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There was a great deal of speculation regarding the attack in the woods.
It was something larger, stronger, and faster than the Feral Nos. This strongly supports that Sharon has Fortitude as a discipline to have survived the attack long enough to return home and get the MC's hyper juice in her system to heal her. Note that in the reference system, she would either have had to be on nearly zero blood with 7 wound levels and losing more from a normal lethal attack to push her into torpor, or 6 moving to 7 aggravated wounds which would have killed her. The fear and pain she was suffering seem to indicate the later statement, and it is highly likely that wearing no armor she had only Fortitude to protect her.
All that said, there was a lot of speculation about it being Werewolves, a Tzimisce warform, a Gangrel warform, or something else. At that point, we knew a lot less about certain aspects of the MC, and the bloodline he comes from. It seems highly likely to me now that Calisto staged this event, and sent Cindy or some other member of the bloodline to Ursine out and whack her hard, but not hard enough to kill. With Obfuscate, Claws-and the following developments likely being a large war form bear, and a level or three of Celerity, it is a nearly perfect combo to fit the situation in the woods. The pain. The severity of the wounds, yet, not killing her, makes Calisto likely as the agent behind the attack, but not the hand that delivered it necessarily. (though she certainly could have, and would have had the skill needed to put her down but not kill her)
I am so happy this was brought up again, as I had not had the right opening to put my latest theory out there.
As for Juan and his angst over the lack of drive.
Dude, have you ever read or played the material that this game derived it's inspiration from?
Sharon is a very carefully manipulated tool, whose entire survival hinges on the MC. Her inner need for power-Clan driven by being something like the Ventrue, and her child like delight at being named Archon are PERFECTLY portrayed for a vampire TEENGER aka Ancilla which is what she is.
The MC is being manipulated by a founder and his sire to do the things he does. Their efforts to uncover the nature of his origin is a major action. Not everything in the inspirational game was proactive on the part of the players. In fact, most of it was REACTIVE in nature, as there were Elders who were actually moving Pawn Pieces on an intricate chessboard. That is what Sharon is, a Pawn. The MC is likely a Knight in this analogy, with the highly likely outcome that Sharon is going to be sacrificed unless he does something about it. All your ranting about this change in character is also unwarranted.
Unless the MC has the unbondable trait, which is unlikely, he has stupidly put himself in a very precarious position of being susceptible to the whims of a vampire teenager, who herself is at least 1 step towards being blood bonded to the worthless Princep (or Virgil if he was crafty enough to somehow switch his blood for the Princep's in the glass of blood Sharon drank at her investiture.) She might be deeper in the well there if the Princep has managed to give her blood before through other means. This can indeed lead to changes in how they act.
The MC also is one step bonded to Calisto. He has been in react mode the entire time of this novel. He has visions which no one believed in, that would make things much more open now if they had been acted on, but so far only the hospital lead was followed up. The MC knows a lot about Carmen, but has yet to really act on it unless you chose the kinder path with regard to how you treated her.
There is a lot that depends on knowing that vampires are creatures with a different time scale than we poor humans have. This is not derived from special knowledge of the game, but simple fact of classic vampire lore. They live lives that are centuries, if not thousands of years long and may in fact have no end unless they act on it or are killed. They do not act or think like us. Remember this before you rant about not being proactive. The MC never was, and neither was Sharon. Every single thing they have done, they were either ordered to do, or have been forced to do.
Peace
It was something larger, stronger, and faster than the Feral Nos. This strongly supports that Sharon has Fortitude as a discipline to have survived the attack long enough to return home and get the MC's hyper juice in her system to heal her. Note that in the reference system, she would either have had to be on nearly zero blood with 7 wound levels and losing more from a normal lethal attack to push her into torpor, or 6 moving to 7 aggravated wounds which would have killed her. The fear and pain she was suffering seem to indicate the later statement, and it is highly likely that wearing no armor she had only Fortitude to protect her.
All that said, there was a lot of speculation about it being Werewolves, a Tzimisce warform, a Gangrel warform, or something else. At that point, we knew a lot less about certain aspects of the MC, and the bloodline he comes from. It seems highly likely to me now that Calisto staged this event, and sent Cindy or some other member of the bloodline to Ursine out and whack her hard, but not hard enough to kill. With Obfuscate, Claws-and the following developments likely being a large war form bear, and a level or three of Celerity, it is a nearly perfect combo to fit the situation in the woods. The pain. The severity of the wounds, yet, not killing her, makes Calisto likely as the agent behind the attack, but not the hand that delivered it necessarily. (though she certainly could have, and would have had the skill needed to put her down but not kill her)
I am so happy this was brought up again, as I had not had the right opening to put my latest theory out there.
As for Juan and his angst over the lack of drive.
Dude, have you ever read or played the material that this game derived it's inspiration from?
Sharon is a very carefully manipulated tool, whose entire survival hinges on the MC. Her inner need for power-Clan driven by being something like the Ventrue, and her child like delight at being named Archon are PERFECTLY portrayed for a vampire TEENGER aka Ancilla which is what she is.
The MC is being manipulated by a founder and his sire to do the things he does. Their efforts to uncover the nature of his origin is a major action. Not everything in the inspirational game was proactive on the part of the players. In fact, most of it was REACTIVE in nature, as there were Elders who were actually moving Pawn Pieces on an intricate chessboard. That is what Sharon is, a Pawn. The MC is likely a Knight in this analogy, with the highly likely outcome that Sharon is going to be sacrificed unless he does something about it. All your ranting about this change in character is also unwarranted.
Unless the MC has the unbondable trait, which is unlikely, he has stupidly put himself in a very precarious position of being susceptible to the whims of a vampire teenager, who herself is at least 1 step towards being blood bonded to the worthless Princep (or Virgil if he was crafty enough to somehow switch his blood for the Princep's in the glass of blood Sharon drank at her investiture.) She might be deeper in the well there if the Princep has managed to give her blood before through other means. This can indeed lead to changes in how they act.
The MC also is one step bonded to Calisto. He has been in react mode the entire time of this novel. He has visions which no one believed in, that would make things much more open now if they had been acted on, but so far only the hospital lead was followed up. The MC knows a lot about Carmen, but has yet to really act on it unless you chose the kinder path with regard to how you treated her.
There is a lot that depends on knowing that vampires are creatures with a different time scale than we poor humans have. This is not derived from special knowledge of the game, but simple fact of classic vampire lore. They live lives that are centuries, if not thousands of years long and may in fact have no end unless they act on it or are killed. They do not act or think like us. Remember this before you rant about not being proactive. The MC never was, and neither was Sharon. Every single thing they have done, they were either ordered to do, or have been forced to do.
Peace
