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maybe that's who Vision girl wants MC to fight?
maybe she can generate vitae without consuming blood? perhaps the bloody mist is precisely that, Vision Girl synthethysing blood from atoms.
doesn't sound that bad
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So a quick primer on Antediluvians and not at all trying to be an arrogant piece of shit, just sharing knowledge so we can have informed speculation lol
Even if Vision Girl Wants the MC to fight an Antediluvian, that is a non starter. "World of Darkness inspirational stuff-" The only Antediluvians that went down confirmed and not speculated were Cappadocius and Salout.
Tzimisce was claimed but it is more likely that he consumed all of the attackers and then took one of their identities. Lasombra in theory died beneath his castle but this is highly suspect as he could have moved into the oblivion of the utter darkness and moved out of harm's way after killing his attackers. Ventrue was rumored to be killed outside the Second City by Set and True Brujah, but this is speculation as one of his childer supposedly was also there Vedartha and supposedly diablerized his sire. The main issue with that is he is listed elsewhere as the sire of 4th and 5th generation vampires long after the supposed diablerie took place. This places Ventrue's death in doubt.
Brujah was supposedly diablerized by Troile, and there is no doubt that there are two distinct bloodlines claiming Brujah ancestry, so it is more likely that Brujah simply controlled his line better than most. Both Set and Osiris are said to have consumed their Sire together (Typhon-2nd generation, and yes they could have both lowered their generation in this way) and Set even created the Path of Typhon following this event, but even if true, that is talking about God level Antediluvians doing what was probably the manipulated actions of another Second Generation who would have helped, or even Caine himself.......
Salout was a complete whore for thousands of years, but as his self prophesized Ascension (combining himself with the soul of a former True Mage, and not just any True Mage, but one of the mightiest of True Mages to ever live, who found a way around the loss of Magick with the spread of Christianity-Tremere) came closer he limited his good kids, while his antitribu kids went nuts still.
Anyway this does not count the hundreds or thousands that died in the fighting to get down to the 13-20 Antediluvians we knew about(this was much earlier in time and their power was great but not what it has become, and like Darwin says, survival of the fittest.... this also does not count a number of likely 2nd generation vampires that either survived the attacks of their children, or became their children, or were sired and undocumented for whatever reason). The only ones confirmed to have been diablerized wanted to have that occur.
One for Ascension (Salout)and the other for some kind of Apotheosis (Cappadocius). Neither of their souls truly were consumed (which is a requirement of true Diablerie) as both of their souls inhabit the bodies of their murderers even unto modern nights.
One of the major reasons the 5th edition of VtM is complete horse shit is the premise that all the Tremere Inner Council was in one place (they almost never do that and the Second Inquisition can not track teleporting vampires) and that they killed them and Tremere with mere drone attacks on their citadel in Vienna. Flatly impossible. No Debate. Could Not Happen. Tremere as the most modern clan, and a magical clan would have tech and magic guarding themselves from military, not to mention their thralls, not to mention the Gargoyles they would send out in Daylight to intercept the drones and they could and would. So yeah 5th edition fails there.....it fails in a lot of ways but does do one thing well and that is to play out the plight of the thin blooded.
Sharon is not thin blooded, she would be considered almost an elder by 5th edition standards and she is likely 10th generation or so. (that is the highest generation you could be, and if sufficiently old and of a potent blood line, be considered an elder in 2nd edition which is the only edition that really counts-Elysium the book of playing elder bloods)
So yeah...... like no.
Self generating vitae.... well Revenants do have a limited form of this ability. So while I can not say 100% no on that, and I like the idea, but more likely it is the beast starting to rouse her and her hunger.....but a good thought....
It didn't sound that bad but it is a shitty way to end your journey in the novel don't you think ?!
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Grumble.... Mountain Dew and Coffee I tell ya.... it is a conspiracy. I usually do and Done!I think I see aYou must be registered to see the links
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I was reading the Ls as Fs until a sentence made absolutely no sense hahah.
The game is still relatively new yes? I've just downloaded it and I'm really liking it so far. From the music to the visuals and writing, everything _feels_ great.
Looking forward to playing more.
The game is still relatively new yes? I've just downloaded it and I'm really liking it so far. From the music to the visuals and writing, everything _feels_ great.
Looking forward to playing more.
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Now that you posted this it would be hella funny if suddenly Portia
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I have to catch up on so many messages.
But the current information revealed by Arigon of his messages with likesblondes about our cute, naked baby really increases chances that Artemis is vampire queen. This has always been my first assumption but at the same time my desire so I never pushed it too much simply because I was not sure if it was simply my desire pushing for that outcome.
Obviously, the very big hint was she being coded as mom. Given that Callisto is MC's vamp mom, my preferred reason for why Artemis would be "mom" is if she is mother of all vampires.. This idea is made stronger when mc feeds from sharon, and he hees artemis that tells something "nice, but remember she is not you real mother".
The other hint, the fact that they are going for 5 chapters. This is clearly going to be way shorter than all of us were hoping for. But then, it kind of make sense for the most op character to appear already.
Anyway.. I did send a message to likesblondes telling him 5 chapters was too little. He said the same he said to Arigon, that they might do extra for additional plot stories, but that given that each chapter is takin them around a year (bit less actually), they cannot commit to more than that.
But the current information revealed by Arigon of his messages with likesblondes about our cute, naked baby really increases chances that Artemis is vampire queen. This has always been my first assumption but at the same time my desire so I never pushed it too much simply because I was not sure if it was simply my desire pushing for that outcome.
Obviously, the very big hint was she being coded as mom. Given that Callisto is MC's vamp mom, my preferred reason for why Artemis would be "mom" is if she is mother of all vampires.. This idea is made stronger when mc feeds from sharon, and he hees artemis that tells something "nice, but remember she is not you real mother".
The other hint, the fact that they are going for 5 chapters. This is clearly going to be way shorter than all of us were hoping for. But then, it kind of make sense for the most op character to appear already.
Anyway.. I did send a message to likesblondes telling him 5 chapters was too little. He said the same he said to Arigon, that they might do extra for additional plot stories, but that given that each chapter is takin them around a year (bit less actually), they cannot commit to more than that.
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Sad in a way. I do believe that we would most likely have our own not that bad ideas about where the story could go, like Red Dreaming Beauty not be that of OP as she is now. Or even some more twist with Astrid or the Archons. With the right resources it could but other triple A games to shame. It is the same way I feeld about a very few other games here.
Nevertheless I can't anticipate the next chapter. Also if our MC have only three chapter left to go, he serious must step up in his game or mom would kill him.
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Yes, after Arigon said the thing about 5 chapters, I wrote to him this.Sad in a way. I do believe that we would most likely have our own not that bad ideas about where the story could go, like Red Dreaming Beauty not be that of OP as she is now. Or even some more twist with Astrid or the Archons. With the right resources it could but other triple A games to shame. It is the same way I feeld about a very few other games here.
Nevertheless I can't anticipate the next chapter. Also if our MC have only three chapter left to go, he serious must step up in his game or mom would kill him.
One thing is, not only they are very consistent, I like they are being realistic too. Unlike making impossible promises, they are managing expectations and realizations sooo well that would embarrass AAA studios.
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1400 bc its one of the theories that as strong evidence regarding the bronze age collapse that that war destabilized the central and western Mediterranean so much that social uprisings combined with droughts volcanoes and tide waves created whats considered a complex sistem critical failure!
there are other dates that range from 1300 bc to 1200 bc but the troy of the myth was at least the 3rd city in that place and the total layers of that city describe 7 different cities that got destroyed and rebuilt
as for the complex system critical failure it all comes down to economical ties! the war depleted the greatest market for the Nuragic civilization of the western Mediterranean which where the Mycenaean Greeks and combined with bad harvests there where social uprisings that disrupted the tin trade that was essential for bronze production! we must remember that that was the reason why the Egyptians went for Cyprus the only tin source in the eastern Mediterranean that ofc course cause a chain reaction with the Hittites trying to wrestle Cyprus from Egypt as they fended off the western Mediterraneans such as the Sardinia Sicilians and so forth
the other big source of tin was in eastern Iran Afghanistan so as you can imagine bronze was that valuable that could make or break a country a civilization and a culture!
by the way the mythical wealth of the Israeli king Solomon was copper the other big component in the bronze production although that is at least 200 years after the bronze age colapse so bronze kept being very valuable but there where no longer major powers taking care of business!
anyway that is all a theory you can look it up yourselves if you feel like it! another important point is that Babylon and Egypt where the great food producers (the Assyrians can technically be considered northern Babylonians) even tough they where an amorite mix) and those where the only ones who survived... they had food to keep the internal issues peaceful so to speak!
Also the nuragic civilization ... it was a strong hold civilization just as the Castro from northern Iberia or the Bhrags from Scotland all indicating civil strife... which is what we see in the Mycenaean and Cretan world as they merge into a single culture!
so an Helen of troy would be amazing if she was the "goddess" that run away to Egypt and then to the middle east and started planning her revenge against the Greek gods that backfired when they joined the roman pantheon but eventually her son Joshua the chosen drove them all back and installed his worship of the chosen as the major world religion!
that would technically make our MC the anti-christ!
i know nothing of vampires but sociological anthropology myths culture and history you can count on me! and for everything else you got google!
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Arigon What if HIM is Alexandra MC? I ask Arigon because I know he really like Alexandra too. But everyone not worried about spoilers please join this!
That would be fucking awesome!! I know it is impossible but I always wanted two games in which you play two two antagonistic characters and good and bad changes with each perspective. Maybe real nice characters you find that are super evil and real monsters were victim all along!
That would be fucking awesome!! I know it is impossible but I always wanted two games in which you play two two antagonistic characters and good and bad changes with each perspective. Maybe real nice characters you find that are super evil and real monsters were victim all along!
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I find that almost certain unlikely.
That would mean the major antagonist comes from another game. So either you believe that all the Rebirth players also play the other game or you do the explanation once again in full here, where you must respect two different audience.
Additional although Ptolemy is involved in both games this one is a corporation and can make it difficult to do the things as you like - don't know their deal and the extent of Ptolemys liberty regarding the story.
And last but not least he would tie two different games together and thus they both would influence the other and that can always end in disaster.
And in my personal opinion two link this two games is not necessary.
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was also a Greek mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, geographer and astrologer who lived between 100 and 170 AD.I more think that him would be another myth like either Calisto or even Dream Beauty. Which would mean that in the three chapters for the main story he needs to grow exponentially Goku like.
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There is a monthly installment. The story as you probably realize is the main thing, not sex renders. It is deep. It relies heavily on WoD (World of Darkness by White Wolf publishing) for inspiration, while creating its own unique story and myths.
but yeah. A year per chapter is about the pace.
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LikesBlondes is a total class act. I love the story and they are funny as they troll me on Patreon with hints lol. It drives me crazy
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