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Avaron1974

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not necessarly... in the source material, when two vampires contribute to the embrace, the lowest blood is the sire
True, except here Sharon was very much alone when the embrace happened, MC didn't contribute at all.

Nothing fed beforehand counts, it needs to be after and she's already turned now so that baby is all Sharon.

It's incredibly weird you're so set on MC being her sire when he had nothing to do with it....... That's Olympic levels of mental gymnastics.
 

D Dog

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The question I have for everyone (sorry if it is already mention) with MC feeding Laurie his blood and Sharon embrace Laurie, does Laurie's blood mixed in with MC blood (agreed prob small) have any effect on Sharon?
 
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I know that the Rebirth theory is slightly different than VtM which states 'While two vampires can theoretically feed their Vitae to a candidate for an Embrace, the resulting vampire will generally have both the clan and generation as if the lower generation parent had performed the Embrace'. Obviously if Sharon did drain Laurie then she would be the sire. However, Sharon was not sure if she had performed the embrace properly, soooo as some have speculated above if she didn't fully drain Laurie there may well be some residual MC blood in Laurie' system, in which case - long shot at best - the MC could end up being Laurie's sire... Sharon's comment suggests that the devs seemed to want to leave uncertainty in our minds. Consequently I am happy to wait until we become better informed as to the devs thinking in future updates.
 

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It'll be interesting to see where the writers go with Laurie from here on out. She's now a vamp of her own, so--assuming that the blood bond won't carry over--one major change is she'll be able to decide for herself what she thinks of MC. It's very possible that she'll hate him now. She might be less jealous of Sharon, or maybe not if it's more of a love/hate dynamic with MC.

The other major change is that she won't necessarily be under MC's protection anymore, especially if she decides she hates him. She'll be BY FAR the weakest of the vamps we've met. She's a fledgling, but she won't have anywhere near the growth curve that we saw with MC. Sharon has been a vamp for almost 60 years and she has what, three powers? It took her two years to learn to do her "eye thing". And Laurie is going to develop slower and be less powerful than that. Also, Laurie will have AT BEST only the powers that Sharon has, so it'll be a case of "anything you can do, I can do better".

So I'm gonna make a prediction (not betting any body parts, sorry): Laurie will give MC an ultimatum to choose between her and Sharon. MC will probably not even get an option to go with her (because that would cause too much story split). She rides off into the sunrise and probably dies quickly. So she dies either way (whether Sharon saved her or not), leaving us to realize that we had doomed her the moment we brought her into this.
 

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It'll be interesting to see where the writers go with Laurie from here on out. She's now a vamp of her own, so--assuming that the blood bond won't carry over--one major change is she'll be able to decide for herself what she thinks of MC. It's very possible that she'll hate him now. She might be less jealous of Sharon, or maybe not if it's more of a love/hate dynamic with MC.

The other major change is that she won't necessarily be under MC's protection anymore, especially if she decides she hates him. She'll be BY FAR the weakest of the vamps we've met. She's a fledgling, but she won't have anywhere near the growth curve that we saw with MC. Sharon has been a vamp for almost 60 years and she has what, three powers? It took her two years to learn to do her "eye thing". And Laurie is going to develop slower and be less powerful than that. Also, Laurie will have AT BEST only the powers that Sharon has, so it'll be a case of "anything you can do, I can do better".

So I'm gonna make a prediction (not betting any body parts, sorry): Laurie will give MC an ultimatum to choose between her and Sharon. MC will probably not even get an option to go with her (because that would cause too much story split). She rides off into the sunrise and probably dies quickly. So she dies either way (whether Sharon saved her or not), leaving us to realize that we had doomed her the moment we brought her into this.
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I know that the Rebirth theory is slightly different than VtM which states 'While two vampires can theoretically feed their Vitae to a candidate for an Embrace, the resulting vampire will generally have both the clan and generation as if the lower generation parent had performed the Embrace'. Obviously if Sharon did drain Laurie then she would be the sire. However, Sharon was not sure if she had performed the embrace properly, soooo as some have speculated above if she didn't fully drain Laurie there may well be some residual MC blood in Laurie' system, in which case - long shot at best - the MC could end up being Laurie's sire... Sharon's comment suggests that the devs seemed to want to leave uncertainty in our minds. Consequently I am happy to wait until we become better informed as to the devs thinking in future updates.
that's why I keep hounding that theory... according to the lore, it takes a month for the regent's vitae to leave a thrall's system.
 
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It'll be interesting to see where the writers go with Laurie from here on out. She's now a vamp of her own, so--assuming that the blood bond won't carry over--one major change is she'll be able to decide for herself what she thinks of MC. It's very possible that she'll hate him now. She might be less jealous of Sharon, or maybe not if it's more of a love/hate dynamic with MC.

The other major change is that she won't necessarily be under MC's protection anymore, especially if she decides she hates him. She'll be BY FAR the weakest of the vamps we've met. She's a fledgling, but she won't have anywhere near the growth curve that we saw with MC. Sharon has been a vamp for almost 60 years and she has what, three powers? It took her two years to learn to do her "eye thing". And Laurie is going to develop slower and be less powerful than that. Also, Laurie will have AT BEST only the powers that Sharon has, so it'll be a case of "anything you can do, I can do better".

So I'm gonna make a prediction (not betting any body parts, sorry): Laurie will give MC an ultimatum to choose between her and Sharon. MC will probably not even get an option to go with her (because that would cause too much story split). She rides off into the sunrise and probably dies quickly. So she dies either way (whether Sharon saved her or not), leaving us to realize that we had doomed her the moment we brought her into this.
Well, you are one of those guys that just want to watch the world burn, right?! :lepew:
 

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It'll be interesting to see where the writers go with Laurie from here on out. She's now a vamp of her own, so--assuming that the blood bond won't carry over--one major change is she'll be able to decide for herself what she thinks of MC. It's very possible that she'll hate him now. She might be less jealous of Sharon, or maybe not if it's more of a love/hate dynamic with MC.

The other major change is that she won't necessarily be under MC's protection anymore, especially if she decides she hates him. She'll be BY FAR the weakest of the vamps we've met. She's a fledgling, but she won't have anywhere near the growth curve that we saw with MC. Sharon has been a vamp for almost 60 years and she has what, three powers? It took her two years to learn to do her "eye thing". And Laurie is going to develop slower and be less powerful than that. Also, Laurie will have AT BEST only the powers that Sharon has, so it'll be a case of "anything you can do, I can do better".

So I'm gonna make a prediction (not betting any body parts, sorry): Laurie will give MC an ultimatum to choose between her and Sharon. MC will probably not even get an option to go with her (because that would cause too much story split). She rides off into the sunrise and probably dies quickly. So she dies either way (whether Sharon saved her or not), leaving us to realize that we had doomed her the moment we brought her into this.
Or MC just spank her, like a toddler who wants to probe a wallsocket with a fork, and feed her some blood.
 
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I don't think her getting fed on by Mommy Calisto will change much if Sharon turned her then she'll probably develop some run of the mill abilities like the one Sharon uses, though I am curious to see what the marked variable means now that Laurie has been turned.
I think he was speaking of the MC's enthrallment of Laurie before she was turned. Her being enthralled gives the thrallee superhuman strength as well as other attributes. Whether that would increase the likelihood of Laurie being stronger than just from being sired by Sharon alone possibly elevating Laurie to possibly a few levels higher than by regular means. Putting her considering Sharon in about a lvl. 9 or 10 could boost Laurie to a couple of lvl's higher to a posible lvl 7 or 8 on Par with some Archons.
 

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I'm not so sure of that.
The rules about siring haven't changed just because some of you want to twist it that the MC is magically it.

Any blood fed before the embrace doesn't count, it needs to be after and Sharon was the only one there.

I think he was speaking of the MC's enthrallment of Laurie before she was turned. Her being enthralled gives the thrallee superhuman strength as well as other attributes.
Thralls are still human. The only bonus they get is they don't age.
 
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The rules about siring haven't changed just because some of you want to twist it that the MC is magically it.

Any blood fed before the embrace doesn't count, it needs to be after and Sharon was the only one there.



Thralls are still human. The only bonus they get is they don't age.
This tread is full of theory crafting and so that is my theory in regard to this story,,, Many things are cannon and yet others are subject to artistic license. Laurie in the state I am suggesting would be a formidable ally in the upcoming fight. I say a level 8 would be much more InLight to help instead of a paltry level 11 or 12. Do you have proof that a thrall that was given blood from a level 5 vamp. would have no effect. Or that the Dev's would not deviate from the norm, by addressing this fly in the ointment. I agree all this is speculation, and no I like my body parts so no betting today. I am entitled to my opinion as are you.
 

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This update reminded me of some failed D&D campaigns I did when I was younger
"Wait, don't attack yet ! We are not ready! Something is fishy!"
"I don't care, I'm strong enough. Take my AXE" *rolls a critical failure*
"..."
"HELP"
:ROFLMAO:
Literally everything that could go wrong did go wrong. lmao
 

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Hey I just finished the update for Episode 4, I didn’t see that coming, Laurie is becoming a vampire, the Nos are gone probably in the elder control and now I’m curious on how the rest of the story will go
 
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uhhh Laurie is far from being free and 100% she couldn't have developed more bond with someone than either the MC or Sharon depending on which it is between the 2 that turns out being her Sire. As someone mentioned before Sharon may be who did the turn but Laurie is and had recently been a thrall stage 2 for our mc and had his blood, however much it was present in her body still and Sharon doesn't even know if she did things right and she doesn't nor couldn't have no where near the blood and effect over and on Laurie that she does with the thralling and the lust/love crush she has for the mc. I'd be surprised really if mc was NOT the sire and dom leader over Laurie if she is still alive in most like to be the more likely case. Well it seems it would be the more likely version for most routes/play of people's choices so far I think anyways. I'm just wondering and starting to get frustrated with the complete lack of Sharon anything like we saw in flashback scene/s where we are being shown in her past type of relationship with Astrid and her actually being sexually involved with another being cause We still have yet to even get a fuckin HJ from her and the mc has fucked Calisto at least twice, some rando cop lady, Carmen and I don't know if anymore off top head but In my playthrough I'm far more intersested in Sharon and really want to begin a deeper relationship with her and have been sicne well Day 1 she saves us and met. Especially after making the Calisto prick of your pecker from sleeping to erect in a blink of the eye hard-on she gives mc in bath showing what I think DEV wanted to CLEARLY MAKE A KNOWN FACT OR A FOLLOW UP ON SHARON'S PAST MENTION OF SEX TO MC IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO CORRECT and that no matter what prior to sex mc is in no need of a blood doll or dolls. The mc can and does fuck her with ease reulting in little side effects with him having light headed effect & is all shown at least. I dont know why but it seems not sex is not at all like Sharon has come to find out it was for her in her Vamp life or if she did try with a male vamp but IT'S SO FAR PAST TIME THE MC AND SHARON FUCK ALREADY! SHE'S HOT AND HE HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR HER AND CLEARLY SHE IS ON THE SAME PAGE WITH HER FEELINGS SHE SURELY HAS FOR HIM/US. Can we please get them together no matter any other female first...... I mean it's a slap in the face where the mc gets with Carmen and then even fucks Calisto again and Sharon is still only left with kisses, WOW SLOW IT DOWN YA HORN DOG! This statement for me feels off and is even weird for me because Calisto my fav and my kind of woman I love, She is just a Bad Bitch. But even though Calisto is by far my personal fav and want it some how to very soon made a choice to go to her and first find her stalker/ stage 5 or 500 clinger that will be 2 feet from her asshole cause of her view of the very sickly/ fucked up twisted obsession she has for Calisto. So I Find her and clearly make known she is NOT TO BE NEEDED & FUCK OFF FOREVER OR DIE and of course she is following us so she dies and after Calisto and I make way back to the plot/story we are left wiith to resume but she is my main chic along with Sharon as her new "helper" lol and Every day and night they both ride my cock and have crazy fuck fests the rest of our days with some cool exciting drama here and there for me and my 2 ladies to go fuck up and destroy in where slowly but surley my queens and I take full power over the princeps and I am crowned King of all the Underworld/Afterlife and I am to have a long and epic REIGN with 2 queens that are every fuckers dream of having and every chic that comes to my court gets fucked as a welcome and her paying respects to the Crown and serves in Harem for her time and then onto where or what I dictate.... OOPs sorry got carried away as usual but yeah uhhh SHARON NEEDS AND WANTS TO BE FUCKED BY US AND HAS BEEN WANTING DONE SO SINCE WE FIRST MOVED TO WHERE WE JUST BOUT DIED!!! WE NEED TO FUCK AT LEAST BEFORE THAT SHIT HAPPENS BUT EVEN SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW AT THE END OF THIS UPDATE IS THE LEAD UP TO THEM GOING HOME NOW TO BOTH GOING FOR SHOWER AND THEY FUCK IN THE SHOWER OR FIRST OFF BEGIN IN THE SHOWER WHERE IT LEADS TO THE BED, THE WALLS, FLOOR,BED,STANDING IN THE WINDOW AND ALL NIGHT YS BOTH LET OUT THE LAST LONG WAITED TIME TOGETHER RIGHT UP UNTIL IT'S VERY CLEAR DAWN IS ABOUT 30 MINUTES FROM CROWNING SUNLIGHT AND YA BOTH VERY MUCH SWEATY,TIRED AND VERY MUCH DEEPLY ENTANGLED & INVOLVED IN THE OTHER AND THEIR EMOTION KISS EXTREME LIKE UP TIL YA STARE IN HER EYES UP TO WHERE YA BOTH SEE BLACK AND OUT FOR THE DAY TIME! All day you see future events and life and it's clear you will be around a very long time and it's clear that 2 things are for sure to be a fact you smile about when waking up to her sleeping still but just how it was before sleep took both of ya, nut Calisto and Sharon are the 2 things that will join in one and they will be by your side for an extremely crazy journey of many things but wild and crazy fuck hot sex is a very action packed event that dominates the long time y'all have ahead and what else could be better than that!!!!!! I would say I'd wait to see if anything said could be better but NOT Happening..... lol SEE YA FUCKERS
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Welp.. now I know what the definition of 'fan girl' is..
 
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