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Dorfnutter

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Not sure if patreon is cracking down on that but I know the MBML removed that feature.
Correction: Nii hasn't removed it yet but next update will remove it. Along with that, the early story is getting a rework/rewrite in order for the removal of that feature to make sense (as Nii said despite the option the relationship between Sky and Klara and MC still feels incest-y enough that Patreon's likely gonna come knocking eventually).
 

Meiri

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*developer makes multiple more thousands than I do a month* *removes incest from game to make more money* love these developers they surely care about creating their games more than money! jk another game done supporting
No, they remove it just so that they can continue using their platform either Patreon or Itch and so that they don't suddenly lose all their income.

If anything put the blame on the companies / payment processors that are pursuing this.
 
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Cherubin25

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Meh, just reading that the Incest got removed. A shame, but then I can drop this game for good and dont have to wait 2 years for each Update. I dont mind if there is no incest in a game, but I will certainly not keep playing a game which clearly had incest but got it removed.
Especially because it looks like the Dev did it in a way to permanently remove it and not only to remove it for the time being with the option of adding it back in a year or so when the topic is not as big anymore.
 

lucan123

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If that executive order actually becomes a bill and visa and master card no longer gets a say in whats appropriate, its the only real way forward sadly
 
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No, they remove it just so that they can continue using their platform either Patreon or Itch and so that they don't suddenly lose all their income.

If anything put the blame on the companies / payment processors that are pursuing this.
The blame starts with the payment processors, then the devs that cave, and ultimately rests with the consumers who need to control this crap with their wallets. No one is blameless in all of this. In order to avoid the obvious overused parallels from around 80 ish years ago, I'll explain using an fictional example. Palpatine didn't have control to begin with. He was given control and then later his orders were followed. If a stormtrooper guns down an innocent because he was "just following orders", is he innocent?
 
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rdsxn

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I went ahead and threw together a quick restoration incest patch based on the script from the last update and changed Miya's name to use the proper variable in the new part of the update. It's a bit of a quick and dirty job, and I haven't fully tested it, so there may be some bugs. There's also some dialogue in the new update that definitely needs a rewrite to properly account for the ipatch, so if anyone is interested in taking a crack at it, then feel free.
 

Clarence2992

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Is this even the same game? I loaded a save and this prick is spanking his mother. Do I need to start from the beginning since this dev put an incest game on Patreon in the first place, KNOWING their policy, and has now changed the whole fucking thing up?
 

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No, they remove it just so that they can continue using their platform either Patreon or Itch and so that they don't suddenly lose all their income.

If anything put the blame on the companies / payment processors that are pursuing this.
I definitely do put the blame mainly on the payment processors/companies but the fact that almost every single dev seems to be bending the knee to these companies that are being pressured by the payment processors and not even trying to make an attempt to work around continuing to make their games with their original vision while receiving payments in another form/on different sites. I 100% understand smaller games with no actual community/fanbase making this change but all the bigger devs doing this and half assing it by not even properly rewriting their games dialogue (ocean) has made being a fan of this genre of games extremely disappointing the last few months and from a consumers eyes shows that the devs main focus is not losing their income, which yes is very understandable unfortunately the world does revolve around money and game development depending on the size can be extremely expensive but I wish these developers would come together and try to work around the issue not just change the whole premise of their game. Sadly that is probably just wishful thinking, no idea if maybe oppaimans site/shop is being affected by this maybe they aren't, probably are. Maybe I'm just being extremely ignorant right now but one can hope, I'll most likely keep giving this game a go for the next few updates to see how the writing plays out but it really rubs me the wrong way as someone who has paid for the majority of the avn's I've played to see how this is all playing out. Anyways if anyone for some reason read this incoherent mess thanks for coming to my ted talk
 
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Can someone help please !!! I'm playing the game on Joiplay Android 14 and the options in the game show up blank. Has anyone found the solution please let me know
 

Meiri

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I definitely do put the blame mainly on the payment processors/companies but the fact that almost every single dev seems to be bending the knee to these companies that are being pressured by the payment processors and not even trying to make an attempt to work around continuing to make their games with their original vision while receiving payments in another form/on different sites. I 100% understand smaller games with no actual community/fanbase making this change but all the bigger devs doing this and half assing it by not even properly rewriting their games dialogue (ocean) has made being a fan of this genre of games extremely disappointing the last few months and from a consumers eyes shows that the devs main focus is not losing their income, which yes is very understandable unfortunately the world does revolve around money and game development depending on the size can be extremely expensive but I wish these developers would come together and try to work around the issue not just change the whole premise of their game. Sadly that is probably just wishful thinking, no idea if maybe oppaimans site/shop is being affected by this maybe they aren't, probably are. Maybe I'm just being extremely ignorant right now but one can hope, I'll most likely keep giving this game a go for the next few updates to see how the writing plays out but it really rubs me the wrong way as someone who has paid for the majority of the avn's I've played to see how this is all playing out. Anyways if anyone for some reason read this incoherent mess thanks for coming to my ted talk
I am not gonna comment much more because I don't want to go too OT and get my message deleted.

Regarding Gary in particular, I wouldn't consider him a big dev at all, just look at his Patreon numbers and add that he already has complained in the past about getting low income from Patreon also spending so much time between updates is not exactly helping him in that regard.

Expecting him to just ignore everything and risk it all isn't really realistic, for some of these devs it's the only source of income and depending on their work experience it's not like they can quit this and easily find a new job.

Like, I think this is an overreaction and I am expecting everything to return to normal when they forget about us and move to other things, but I can understand Devs not wanting to risk it.
 

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Sooo, it was a bit meh? No real story progression, we just spent the entire update playing detective. And just when we think we're going to learn something, obviously it's over (even if yes, it was predictable at this point). Yeah ok, it's nice to get closer to the girls, but everything besides that just seemed empty to me. Right now I just want this evening to end and for the story to move on.
 
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Cherubin25

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Regarding Gary in particular, I wouldn't consider him a big dev at all, just look at his Patreon numbers and add that he already has complained in the past about getting low income from Patreon also spending so much time between updates is not exactly helping him in that regard.
I mean, this is entirely his own fault. He could easily split his massive Updates into smaller Updates, which would still be very big. I have not played the most recent one, but the one before could have easily be split into 3 or even 4 Updates, which would then require a third or fourth of the time between Updates.

I dont mind to wait for Updates, but I would never consider supporting someone who spends almost 2 years to develop one Update. This would be around 24 months of me paying and not receiving the main reason why I pay - sure, people get Wallpapers and Stuff, but this would not be interesting for me. But if instead of having to wait 20 months or so for an Update, I would gladly wait 5 months for it and would still have a decent amount of playtime.

If the quality of the content is good (and this game IS of very high quality), then there might be other reasons why people dont want to support. Could be prizing or update cycle and I think for Realm Invader it is clearly the latter.

Like, I think this is an overreaction and I am expecting everything to return to normal when they forget about us and move to other things, but I can understand Devs not wanting to risk it.
While I also think like that and hope that you are right, from what I have read the Dev seemed to not really put a workaround in the game which allows him to add incest at a later date, if the topic is not as hot anymore, but completely removed incest from the game.
 
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