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Sandbox as a general rule are bad. The reason, though, is not causation but correlation.

The idea of sandbox is to give freedom for users to do what they want. You are mostly doing simple individual stories unrelated to each other.

But most great stories require event happenings in specific order. So you could put sandbox here but it would simply be a waste of time, as you would put a map while there was only one thing to do: again, events have specific order.

That why you would almost never see sandbox that are worth it from story point of view.
 
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juan palote

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Sandbox as a general rule are bad. The reason, though, is not causation but correlation.

The idea of sandbox is to give freedom for users to do what they want. You are mostly doing simple individual stories unrelated to each other.

But most great stories require event happenings in specific order. So you could put sandbox here but it would simply be a waste of time, as you would put a map while there was only one thing to do: again, events have specific order.

That why you would almost never see sandbox that are worth it from story point of view.
Agree. Sandbox removes any inmersion form the story, and making LI or events optional can be done without making a game sandbox, just put a choice that enabled that event/LI.

And the other excuse about repeating scenes can be done with a simple gallery.

There is no reason to make these kind of games sandbox.

But that is a bigger discussion than this game
 
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7empest5teele

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Alright, at the conversation Sharon and the MC have before seeing the Skalds I am getting red error messages saying the visuals cannot be shown, but the dialog and the character pictures are on the bottom left as usual.
I closed out the VN, unpinned it from my desktop, then reopened it again to have the same errors come up repeatedly at the same point in the story.
Is there a fix to this?
 

Dragon59

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Those books seem specifically for women. Obviously they focus more on romance, that has nothing to do with vampires as story characters.
So, "No true Scotsman," right?

It's interesting how you casually dismiss Fred Saberhagen's Dracula series, since he is known for science fiction adventure, like the Berzerker series. Bram Stoker was an Women's Romance author?
 

D3xzalias

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That list seems like a more incomplete list than the one at the top of the thread. In what way is it supposed to enlighten me on this game?
That top list is more of a suggestion of what could be in the game. While the list in the spoiler is basicly what is in the game
 

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I think the mc blew it with the meeting with the skalds. He should of went into more detail with his visions. You know mention the face he seen with a little detail. Maybe even mention the vision girl. So much he could have mentioned. He wants to know answers but too damn stupid to ask the right questions. I know the answers will come in time but it makes him seem even dumber then he should be.
 
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I think the mc blew it with the meeting with the skalds. He should of went into more detail with his visions. You know mention the face he seen with a little detail. Maybe even mention the vision girl. So much he could have mentioned. He wants to know answers but too damn stupid to ask the right questions. I know the answers will come in time but it makes him seem even dumber then he should be.
No that is stupid. You never want to show your full hand in this. It could give away a lot of the lineage MC has. As we know Calisto is really old a 4th gen vampire. So that makes MC a 5th gen and that blood is really powerful. Older Vampires that are 7 or 8th gen would like to kill him to gain his powers. So it could bring even more unwanted attention while they are trying to get everythingh in order in ScottsTown

(If you want know more on the lineage, We discussed that 50 to 75 pages back. If you go to Arigon profile and look through his post he has very good explanation on it)
 

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No that is stupid. You never want to show your full hand in this. It could give away a lot of the lineage MC has. As we know Calisto is really old a 4th gen vampire. So that makes MC a 5th gen and that blood is really powerful. Older Vampires that are 7 or 8th gen would like to kill him to gain his powers. So it could bring even more unwanted attention while they are trying to get everythingh in order in ScottsTown

(If you want know more on the lineage, We discussed that 50 to 75 pages back. If you go to Arigon profile and look through his post he has very good explanation on it)
Then what was the damn point of even going to them????? To get some kinda answer! He name dropped calisto his friggin sire. So What would it hurt to talk about the face he seen in the water? Also the vision girl. They as far as we know they have nothing to do with his lineage. Just a bunch of wild speculation that gets thrown around in this thread. A lot of which has been disproven. He could mention more about those two but not give any more info then needed. The one skald would obviously not even believe anything he said anyway. Yes I know you would argue that we learned about the name inanna.....but that's it. I check in on this thread once a week. Yes I've seen a lot of the lineage, lore and theories posted here. Like I said a lot disproven some close to being proven. ALL I'm saying is that in this case I don't think it would have been bad to try and get a little more INFORMATION from the skalds when given a damn opportunity to learn something. Especially if you are willing to go ahead and name drop your friggin sire to these guys!
 

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You're misusing the term. You said "vampires and intercourse rarely go together" whereas you should've said "vampires and intercourse rarely go together in some of the books I read".

I never read Rice nor Saberhagen nor Yarbro. But I did read Stoker and I do know about VTM and VTMB which this game is greatly inspired by, I did watch quite a few vampire movies and all of them are full of sex. It's to the point where a lot of writers equate vampires with an STD metaphor or homosexuality since they're so infused with sexual tones.

That's besides the point, anyway. Debating vampires as a genre is stupid since this is a porn game.
This is NOT a porn game. There is one instance of sex so far. There is the POSSIBILITY if you play correctly, which you will if you have to back up and re choose a dozen times, of having at least one more sex session. Everyone seems to assume it will be Sharon, but I am not 100% sure.

Vampire movies with sex.......other than some anime I am drawing a blank. Interview with a Vampire... no sex( a lot of all modern vampire "stuff" comes through Ann Rice's novels and this movie. Queen of the Damned.. explicitly showed sensualism and blood sharing, no sex.. (Ann Rice). Blade-born a Dhampir, but that was pre movie... Lots of kung fu stuff, guns, swords.... no sex. Underworld does not have a basis for this, as it links vampires and were wolves as being genetically of the same bloodline with a split, and they are procreated that way, or created, by spreading the viral infection through the bite for both Lycans and Vampires...Twighlight... glowing shitty vampire fluff, move on and stake and kill Edward. Vampire Diaries... Vampires as a back drop to typical cable soft core...again, fuck those guys.... Vampire the Masquerade, while sex is possible and used as a means of blood bonding (vampires have exactly 2 things going on in their body, vitae and saliva carrying vitae so when they cum, it is blood, both male and female), sharing blood more directly is the actual sensual act between vampires and any of their loves.

Vampires are sensual for sure. Oozing sex appeal for some clans and bloodlines... Their pleasure though, and our MC has found this out, is in the blood.

Then what was the damn point of even going to them????? To get some kinda answer! He name dropped calisto his friggin sire. So What would it hurt to talk about the face he seen in the water? Also the vision girl. They as far as we know they have nothing to do with his lineage. Just a bunch of wild speculation that gets thrown around in this thread. A lot of which has been disproven. He could mention more about those two but not give any more info then needed. The one skald would obviously not even believe anything he said anyway. Yes I know you would argue that we learned about the name inanna.....but that's it. I check in on this thread once a week. Yes I've seen a lot of the lineage, lore and theories posted here. Like I said a lot disproven some close to being proven. ALL I'm saying is that in this case I don't think it would have been bad to try and get a little more INFORMATION from the skalds when given a damn opportunity to learn something. Especially if you are willing to go ahead and name drop your friggin sire to these guys!
The MC did not say, hey what about my vamp mommy Calisto who heads up the Temple. He said he has visions, and he asked about the Temple and about the name Calisto, which the elder Skald side stepped.

As for Inanna, that is important. I am sorry if you are not seeing it that way, but it does a number of things, even if you do not agree. I truly wish you guys would put things under spoilers for at least the week after the update drops to give folks a chance to experience it themselves without seeing plot points sprayed around here.

As for the accuracy of the theory crafting, sure a lot of it goes awry, but that is the fun of it all. Discussing it. I would point out it has gotten more accurate as we progress however.

What we have on here are some folks that want a porn novel, or they want Blade or Underworld, and then we have another group that wants a more VtM feel of politics and intrigue, lore, and even some insidious horror without a name on it.

This novel can not really please all sets of groups at the same time, and it is not being presented as the first two types thus far. So we have some angry posts. These are totally within the right of the poster to express. I myself have been highly critical of some other games, mostly by Dr. Pinkcake and ICSTOR, to the point that I was temporarily banned from those forums. (booze was usually involved in those posts if I am being honest)

As I am not one of the authors, nor as far as I know, are either of them lurking under other names here, we all just have to agree to disagree on certain points, and either enjoy the novel for what it is, or do not. I am hoping for the former.
Peace y'all
 

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This is NOT a porn game. There is one instance of sex so far. There is the POSSIBILITY if you play correctly, which you will if you have to back up and re choose a dozen times, of having at least one more sex session. Everyone seems to assume it will be Sharon, but I am not 100% sure.

Vampire movies with sex.......other than some anime I am drawing a blank. Interview with a Vampire... no sex( a lot of all modern vampire "stuff" comes through Ann Rice's novels and this movie. Queen of the Damned.. explicitly showed sensualism and blood sharing, no sex.. (Ann Rice). Blade-born a Dhampir, but that was pre movie... Lots of kung fu stuff, guns, swords.... no sex. Underworld does not have a basis for this, as it links vampires and were wolves as being genetically of the same bloodline with a split, and they are procreated that way, or created, by spreading the viral infection through the bite for both Lycans and Vampires...Twighlight... glowing shitty vampire fluff, move on and stake and kill Edward. Vampire Diaries... Vampires as a back drop to typical cable soft core...again, fuck those guys.... Vampire the Masquerade, while sex is possible and used as a means of blood bonding (vampires have exactly 2 things going on in their body, vitae and saliva carrying vitae so when they cum, it is blood, both male and female), sharing blood more directly is the actual sensual act between vampires and any of their loves.

Vampires are sensual for sure. Oozing sex appeal for some clans and bloodlines... Their pleasure though, and our MC has found this out, is in the blood.
Thank you for those points.

Actually, one live action medium I just remembered that had implied that at least certain vampires were capable of intercourse was in the Buffyverse. Probably not a good example, though.
 

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Some typos/ errors i spotted:

Sharon: "But the( y) must have known already."
A whole week passed until you settle(d) back in Scottstown.
MC:"Me and Laurie(Laurie and I), that is"
Laurie: "I know where she can open up a club?" (Not a question?)
MC: "But it's the last palce(place) we saw him."
Frode: "The archong of nothing much."
Frode: "The( y) seek knowledge, Lucas."
You notice a naked woman, passes(passed) out on the couch.
MC: "Those are the terms. Take them, or no(don't?)."
Creature: "Don't stay(stray) from me."
Markus: "it's(It's) not for you, dumbass..(delete)"
Sharon: "We're having an unknown quantity(entity?) as a guest for a while."
MC: "Don't mind if I will(do?)."
Sharon: "I'm guess(ing) we'll be taking a car."
MC: "is(Is) it my turn?"
 
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Vampire movies with sex.......other than some anime I am drawing a blank. Interview with a Vampire... no sex( a lot of all modern vampire "stuff" comes through Ann Rice's novels and this movie. Queen of the Damned.. explicitly showed sensualism and blood sharing, no sex.. (Ann Rice). Blade-born a Dhampir, but that was pre movie... Lots of kung fu stuff, guns, swords.... no sex. Underworld does not have a basis for this, as it links vampires and were wolves as being genetically of the same bloodline with a split, and they are procreated that way, or created, by spreading the viral infection through the bite for both Lycans and Vampires...Twighlight... glowing shitty vampire fluff, move on and stake and kill Edward. Vampire Diaries... Vampires as a back drop to typical cable soft core...again, fuck those guys.... Vampire the Masquerade, while sex is possible and used as a means of blood bonding (vampires have exactly 2 things going on in their body, vitae and saliva carrying vitae so when they cum, it is blood, both male and female), sharing blood more directly is the actual sensual act between vampires and any of their loves.

Vampires are sensual for sure. Oozing sex appeal for some clans and bloodlines... Their pleasure though, and our MC has found this out, is in the blood.
Show me a vampire movie made in the 1980's that isn't full of sex, hell even the 1970's & 1960's had more T&A than movies made since 2000. Sex used to be the #1 ploy for the vamp to get their victim with the big bite usually happening during copulation.
 

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This is NOT a porn game. There is one instance of sex so far. There is the POSSIBILITY if you play correctly, which you will if you have to back up and re choose a dozen times, of having at least one more sex session. Everyone seems to assume it will be Sharon, but I am not 100% sure.

Vampire movies with sex.......other than some anime I am drawing a blank. Interview with a Vampire... no sex( a lot of all modern vampire "stuff" comes through Ann Rice's novels and this movie. Queen of the Damned.. explicitly showed sensualism and blood sharing, no sex.. (Ann Rice). Blade-born a Dhampir, but that was pre movie... Lots of kung fu stuff, guns, swords.... no sex. Underworld does not have a basis for this, as it links vampires and were wolves as being genetically of the same bloodline with a split, and they are procreated that way, or created, by spreading the viral infection through the bite for both Lycans and Vampires...Twighlight... glowing shitty vampire fluff, move on and stake and kill Edward. Vampire Diaries... Vampires as a back drop to typical cable soft core...again, fuck those guys.... Vampire the Masquerade, while sex is possible and used as a means of blood bonding (vampires have exactly 2 things going on in their body, vitae and saliva carrying vitae so when they cum, it is blood, both male and female), sharing blood more directly is the actual sensual act between vampires and any of their loves.

Vampires are sensual for sure. Oozing sex appeal for some clans and bloodlines... Their pleasure though, and our MC has found this out, is in the blood.



The MC did not say, hey what about my vamp mommy Calisto who heads up the Temple. He said he has visions, and he asked about the Temple and about the name Calisto, which the elder Skald side stepped.

As for Inanna, that is important. I am sorry if you are not seeing it that way, but it does a number of things, even if you do not agree. I truly wish you guys would put things under spoilers for at least the week after the update drops to give folks a chance to experience it themselves without seeing plot points sprayed around here.

As for the accuracy of the theory crafting, sure a lot of it goes awry, but that is the fun of it all. Discussing it. I would point out it has gotten more accurate as we progress however.

What we have on here are some folks that want a porn novel, or they want Blade or Underworld, and then we have another group that wants a more VtM feel of politics and intrigue, lore, and even some insidious horror without a name on it.

This novel can not really please all sets of groups at the same time, and it is not being presented as the first two types thus far. So we have some angry posts. These are totally within the right of the poster to express. I myself have been highly critical of some other games, mostly by Dr. Pinkcake and ICSTOR, to the point that I was temporarily banned from those forums. (booze was usually involved in those posts if I am being honest)

As I am not one of the authors, nor as far as I know, are either of them lurking under other names here, we all just have to agree to disagree on certain points, and either enjoy the novel for what it is, or do not. I am hoping for the former.
Peace y'all
Damm you just made think Vampires are like Hot Virgins while Lycans are Chads my Intire life i was thinking being a Vampire would be litt but now i see Lycans are much better since they can have sex... well thiking about it i think they make Vampires able to have a chad sex life to sell it to people if they knew they would be Volcels they would think being Immortal is a curse not a gift
 
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Unfortunately, many have been confused by the fact that there are two sets of tags and the two don't match. The ones under the title should be edited to match the genre tags.
well some tags are what possibly will be in game.
 

juan palote

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I think the problem is indeed we have two groups of people.

One wants the story to progress inside the game, in which i am, so we want things to happen, story progressing, our MC advancing on his knowledge of his own powers or inheritance, and we want our protagonist to do something other than being stupid and buy chairs, like they did in the first two episodes.

While the second group wants the story to progress in this forum, because they enjoy speculating. So they want nothing to happen in the game except a couple of hints each update, so they can enjoy their "real game" for them which is happening here/in the game discord/whatever other forum they can use.

The big problem is that Episode 1 and 2 were made in a way that stuff was happening inside the game, with a little bit left to speculate (so it was more aimed at the first group) while Episode 3 did a 180 turn and has very little happening in the game leaving almost everything to speculation (so more aimed to the second group)

In reality, since the hospital incident, the only two times we have been active in doing something was because we were practically forced by Marcus
 
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Unofficial Android Port for Rebirth Compressed :

Download Episode 1

Download Episode 2

Download Ep3Up1

YOU NEED TO COMPLETE EPISODE 1 USING MY PORT IN ORDER TO PLAY EPISODE 2. IT WON'T START OTHERWISE.
ALLOW STORAGE ACCESS
My Android Ports now have a 2nd Persistent save location. So, even if you uninstall the game, the saves will remain Intact.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

If it says unknown developer or something like that just press install anyway.

Give Me Your Feedback on the Discord Server. As it's easier to reach me there, than here.
Discord:
It can not find the previous saves of ep1. Which folder does it search on?
 

indio68

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so short updates...uff i like the stpry so much i would see more ..damn waiting on updates killing me..so many good story games on Hold...
 
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