more support, most likely.

Spoiler: ranting about don't surprise tag when game almost completed.

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[Chris2041]

I agree that being harsh in the beginning is beneficial, as it encourages developers to address all complaints and focus on improving their game, ultimately leading to better support in the long run.

1. Just dont listen to one side (paid support or free to play players on here). Try listening to both sides and pick the ones that are most questioned/ commented on that fit your vision, so that it will lead to more support, most likely.

Spoiler: ranting about don't surprise tag when game almost completed.

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Name of the game ??

 

[Skeltom]

ReEven Studio, do you hate player agency with a passion or something? Forced to perv out with a single "choice", forced to spy on someone with yep, another fake choice. Two choices that are really only one. If the player picks the one you don't want they get a "cute" fourth wall break that just calls you a coward and goes on to what is "supposed" to happen. There is a big difference between a KN and a VN. Not every player is going to be into every LI you came up with. You just meet this woman and because of thing that were out of the players control you basically get...

"You saw me naked so take your close off."
"No, thanks, I'm good."
"Too bad. This is happening one way or another. Enjoy!"

 

[ReEven Studio]

ReEven Studio, do you hate player agency with a passion or something? Forced to perv out with a single "choice", forced to spy on someone with yep, another fake choice. Two choices that are really only one. If the player picks the one you don't want they get a "cute" fourth wall break that just calls you a coward and goes on to what is "supposed" to happen. There is a big difference between a KN and a VN. Not every player is going to be into every LI you came up with. You just meet this woman and because of thing that were out of the players control you basically get...

"You saw me naked so take your close off."
"No, thanks, I'm good."
"Too bad. This is happening one way or another. Enjoy!"

Thank you for the feedback,

However, this is a harem game, and the Early game version is meant to introduce core characters and scenes that are important to the story. Skipping them early on would break the narrative flow.

That said, Later game versions will offer more choices, optional paths, and greater player agency. The current structure is just for the Intro phase, to establish the foundation.

 

[FatGiant]

Thank you for the feedback,

However, this is a harem game, and the Early game version is meant to introduce core characters and scenes that are important to the story. Skipping them early on would break the narrative flow.

That said, Later game versions will offer more choices, optional paths, and greater player agency. The current structure is just for the Intro phase, to establish the foundation.

Look, I get it... The "Plot" demands it. The problem is...

- Empty or unneeded choices only create attrition. We know damn well that our choices in these games are rarely meaningful, but, rub our face in it is a bit much uh?
- You may not be aware, but some of us use a tool to see what variables are modified with each choice, and, well, we could see that NONE of the choices in this sample demo set any variable. This means they were ONLY for show. Pointless busy work with nothing behind it.
- I, personally, have nothing against a GOOD kinetic novel (if you are not into the jargon, it means a novel with no input from the player) but, when you set out to do a Visual Novel, if you imply Player Agency, it HAS to be real.
- You set us up to peek on her, but, give us a choice to say No. Respect it. Or don't give the choice. Disrespecting our choice, in the name of the "Almighty Plot", creates some distrust and ill-will. Even if it is for shit and giggles... Don't. Do. That. You may mock us for the choice, it's Ok. But respect the choice. Respect the Player.
- It is YOUR game. Sure. That means nothing if there's no one playing, except you. Got it?

Hey, no one said that this would be easy, did they? Keep cooking.

Peace

 

[Skeltom]

However, this is a harem game, and the Early game version is meant to introduce core characters and scenes that are important to the story. Skipping them early on would break the narrative flow.

How does forcing lewd content with every LI break a narrative flow? The narrative of the VN is about the story and unless that narrative is "The MC is a horny perv and I as the dev have already decided what will happen with a complete disregard to player opinion" it make no sense to just have the "Player", and I use that word loosely, sit back and twiddle their thumbs.

You may not be aware, but some of us use a tool to see what variables are modified with each choice, and, well, we could see that NONE of the choices in this sample demo set any variable.

They don't set a variable because there are no variables to set aside from one string and that is just for the name input. The only thing the game has is character definitions. Every choice that is there is fake. They could all be removed and nothing would change at all. This isn't a visual novel.

 

[ReEven Studio]

Look, I get it... The "Plot" demands it. The problem is...

- Empty or unneeded choices only create attrition. We know damn well that our choices in these games are rarely meaningful, but, rub our face in it is a bit much uh?
- You may not be aware, but some of us use a tool to see what variables are modified with each choice, and, well, we could see that NONE of the choices in this sample demo set any variable. This means they were ONLY for show. Pointless busy work with nothing behind it.
- I, personally, have nothing against a GOOD kinetic novel (if you are not into the jargon, it means a novel with no input from the player) but, when you set out to do a Visual Novel, if you imply Player Agency, it HAS to be real.
- You set us up to peek on her, but, give us a choice to say No. Respect it. Or don't give the choice. Disrespecting our choice, in the name of the "Almighty Plot", creates some distrust and ill-will. Even if it is for shit and giggles... Don't. Do. That. You may mock us for the choice, it's Ok. But respect the choice. Respect the Player.
- It is YOUR game. Sure. That means nothing if there's no one playing, except you. Got it?

Hey, no one said that this would be easy, did they? Keep cooking.

Peace

Alright, I hear you and I get the frustration. But let’s be real for a sec: this is a demo, not the full game. Judging the entire structure or story direction off a few early scenes? That’s jumping the gun a bit.

About the choices yeah, they didn’t trigger variables yet. That’s not because they’re “fake,” but because this part was about setting the tone, not dumping all the mechanics right out the gate. This isn’t a stat-heavy sandbox it’s a story-first VN, and meaningful choices are coming as things unfold.

And as for giving a choice and then going against it? That was 100% intentional. The scene basically sets the whole tone for the MC’s journey if someone skips that, yeah, I’m gonna have a little fun with it . It’s part of the vibe. I’m not trying to disrespect anyone, but I do like engaging with the players directly and sometimes that includes trolling just a little.

Still, I appreciate the honest feedback. It helps sharpen things going forward. I might not follow every convention, but I’m always listening especially when people take the time to speak up.

Peace ✌

 

[ReEven Studio]

How does forcing lewd content with every LI break a narrative flow? The narrative of the VN is about the story and unless that narrative is "The MC is a horny perv and I as the dev have already decided what will happen with a complete disregard to player opinion" it make no sense to just have the "Player", and I use that word loosely, sit back and twiddle their thumbs.



They don't set a variable because there are no variables to set aside from one string and that is just for the name input. The only thing the game has is character definitions. Every choice that is there is fake. They could all be removed and nothing would change at all. This isn't a visual novel.

Alright, let’s cut through the noise.

If the narrative was “the MC is a horny perv,” trust me you’d know. But forcing lewd content? That’s not what’s happening here. These early scenes are about setting tone and characters, not building some sandbox of constant player control. Not every story needs to hand over the steering wheel five minutes in especially not in a demo. Yeah, it’s linear for now. That’s intentional.

You say there are no real choices or variables fair. It’s the foundation, not the finished product. The choices right now wouldn’t break anything, true but they’re not pointless. I added those little “continue”-type choices to slow things down a bit and make sure people actually see the animation work I put time into, instead of just skipping through it.

Also, if your definition of a visual novel is “must allow the player to micromanage every relationship and outcome immediately,” then you’re in the wrong genre, or at least the wrong project. This isn’t a porn sim. It’s a story-driven VN where choices will branch but only when they mean something.

So yeah, you’re free to hate it. Just don’t confuse "not for me" with "not a VN."