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A stained soul does not sound very good, I've always avoided it. But I've to admit I don't know what it means in-game.
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Hotfix updated for Ep.4 Update 1
Incorporates fixes for bugs reported by c3p0, frogbert and Nulldev, plus a couple of others and a few typos.
* At least that's how the feral Nos thing is supposed to work, but due to a bug Markus doesn't talk about the hideout if you didn't tell Virgil the feral was Nos. You need a patch or the hotfix to correct this.
Incorporates fixes for bugs reported by c3p0, frogbert and Nulldev, plus a couple of others and a few typos.
No, didn't read it that way at all? The Creature comes off as hostile, and was the only one to 'threaten' the MC. He's been like that throughout the game, but might just be playing up the monstrous thing to mess with the newbie vamp, like Frank did with Ivy. Markus saying maybe later was just a joke, not an actual threat? If Markus didn't respect the MC, or was actually hostile, he wouldn't tolerate the MC telling the Creature to shut up, or discuss his history with the hideout (provided you didn't lose his trust by outing the feral Nos to Virgil *).
* At least that's how the feral Nos thing is supposed to work, but due to a bug Markus doesn't talk about the hideout if you didn't tell Virgil the feral was Nos. You need a patch or the hotfix to correct this.
He might not know what Calisto is exactly, but he'd have to know she's powerful to justify having Cindy turn up for her at events as a proxy. Plus he'd know of Frank's history with Calisto & the temple, and that it was Calisto that 'fixed' Frank & Merrick.
Hasn't had much impact apart from getting that lewd or not. On principle I'd say bad, and it's been suggested it's associated with making the MC less human. The fact there's an opportunity to reverse it in the current update suggests it's undesirable.
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You can't make Ivy a possible LI without her being thralled... It should not come as a shock to anyone who has followed the threads here. It was reported early on about Ivy being one of the 5 possible LI's in the game. Besides IMO I like redheads.
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there is nothing wrong with having dozen of LIs, if the devs can manage it ofc.
the problem could be forced things, particularly with LIs included.
for example, I dont see Ivy as a LI, Im not slightly interested in her (standardized redheads freckles cliche and (borderline) loli naive character isnt my thing), so if her being thralled is prerequisite for her becoming legitimate LIs, my only answer is - WTF.
the game is great so far, the story is quite entertaining, yet despite occasional flaws images/avatars related, there are occasional flaws related to script/writing. Imo thralling/forcing Ivy is one of those. Yet, Im not that familiar with this game, and its lore, so I might be wrong...at least hope so
"It had to be done." is not a good reason for why it happened, but an excuse for how it happened. It was bad. The whole thralling business is handled pretty badly in this game. It's like it's in limbo between being this very repulsive thing, but at the same time it's done casually without a second thought.the game is great so far, the story is quite entertaining, yet despite occasional flaws images/avatars related, there are occasional flaws related to script/writing. Imo thralling/forcing Ivy is one of those. Yet, Im not that familiar with this game, and its lore, so I might be wrong...at least hope so
Why even have the PC say that it's a difficult thing for him to do, when he's never shown to have any difficulties with actually going through with it? Laurie's thralling was kind of the same, but Ivy's thralling exposing the PC as a fucking dumbass with goldfish memory was just the cherry on top.
Even though this game is very heavy on the story and the porn is almost non-existent, the thralls are a very trashy aspect of it, which exists for seemingly no other reason than for some thinly veiled maledom and harem fetish. The lore won't fix this, because, even if you're very much into the lore, you'll still have to read the shoddy dialogue and story surrounding the thralls, if you want to play the game. It's not satisfying for those, who are into it and it's annoying for those that think it's cringy wishfulfillment in an otherwise mature story.
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you might be right, thralling, at least when mc is involved, certainly seems to be related to dom/daddy and (planned) harem kinks...as far as im seeing it, the only exception from common sub/dom relation between masters/vampires and their servants/thralls, is sharon (mc not incleded, as that depends on players choices, to an extant - for example, in my game mc has no intention of being "daddy" to laurie
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No
No one forgot Virgil and Eloise.
Episode 3 ended with the setup to go to Ereshkigal's tomb and it set up a huge fight, the first of several for the rest of the novel.
I pointed out Virgil and Eloise etc long ago.
That will play out as it comes.
No werewolf. Calisto hit Sharon to set things in motion.
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gameplay, story, appearance and etc. Very interesting, I liked it a lot, the only thing that bothers me is the save transfer, it could be a single file with Episodes I, II, III, IV.
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I will point out that at the time that Markus insisted that we thrall Ivy, it was to bring her down to interrogate her. Now in all honesty, the MC does not know if Markus has other means of interrogation in his back pocket than just asking the question, so starting the path to thralling her is not a bad option.
As far as her being thralled to be a LI, you have 2 paths, neither of which are attractive to those who do not like coercion.
Brain fucking her
Thralling-which is a form of brain fucking her.
Otherwise she has no reason to be involved.
Vampires are all about brain fucking normal humans to get what they want.
This is not a pro human rights novel.
This is a vampire novel.
Just saying.
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As far as her being thralled to be a LI, you have 2 paths, neither of which are attractive to those who do not like coercion.
Brain fucking her
Thralling-which is a form of brain fucking her.
Otherwise she has no reason to be involved.
Vampires are all about brain fucking normal humans to get what they want.
This is not a pro human rights novel.
This is a vampire novel.
Just saying.
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The issue isn't that Ivy was thralled/mind-fucked, both MC & Markus want her around for her speleological skills, even if MC doesn't pursue her romantically. The problem is how it was executed.
MC knows from the outset there's no point Markus talking to Ivy because she's been mind-fucked. After thralling Ivy & bringing her to Markus, he immediately tells him so, he's not even protecting any info by withholding the facts up front. For those not on the callous ass route, this is choosing to screw Ivy up even further for nothing, while telling Sharon how torn up about it he is. In this scenario it would make more sense if MC told Markus Ivy couldn't help from the start, in which case there's no reason to go through with the thralling.
It would have been better to justify thralling Ivy because they want her to accompany them to the cave, rather than just Markus wants to talk to her. Nice guy MC doesn't want to keep messing with Ivy's head, so if they need her to hang with a bunch of Nos thralling is the only remaining option which doesn't end with Ivy dead.
I also thought it was interesting Ivy felt there was something dangerous in the cave, while Andrew & Markus don't pick up on it at all.
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It is interesting.
Andrew not feeling anything is the one I find confusing though.
MC is of the bloodline of Ereshkigal's frenemy Inanna. I can understand him feeling uneasy.
Initially Frank and Merrick would not have felt uneasy, they are from Ereshkigal's bloodline.
Markus is as well.
I have mentioned that it is highly likely that each of the Sisters have more than one bloodline. It could be possible that Sharon's bloodline is an offshoot. This would explain the Andrew issue. Would mean, if true, that Sharon will not feel it.
Laurie should feel it in spades. She already displays a very heightened awareness. Add to that the MC blood. She should be sensitive. Ivy should be just as sensitive this time around.
As far as bonding Ivy, folks are going to make whatever they are going to make of it. Likesblondes and Ptolemy have their story and their reasons for doing it the way they did. So, it is what it is. At the end of the day, most vampires do not give a fuck about who they are going to bind, unless it is going to get them in trouble.
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Certainly they have their reasons, yet that doesnt mean they cant be wrong at times.
Otherwise why bother with bright/dark paths/points, why giving mc choices and putting in his head various "human" thoughts, just to make it worthless a bit latter. Better make it then as with Sharon - she is trying to keep her "humanity" and dont be an ordinary vampire, yet she absolutely has no problems with brain fucking someone, with no guilt monologue/dialogue afterwards or prior (ok mc is a youngling, unsure, etc..yet that whole setup could be done better, imo).
If that is how the vampire things are supposed to be, then make MC more ruthless by default (limit his free will/choices, cut off his thoughts and all that hunt/dont hunt humans masquerade). That way they can make it proper sub-dom power-fantasy game (whole vampire setup is a great opportunity for that). Tons of dom-kink lovers are eagerly waiting for similar opportunity, no doubt.
As the things stand the game/script is like an ordinary thrall - something in between, not sure in itself, and highly dependent on master/writers mood swings
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yes and no. we don't know atm if its bad if "gift" was given to "mommy". 1 path given, other path not given.