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The Astrid debate comes down to two options... Keep her penned up forever, ever mindful that if she escapes she would be a threat to your household. She proved that she is a hateful shrew of a bitch. Being immortal that would be a fate worse than death. that is option 1. Or the more merciful way out would be to let her go with Callisto. In this instance death would have been seen as the more desirable alternative. Hence option 2. To analyze any further to try to put human characteristics' on a decidedly unhuman entity is like putting lipstick on a pig.
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I won't further spoil spoilers except to say that she is a cunt. If Calisto eats her, good. If Calisto uses her and gives her to a pack of dogs, good. If Calisto uses her, breaks her, gives her back to you to dispose of, better.
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First Astrid did not find herself in the cage for no reason. If what you say is true then a thrall would be able to socially upgrade her position deliberately, I can't see that... She would be totally dedicated to Marcius if what you say is true she would have acted as his agent. As a thrall of the court I would imagine Astrid be required to check in. There were no inquiries into her whereabouts to you by the court during her incarceration. If in fact she was acting covertly the Court would have sent her and would have been curious as to why she hadn't checked in, I see no evidence of that at all.
Unless you allowed her to bite you I see no way that Astrid would have a clue as to who your lineage might be. Even then all she would have is the potency of your blood. She was playing you to gain sympathy to escape only, To this point I have seen only Virgil aware of who Callisto is. She effectively had fallen off the map for a few hundred years and would still be underground had she not turned you. No I perceive during the initial contact with the Court Astrid saw you as a thrallable boy toy. at best , and a banquet at worst. When introduced to Callisto Astrid had no clue as to whom she was in the presence of. Astrid as you say is a manipulative hedonistic piece of work.
If in fact what you say is true I would be shocked, but then who am I we both like to reason so We shall see if either of us have a clue or if Arigon will come and spank us both LOL.
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that's what you are supposed to do. although no idea if save transfer works in android.
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Spankings will continue until morale improves!!!!
Actually, you are more correct.
Astrid thinks of you as some nameless, clanless nobody, who happens to be attractive to her. She wants you to get to Sharon. First to humiliate her, next to win her back. Astrid in her own twisted way is in love with Sharon.
As for Marcius, Astrid serves him. She is not his thrall though. She has not ranted to be given back to him, which an addict would rant. She does serve him willingly. I believe that she came to Scottstown on her own more or less. Perhaps volunteering to keep an eye on things, but her focus was Sharon.
She has nooooooooooo clue who Calisto is or she would be terrified. She certainly does not think you are Calisto's childe.
Overall I agree.
Astrid will have one of 3 outcomes here-
1- Devoured by Calisto entirely.
2- Broken by Calisto to serve her in some fashion.
3- Broken by Calisto and given back to her favorite obsession *the MC. For his pleasure. I believe that 1 and 3 lead to her death. 2 will lead to her having a small amount of story before her death. Astrid is not going to survive. I could be wrong, but I am betting on 3. Calisto will use Astrid hard, break her, then give her to the MC to dispose of as a gift of her own, for sending the MC to certain death, and he proved more resilient and lived.
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Related but unrelated post.
Sins of the Sires which is a Choice book is out.
It is an odd duck. No where near as good as Nightroad, but it is entertaining.
Might give you a glimpse into what powerful vampires, who sire powerful childer and how that childer acts might be like.
Which would give you some taste of what the MC might be like.
I am not whole heartedly endorsing. I am saying it gives you some interesting insight into vampires of 5th Edition Masquerade which is NOT the inspiration- 2nd edition is more the inspiration.
peace y'all
Sins of the Sires which is a Choice book is out.
It is an odd duck. No where near as good as Nightroad, but it is entertaining.
Might give you a glimpse into what powerful vampires, who sire powerful childer and how that childer acts might be like.
Which would give you some taste of what the MC might be like.
I am not whole heartedly endorsing. I am saying it gives you some interesting insight into vampires of 5th Edition Masquerade which is NOT the inspiration- 2nd edition is more the inspiration.
peace y'all
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ok guys but my question was why would she allowed herself to be captured?
she can assume she was stronger then Sharon and the MC put together but once she is caged in and with Andrew suport she can not hope to overcome!
she might be hedonistic but she is hardly a dumb cunt so there had to be more to her allowing herself to be captured then just trying to get get Sharon back! a pathway into political power by becoming an agent of the temple would be a good reason!
she might not have known who Calisto was but once Virgil shows up she knows somethings up since very rarelly the court cares about the archons bussinesses! can not be that hard to pin point that the only thing diferent is the MC who happens to be under the protection of her former lover... so pathway into the MC and from the MC to whatever hidden power is behind the new manouvers that puts a teenager on a throne... she is not a teenager vampire who is clueless, so she must have felt something is amiss!
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as for her thralling she might have a kind of Andrew thralling that enables her to work on her own accord or just a slight princeps Sharon thralling that does not enable her to lie to Marcius! besides you can rationalise almost anything so her conscious can lie to her saying it is to protect Marcius while her unconcious is like "yey more power more freedom less Marcius...!"
not an expert at VTM but i am not brainless either!
thats one of the greatest miss conceptions in world history, flat terrain is hard to defend and easy to attack as for the cold... just use a fucking jacket instead of being effemenate idiots who treasure style over confort....
only advantage of the thawing is that being a natural helps a bit but nothing that good organisation and some proper planning can not overcome and if you are on the offensive thats like text book noob knowledge! as state of the 68 times they won 66 and only the french and the germans managed to fuck themselves up!
the french because they planed to have it finished before winter set in and waited 3 weeks in moscow and the germans because they delayed the operation barbarossa for 2 months and winter came 1 month earlyer! (and the russians managed an amazing feat or organization where they where able to get 5 million soldiers from eastern siberia into the batlefield in less then 3 months... fucking hell the one´s in charge where not commies at heart thats for sure, still one hell of a organisation and logistic nightmare overcome... amazing!)
she can assume she was stronger then Sharon and the MC put together but once she is caged in and with Andrew suport she can not hope to overcome!
she might be hedonistic but she is hardly a dumb cunt so there had to be more to her allowing herself to be captured then just trying to get get Sharon back! a pathway into political power by becoming an agent of the temple would be a good reason!
she might not have known who Calisto was but once Virgil shows up she knows somethings up since very rarelly the court cares about the archons bussinesses! can not be that hard to pin point that the only thing diferent is the MC who happens to be under the protection of her former lover... so pathway into the MC and from the MC to whatever hidden power is behind the new manouvers that puts a teenager on a throne... she is not a teenager vampire who is clueless, so she must have felt something is amiss!
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as for her thralling she might have a kind of Andrew thralling that enables her to work on her own accord or just a slight princeps Sharon thralling that does not enable her to lie to Marcius! besides you can rationalise almost anything so her conscious can lie to her saying it is to protect Marcius while her unconcious is like "yey more power more freedom less Marcius...!"
not an expert at VTM but i am not brainless either!
if you speak of the russians they lost most of those wars only a true idiot like napoleon and hitler managed to fuck it up so badly that they got crushed but everyone else from the poles to the mongols just waltzed in! (keeping it is diferent then winning)! (do pay attention that the sweadish northern empire went south instead of marching on moscow and lost the war at poltava because the saxon allies and the polish reenforcements and 2 of their armies never reached their emperor charles so they went against the russians outnumbered... and they never made a b line straight to moscow...)Just as the current events can remind us, despite the historical warnings there are "hardly dumbs", who tried to march an army thru on a thawing ground
thats one of the greatest miss conceptions in world history, flat terrain is hard to defend and easy to attack as for the cold... just use a fucking jacket instead of being effemenate idiots who treasure style over confort....
only advantage of the thawing is that being a natural helps a bit but nothing that good organisation and some proper planning can not overcome and if you are on the offensive thats like text book noob knowledge! as state of the 68 times they won 66 and only the french and the germans managed to fuck themselves up!
the french because they planed to have it finished before winter set in and waited 3 weeks in moscow and the germans because they delayed the operation barbarossa for 2 months and winter came 1 month earlyer! (and the russians managed an amazing feat or organization where they where able to get 5 million soldiers from eastern siberia into the batlefield in less then 3 months... fucking hell the one´s in charge where not commies at heart thats for sure, still one hell of a organisation and logistic nightmare overcome... amazing!)
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Just as the current events can remind us, despite the historical warnings there are "hardly dumbs", who tried to march an army thru on a thawing ground
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she has some plan (or had if she was given to mommy) but what it is/was we don't know.
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She felt over confident.
She thought she would have more influence than she obviously did.
She knows nothing of Temple business, particularly regarding Calisto and MC.
MC is a mutt to her. Sharon and manipulating Sharon is her goal.
She badly miscalculated. Additionally, unless you were silly, you gave her to Calisto, which she was NOT counting on, and has no idea what danger she is in. If you were silly and spared her, then you get what you deserve at the house. It won't score you points with Sharon. Well, unless you count negative points.
Astrid is a loose cannon slut/whore/cunt. She lies. She can not be trusted. She can not be redeemed. She is what she is.
And she will not survive the novel. Even if you try to keep her. She is just a fucking mess and needs death.
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She thought she would have more influence than she obviously did.
She knows nothing of Temple business, particularly regarding Calisto and MC.
MC is a mutt to her. Sharon and manipulating Sharon is her goal.
She badly miscalculated. Additionally, unless you were silly, you gave her to Calisto, which she was NOT counting on, and has no idea what danger she is in. If you were silly and spared her, then you get what you deserve at the house. It won't score you points with Sharon. Well, unless you count negative points.
Astrid is a loose cannon slut/whore/cunt. She lies. She can not be trusted. She can not be redeemed. She is what she is.
And she will not survive the novel. Even if you try to keep her. She is just a fucking mess and needs death.
Peace
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herm dude... does she remind you of someone who you might have had some "issues" in the past? your dark jungian shadow came off a bit strong there, mate...
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Her reaction when MC was giving her to Calisto was hilarious. She's no idea what she's in for, and I couldn't stop giggling during that scene.
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very true and when she saw her faith same.
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Lol.
No, she thankfully doesn't remind me of anyone in my past. She is pretty much what I described though.
Theory crafting does allow us to make mega monsters out of merely clueless narcissists, but she is much more than a narcissist. She is also not clueless about a lot of things.
Unfortunately for Astrid, the things she IS clueless about are going to put her into a no win situation.
If she is devoured at the Temple, we will likely get a footnote about her. If our Mommy decides we could learn something valuable by feeding her to us as a gift, then I am going to straight up drain her.
If anyone thinks she can charm, fight, or otherwise overcome the Temple, I have news for you.
Not Happening.
It is amusing that she thinks she can win in a fight against the MC. I find a lot about her amusing in a pitying way.
Still, fucking her and draining her might be a possibility for those who like Astrid. I see no way for her to be spared though.
It would be fantastic if Marcius came for her and faced off against the MC and was destroyed in front of Astrid. That would be worth the price of admission.
Ah well. Back to the very real, very ugly world.
Peace y'all
Wow this game is pretty good, I played Episode 1-3 and I’m about to play Episode 4 in a minute