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His dick sure does get hard a lot around Carmen, sucks it doesn't do that for Sharon. 
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Poor little close-minded Sharon. She's such a skeptic, her distrust of the Templar, her disbelief in MC's dreams or new mental powers--she's totally out of her league with the MC and doesn't know it.
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So far as the game is structured, I think you´re be able to max all of your powers. RPG guru in me cries, but the story is king
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if you search this thread there is a guide that gives you max stats 25 stealth and 13 charisma 25 prowess
Dev has already committed to adding resources to expand his releases if his patreon hits $1500, but with peeps dropping his game on day 1 it won't happen... All you crazy followers need to throw something at the game to make it happen! I am already committing 10 bones to get it as soon as it drops... By pledging $5 you will make this happen and the $10 tier will still leak you early access...
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When choosing between prowess, charisma and stealth choose charisma, this way you can aquire ability for each stat. At certain instances throught the story you can aquire stat points, the amount of points you get is random and you may have to reload the game couple of times to get maximum. See the walkthrough, it explains how to get maximum number of points.
Get charisma up to 11 first I think... which is club in ep 1 for a start.. and then make sure you succeed in practices and make sure prowess is also 11 before meeting archon coz of Laurie..
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Hmm ... I don't remember such a scene or it will be in the future or is it another way?
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The charisma bonus for talking to the female cop appears to be fixed at +2. I went up from a 13 to a 15 every time.
In OWoD terms, Secret Whispers reminds me a bit of the higher level Auspex power telepathy because it enables thought reading and mental communication, but with the added wrinkle that the target can't distinguish between the thoughts the vampire is sending them and their own thoughts. It also seems to create a lasting fascination effect like Presence.
I'm glad to see mama redhead back too, but a little sad that she seems to care so little about the MC. Hopefully that means she'll respect the MC's independence instead of trying to turn them into a minion.
The bit about elders drinking the MC dry also reminds me of OWoD, because committing the crime of diablerie on a newly made, totally inexperienced but lower generation vampire was a relatively easy way to increase a vampire's power by reducing the number of generations between them and the first vampire (thought to be Cain in OWoD).
It's interesting that Fabian identified himself as a Thaumaturge and called the MC "cousin". In OWoD, the Tremere clan had a monopoly on Thaumaturgy, and Auspex was another of their clan powers, but Obfuscation and Protean claws certainly weren't. And while there was a perception that the Tremere weren't entirely trustworthy, and more tightly controlled by their elders than other vampires, the idea that the clan of thaumaturges are a bunch of charlatans seems new to this story. Templars were also something very different in OWoD so Fabian's clan of templar thaumaturges appears to be a notable and interesting divergence from the setting that inspired this story.
All in all its a fun little update to the story. I look forward to the next one.
In OWoD terms, Secret Whispers reminds me a bit of the higher level Auspex power telepathy because it enables thought reading and mental communication, but with the added wrinkle that the target can't distinguish between the thoughts the vampire is sending them and their own thoughts. It also seems to create a lasting fascination effect like Presence.
I'm glad to see mama redhead back too, but a little sad that she seems to care so little about the MC. Hopefully that means she'll respect the MC's independence instead of trying to turn them into a minion.
The bit about elders drinking the MC dry also reminds me of OWoD, because committing the crime of diablerie on a newly made, totally inexperienced but lower generation vampire was a relatively easy way to increase a vampire's power by reducing the number of generations between them and the first vampire (thought to be Cain in OWoD).
It's interesting that Fabian identified himself as a Thaumaturge and called the MC "cousin". In OWoD, the Tremere clan had a monopoly on Thaumaturgy, and Auspex was another of their clan powers, but Obfuscation and Protean claws certainly weren't. And while there was a perception that the Tremere weren't entirely trustworthy, and more tightly controlled by their elders than other vampires, the idea that the clan of thaumaturges are a bunch of charlatans seems new to this story. Templars were also something very different in OWoD so Fabian's clan of templar thaumaturges appears to be a notable and interesting divergence from the setting that inspired this story.
All in all its a fun little update to the story. I look forward to the next one.
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maybe he was a templat before he was turned.
could be a combined power.
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Yep. This skill seems very OP tho...
Main Characters that are too powerfull tends to become boring. The good new is Fabian is MC's "cousin"... which means "same generation"... but waaay older than the MC. So logically Fabian is more powerfull than MC, which is actually good news because a good competition with a good rival/opponent/enemy means a less boring story
While it's quite possible Fabian was an actual knight templar in his mortal life before he was turned given the suit of armor the MC saw him in, I doubt he'd have made it sound like a synonym for his bloodline if that were all there was to it. Whatever he meant by templar, it sounded like its very relevant to his bloodline, and as implied by the MC's vision, somehow connected to the MC's maker too.
That's my thought too.
He said cousin, not brother so it's not entirely clear that they have the same maker/sire or if they're even the same generation. I took it to mean that they're of the same bloodline and that their progenitors are related but not necessarily the same. But Fabian is certainly much older, and thus far more experienced.Yep. This skill seems very OP tho...
Main Characters that are too powerfull tends to become boring. The good new is Fabian is MC's "cousin"... which means "same generation"... but waaay older than the MC. So logically Fabian is more powerfull than MC, which is actually good news because a good competition with a good rival/opponent/enemy means a less boring story
On the subject of the thought implant discipline being OP, I think that would depend on how easily he can use it on elder vampires. A lot of vamp mind powers in OWoD worked easily against most mortals like that female cop but could be resisted by vampires, especially highly experienced older vampires who are familiar with the power.
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Wait, Fabian maybe older but i wouldn't say more powerful. Let's say hypothetically speaking, Mom is antediluvian Mc is direct descendant of Mom. Because Fabian called MC cousin Fabian is a descendant of a direct offspring of mom, Not a direct offspring like MC. If that makes senseYep. This skill seems very OP tho...
Main Characters that are too powerfull tends to become boring. The good new is Fabian is MC's "cousin"... which means "same generation"... but waaay older than the MC. So logically Fabian is more powerfull than MC, which is actually good news because a good competition with a good rival/opponent/enemy means a less boring story
We still don't know how old MC Mom is simply because we can only see the vision of Fabian yes he is old but i don't think he is as old as our Mom
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Tzimetze... alright I mispelt it... Tzimisce, one of the 13 main clans, very active, they were the big bad guy in VTM, and appeared as bad guys in VTM: Bloodlines, they are to put it politely the sicko's of vampire society, one of the major powers behind the Sabat who like burying their new members and beating them over the head with shovels as a "Welcome to the family".
From memory noone can stop you from making a thrall, but yeah, to Sire a Childe you need permission from higher up, so the MC could thrall Carmen.
From what we have seen the MC has already grown beyond her abilities in some ways, but not in others, to keep them together though she needs to listen, she has already seen that he knows things about her and others that he couldn't know, once they get past that I can see them getting closer, the more she denies the more she pushes him away, which he has already stated he doesnt want.
I do not believe the MC's Redhead Sire is an Antediluvian, but I do believe she is an ancient so 3rd-5th Gen, I think shes atleast 1600 years old just from her own comments, more likely 2100 years old because other vampires of around that age had been shown in other sources and they are similarly hunted for their blood when they get identified, heck there is a Lore story about a vamp of about that age who ended out the head of an Aztec Blood cult, and the whole story is about beating him and draining his blood if your lucky, thats both why she went into hiding and why she may have thought her Childe the MC would be dead, the Blood being so potent its hard to adapt your system so she didnt expect him to survive the change, and others maybe wanting to drain him if they detected his power.
My guess is once she finds out she will keep an eye on him, if only to make sure she gets to see what mischief he can cause.
With what we know of the MC's Blood so far Sharon might actually be further along than him in becoming bound to him, the stronger your blood the stronger its effect, maybe thats why she is seeming a little jealous of Carmen and Laurie.
Then again in VTM Lore, Lilith bound Caine after he turned her in the Book of Nod, it wasnt complete but she had power over him.
Possible, but then there is the lack of the third eye in both the MC and his Sire and while the MC hasn't progressed far enough in his power to get the eye, his Sire would have, Im wondering if he uses the term cousin to mean fellow magic capable entity, he did the whole converse with the dead, sure the Giovanni have some similar powers, but there are several sources refering to survivors of the Capodocians, who were hunted by the Giovanni and thought wiped out, They were one of the good guys clan wise in the Dark ages, and made the mistake of siring the ones who became the Giovanni, that Templar could very well be of one of those weird offshoots of the Capodocians, it would explain that ability, or hes a Salubri.So our lineage is Salubri or some of its branches? Our "cousin" is a Templar/Vampire mage, so that must be the equivalent of Tremere in VTM.Plus MC's disciplines can be from that Clan, Obfuscate (Invisibility), Valeren (Burning touch) and Auspex (Telephaty).
Don't trust that guy
Also the dick power is near, morning wood magic baby
While the MC could be a Salubi, I dont think it fully fits, partially because of his affection for Sharon which a Salubri would be adverse to since she seems similar to a Toreador, Could he and his Sire truely be cousins so to speak of the Salubri, another fork from the origin clan or some similar derivitive, as the Templar could infact be a Salubri Watcher, Healer, which would explain similarities and differences between them.
MC has displayed three actual disciplines from his bloodline, which is normal for any clan, Many groups have developed new Disciplines, some have even developed their own versions of other clans powers, not the same, but similar based only on what they had seen, some ancients learned from other clans or individuals, Diablerie doesnt give you your victims powers, it might give you an idea of what they knew but you'd still have to create your own interpretation.
There is another option for "cousin" -- and I'm going to highlight two things we know about Fabian. He is/was a Templar* and is a Thaumaturge. If he's rlated to the Sire, then the one-parent chain of vampires probably means she's a Thaumaturge too.
Fabian may not be a close blood relation (the usual modern use of cousin) but may be in the sense of more distant kinsman or clan or faction member. Which is to say the Sire may be a Templar or Thaumaturge, but I suspect the term cousin is used in a larger sense here.
*Whatever that means in Rebirth context. At a guess it isn't the historic Knights of the Temple nor is it Sabbat bodyguards.
In OWoD, characters could buy non clan powers for a higher cost, although some like protean and thaumaturgy required in story justification. The methusaleh (4th & 5th gen vamp) splats were long lists of powers, most of which were non clan powers. In the classic that was Chicago by Night, the 4th gen Brujah Menele for example was a master of thaumaturgy (a non clan power for Brujah) who in an act of vengeance had once used it to cause Mount Vesuvius to erupt and destroy the city of Pompei ruled by his Toreador archrival Helene.
Not to push away the hard-core WoD modellers, but we have a lot of world building in this episode. I've discussed Fabian briefly, but Sharon's conversation is telling.
First, vampires (presumably of lower generation) discover their disciplines slowly. MC's quick discovery speaks to potent blood (non-formalized age grouping) or high generation (formalized age grouping). (Also, this is not the case in the WoD -- vampires may need some guidance using discpilines in narrative, but once created they have access to them).
Second, there is an accepted lore that doesn't acknowledge outliers. Vampires can't dream because they're dead. MC's powers aren't anything anyone recognizes. Thaumaturges are charlatans (although this may be a bias of Sharon's, Merrick doesn't seem to share it).
First, vampires (presumably of lower generation) discover their disciplines slowly. MC's quick discovery speaks to potent blood (non-formalized age grouping) or high generation (formalized age grouping). (Also, this is not the case in the WoD -- vampires may need some guidance using discpilines in narrative, but once created they have access to them).
Second, there is an accepted lore that doesn't acknowledge outliers. Vampires can't dream because they're dead. MC's powers aren't anything anyone recognizes. Thaumaturges are charlatans (although this may be a bias of Sharon's, Merrick doesn't seem to share it).
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You don't need to convince me that she act out of boredom. I have supported that idea since day one. But I am not sure about the second part. If she expected him to be dead, as Fabian mentioned, why even care about leaking information?She turned him because she was likely bored. From the way Fabian talked about her i wouldn't be surprised if she leaked the information about Dan being the prole of a ancient vampiress just to stir some reaction from the other vampires and create more fun for her.
I also thought about other of mommy children having a sad fate, it was posted in a message yesterday. My thing is, going by the assumption that what Fabian said, she is not aware that MC survived the turning, so you don't protect something that you think is dead. Again, that is under the assumption that what Fabian said is true. Maybe she knows, we'll see.
YES! totally love it! please more kitty fight!!!! Mommy, the red dream beauty and Carmen should join too. gonna be awesome!!
I'm going to keep my assumption she is from a new clan, although the comment Fabian made to MC about keeping his sire's identity to himself or he will be drained suggest otherwise.So our lineage is Salubri or some of its branches? Our "cousin" is a Templar/Vampire mage, so that must be the equivalent of Tremere in VTM.Plus MC's disciplines can be from that Clan, Obfuscate (Invisibility), Valeren (Burning touch) and Auspex (Telephaty).
Don't trust that guy
Also the dick power is near, morning wood magic baby
Indeed. That is why his development should go slow. Yes, he has very powerful skills, but I am confident Sharon can still kill him on one on one, for example. The new power, however is quite OP, we will see how it is restricted. More likely, it cannot work on stronger/older/more powerful beings, so while it is clearly a stronger mind control than Sharon's for plot reasons it will remain the same.Yep. This skill seems very OP tho...
Main Characters that are too powerfull tends to become boring. The good new is Fabian is MC's "cousin"... which means "same generation"... but waaay older than the MC. So logically Fabian is more powerfull than MC, which is actually good news because a good competition with a good rival/opponent/enemy means a less boring story
Anyway, rejoice, my children, for Mommy has returned!!! Well, direct Mommy. Remember that the red dream beauty is called mom on the game pictures.