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Having played through sharing and open-harem routes with the latest update, I'm guessing the choice for the MC to be dominant or submissive in NON-sharing scenes (harem or mono routes) will be added (or come into play) in a later update?
Regular dom/sub play will be added to the game later, and will influence both the training and story content. There's already a couple choices in the game that add dom/sub points. Once a few more of these are added, you'll start getting dominant or submissive content depending on which side you swing closer to.

Is there NTR or sharing content because there swinging tag.
There's optional sharing content for the succubus heroine, but there will never be any actual NTR added to the game.

You have to actively encourage sharing to get the choice for it. Otherwise, you will most likely not even notice an option for it exists, since the game can lock itself to the monogamy/harem route early on.

Nice update :)

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I'll be changing these lines in the v0.11b patch. In the future this type of dialogue will be reserved for the dominant sharing route, and to a lesser degree than what was originally in the tavern scene.

The Lucius scene will have optional threesome content, which can be either MFF or MMF depending on the MC's gender. But the option for this scene won't come up if you chose to only share Val with women.
 

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Regular dom/sub play will be added to the game later, and will influence both the training and story content. There's already a couple choices in the game that add dom/sub points. Once a few more of these are added, you'll start getting dominant or submissive content depending on which side you swing closer to.



There's optional sharing content for the succubus heroine, but there will never be any actual NTR added to the game.

You have to actively encourage sharing to get the choice for it. Otherwise, you will most likely not even notice an option for it exists, since the game can lock itself to the monogamy/harem route early on.



I'll be changing these lines in the v0.11b patch. In the future this type of dialogue will be reserved for the dominant sharing route, and to a lesser degree than what was originally in the tavern scene.

The Lucius scene will have optional threesome content, which can be either MFF or MMF depending on the MC's gender. But the option for this scene won't come up if you chose to only share Val with women.
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in 0.11, looks like it's turning into sandbox. I can't say that i'm big fan of it, but as long dev has a good hints system like other sandbox VNs (i.e. harem hotel, black magic, mythic manor, etc.) i'm willing to give it a try.
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in 0.11, looks like it's turning into sandbox. I can't say that i'm big fan of it, but as long dev has a good hints system like other sandbox VNs (i.e. harem hotel, black magic, mythic manor, etc.) i'm willing to give it a try.
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I usually avoid sandbox games like the plague, because more often than not they add nothing, other than extend playing time through boring, repetitive multiple-click gameplay. But, thankfully, 0.11 map doesn't have the usual downsides of such sandbox games.
1) All the location names are always displayed, so you don't have to wonder which one is Lucius' Shop and which one is the Adult Shop.
2) Locations with available events have icons indicating that.
3) There is no need to click multiple times to get to a location. No walking/travel time either.
4) No time system (Oh, I am sorry, but this event is only available on Thursdays at 18:00, just like 4 other events, so you'll have to wait at least a month to see all of them. "Bonus points" if the event has a randomized chance to appear).

In essence, this is no different than displaying it as regular dialogue options ("Go to..."), just in a more graphic way. Which is good, IMO.
 

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It seems you can only make two choices during the sandbox part. I chose Val first and then Rena, but afterwards the sandbox was over even though there were other places I could have visited.
 

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I usually avoid sandbox games like the plague, because more often than not they add nothing, other than extend playing time through boring, repetitive multiple-click gameplay. But, thankfully, 0.11 map doesn't have the usual downsides of such sandbox games.
1) All the location names are always displayed, so you don't have to wonder which one is Lucius' Shop and which one is the Adult Shop.
2) Locations with available events have icons indicating that.
3) There is no need to click multiple times to get to a location. No walking/travel time either.
4) No time system (Oh, I am sorry, but this event is only available on Thursdays at 18:00, just like 4 other events, so you'll have to wait at least a month to see all of them. "Bonus points" if the event has a randomized chance to appear).

In essence, this is no different than displaying it as regular dialogue options ("Go to..."), just in a more graphic way. Which is good, IMO.
Yes, I don't disagree with you on the surface (UI). however, in this case, there's a limit to where you can visit and it all depends on will it impact in the future outcomes. so right after the announcement of the map being unlocked there's a choice of going to the courtyard or go see valerie (you can only do 1):
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my concern is if I choose courtyard what's the impact? and will i be able to come back to chose valerie or will i miss out.
so look at the code, if i chose courtyard this is the variable going to be set:
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if i chose valerie, these are the variables that will be set:
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dev already opened 3 cans of worms,
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why not throw sandbox into the mix.
 
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Yes, I don't disagree with you on the surface (UI). however, in this case, there's a limit to where you can visit and it all depends on will it impact in the future outcomes. so right after the announcement of the map being unlocked there's a choice of going to the courtyard or go see valerie (you can only do 1):
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my concern is if I choose courtyard what's the impact? and will i be able to come back to chose valerie or will i miss out.
so look at the code, if i chose courtyard this is the variable going to be set:
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if i chose valerie, these are the variables that will be set:
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Yes, I can see how that's a concern if there's a possibility to miss/change some future event because you didn't visit a previous one. So maybe ionDivvy could clarify, whether they will have such an impact? Or consider removing the limit altogether?
 

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Regular dom/sub play will be added to the game later, and will influence both the training and story content. There's already a couple choices in the game that add dom/sub points. Once a few more of these are added, you'll start getting dominant or submissive content depending on which side you swing closer to.



There's optional sharing content for the succubus heroine, but there will never be any actual NTR added to the game.

You have to actively encourage sharing to get the choice for it. Otherwise, you will most likely not even notice an option for it exists, since the game can lock itself to the monogamy/harem route early on.



I'll be changing these lines in the v0.11b patch. In the future this type of dialogue will be reserved for the dominant sharing route, and to a lesser degree than what was originally in the tavern scene.

The Lucius scene will have optional threesome content, which can be either MFF or MMF depending on the MC's gender. But the option for this scene won't come up if you chose to only share Val with women.
Android update ?
 

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This was a great update. The story is really starting to take shape and whether or not you choose to pursue the sharing path there is plenty of content. I was pleased that if you choose to give Val the most freedom to choose you can still influence her on the path she takes. I infer that in the universe it is because of the connection that they have and she is able to understand what the MC would like and how far she can take her experimentation and still appeal to the MC's sensibilities. Almost like she is getting feedback before the fact that he would like her to sit with another man but only talk or go with the woman and go all the way etc. It is such a variable and interesting path that is really easy to lock yourself out of with only one or two comments. It is a big win for player agency, though, and I am sure that it is appreciated by those who want a more monogamous and romantic story. I also think that the current adversaries that are introduced are more worthy opponents to match the MC's increasing power level. I really am looking forward to the next update.
 
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ionDivvy

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Yes, I can see how that's a concern if there's a possibility to miss/change some future event because you didn't visit a previous one. So maybe ionDivvy could clarify, whether they will have such an impact? Or consider removing the limit altogether?
I think people might be overestimating the role of the map system. No more than 5-10% of the game's content will be in these scenes, and you'll still be able to earn enough love points for each of the heroines without even interacting with these events; it just makes it a bit easier to unlock their endings.

This is also a mid-game feature that will only be present for Acts 3-5. You'll reach a point where you're able to infinitely loop the map and training systems to catch up on any events you missed. When you're ready to move on, the final story arcs (Acts 6-8) will follow a standard visual novel format.
 

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I have sharing on so, seeing Valerie having fun with that other guy made me not only horny but proud.

I love seeing women letting loose and having fun. Val is such a cutie :love:
I was torn after I played both scenes but in the end I decided to let the scene with the female customer stand because she was way hotter and Val came so much harder. That bitch really knew what she was doing and turned her into a waterfall. It seemed more unselfish to allow her the scene that she enjoyed more. I know that both scenes basically reaffirmed that Val prefers the MC but I think it will be more special if her first time with another man is with MCs boss instead of the town drunk.
 
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I was torn after I played both scenes but in the end I decided to let the scene with the female customer stand because she was way hotter and Val came so much harder. That bitch really knew what she was doing and turned her into a waterfall. It seemed more unselfish to allow her the scene that she enjoyed more. I know that both scenes basically reaffirmed that Val prefers the MC but I think it will be more special if her first time with another man is with MCs boss instead of the town drunk.
I just wish her first time with another man could have been in a more romantic place instead of some dirty alley.
 
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ionDivvy

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I just wish her first time with another man could have been in a more romantic place instead of some dirty alley.
Most of the sharing scenes will be in a home/bed environment, and the MC will usually be present in some capacity.

This also isn't the last time that particular tavern patron will appear; there can be a second scene with them in one of the tavern's spare guest rooms where the MC can join in or watch.
 

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Played a bit, really enjoying it, I am playing as male MC. Not biggest fan of training scenes, cause it's just the same, repeatable scenes, wished there was more unique scenes like the story, like with Lake and some other scenes, then just the training every night. Just feels weird.

I see femdom is going to become more prominent, which has me excited, cause there isn't much and the training scenes onlyy feature maledom right now for bdsm. So I might hold off a couple updates to pick up again to get more femdom content. Hopefully foot worship, ass eating, facesitting, spanking mc is involved wirh other stuff.

Also question, I haven't reached yet, but see paths, is sharing route, kind of the same as Harem, but Val can have some fun too, where Harem is mainly just us having fun and Val can have fun a bit with the other Harem members only?

But, overall solid game ,and I love Valerie. Good job dev.
 
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