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Zoey Raven

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there are choice or i can skip the mod?
Correct, no choices, but I have to update the jumps anyway for someone who starts the game new and is using the mod. Cheers!

FYI - Based on their previous games, I doubt there will be any more choices at this point. I could be wrong, but that's the was it was with the other ones these guys have worked on. There just stopped being choices at the end and what you had chose before dictated things, which is kinda how is probably should be. But, I think I'll have choice in my game up until the end. To each their own I guess on that.
 

Niuul

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Went through the entire game again and I'm still confused as to what the entire point of giving the MC all these powers was. MC is clearly not as strong as his Sire is, well... was. So unless there's gonna be a huge asspull that lets the MC somehow gain power from the ancients in the cave i don't see any other ending then being stewards for the older one to keep them fed in their fight with the younger so they stay locked up. Which again, makes 90% of the game completely irrelevant and the MC's character arc also inconsequential.

There's what... 1 update left? or is it 2 now? With how small they are there's just not enough time to wrap this up with any kind of closure. If there's a timeskip i'm going to laugh.

Started off as Vampire the Masquerade and we're ending with... idk Redfall? The only bad vampire game I can think of right now
 

Gold613

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So not going to lie here, but this is or was one of my most favorite games as I enjoyed the story telling and what not...
However what in the actual fuck was this all about the last few updates was hyping shit up only for this update to absolutely shit all over anything that was being made or build ? Are you serious ?

I am feeling like we only will get at most 3 more updates before this is done, the way that some stuff from earlier chapter ( 1 - 3 ) was making this out to be got changed or forgotten and same thing happening in chapter 4, but mid way chapter 5 also got ignored completely...

This feels like ( and I hope I am wrong ) but this definitely feels like a Life with Mary is about to happen again where we get a rushed bullshit ending. Because Life With Mary also had plenty going for it to still easily have gotten another good few updates out of it before the endings.

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Edit: In Spoiler.
 
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Niuul

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So not going to lie here, but this is or was one of my most favorite games as I enjoyed the story telling and what not...
However what in the actual fuck was this all about the last few updates was hyping shit up only for this update to absolutely shit all over anything that was being made or build ? Are you serious ?

I am feeling like we only will get at most 3 more updates before this is done, the way that some stuff from earlier chapter ( 1 - 3 ) was making this out to be got changed or forgotten and same thing happening in chapter 4, but mid way chapter 5 also got ignored completely...

This feels like ( and I hope I am wrong ) but this definitely feels like a Life with Mary is about to happen again where we get a rushed bullshit ending. Because Life With Mary also had plenty going for it to still easily have gotten another good few updates out of it before the endings.

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The thing with Calisto is that the 2 ancients are way waaaaaaaaay older, so much so that they were regarded as Gods during their time. Calisto is old, but I don't think she's that old and also wasn't getting the visions by the young one to come down to the caves so the young one could fed on her. So that's why Calisto wasn't sensing anything, no connection with the ancient.

Writing that out made me realize that parts of the story on it's own are actually decent as a base to work on, but as a whole it's so disjointed between the chapters. Like a collection of short stories that link nothing together and the MC just happens to be there for each one lol.
 

Gold613

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The thing with Calisto is that the 2 ancients are way waaaaaaaaay older, so much so that they were regarded as Gods during their time. Calisto is old, but I don't think she's that old and also wasn't getting the visions by the young one to come down to the caves so the young one could fed on her. So that's why Calisto wasn't sensing anything, no connection with the ancient.

Writing that out made me realize that parts of the story on it's own are actually decent as a base to work on, but as a whole it's so disjointed between the chapters. Like a collection of short stories that link nothing together and the MC just happens to be there for each one lol.
I clarified a bit more in my spoiler part with an ending. But to bring up a few points.

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Which at this point, again leads me to the conclusion that someone is rushing their game to come to an end.
 

Lady Lydia

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At this point I'd say this story has basically derailed from whatever it was clearly meant to be way back when it was made, the early systems of growth were forsaken ages ago, it seems from the moment the Dev decided to have that whole cave thing happen the story started to run off its original tracks, I suppose we must be nearing the end of this story because the entire thing crashed pretty much into a wall. Their isn't really all that much left to happen to this story except the MC getting out and effectively its going to be the epilogue of the story with whatever abstract 'happily ever after' it can manage to set up.
 

Overlord070

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At this point I'd say this story has basically derailed from whatever it was clearly meant to be way back when it was made, the early systems of growth were forsaken ages ago, it seems from the moment the Dev decided to have that whole cave thing happen the story started to run off its original tracks, I suppose we must be nearing the end of this story because the entire thing crashed pretty much into a wall. Their isn't really all that much left to happen to this story except the MC getting out and effectively its going to be the epilogue of the story with whatever abstract 'happily ever after' it can manage to set up.
Yep, seems like the dev either ran out of ideas or wants to wrap it up so what we're getting is some BS to speed up the process and it's more and more likely we get a rushed ending soon.
 
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joryh

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¿Qué hora es? Please provide an English translation with your posts, since this is not a dedicated translation forum. Even just using Google Translate or DeepL.com will work.
Not to mention it's against TOS in the first place, on top of being as rude as going into someone else's house and deliberately not speaking in their language.
 

Gold613

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The lore is so good. Everything else is passable, the the lore keeps me coming back.
Problem is the lore is all over the place at this point and given the last chapter, not sure what is legit or not.
can't seem to stay consistent with their story or lore it seems.

What got me interested in this was the whole idea of it almost giving me some world of darkness vibes... but all that has gone to absolute shit imo.
 

jish55

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Yeah, this game is no longer fun to play. I loved it for the first 2-3 episodes, but ever since it went down the ancient route, it's lost so much of its luster and intrigue that made the initial game so entertaining. At this point, I just don't have any interest left and will most likely drop this game.
 

Raziel_8

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Yeah, total letdown, with rushed ending...
This update is just as worse as the last one, just runing arround like a headless chicken...

The first couple of episodes 1-3 were really good and promising, one of my favorite game back then. Since then it's gone downhill tho, the last updates especially so.

So Virgil was indeed Calypso's child, old powerful and likely not on good terms with her. It doesn't matter tho, spying on him does neither, or what ever plans he has made...he's served as a snack, similiar done in as Calysto, no fight whatsoever.
I get that the sisters are strong, but even in VTM multiple strong methuselah can fight and win against a antediluvian, at least they can try fighting...

Fabian...really backstabing was total pointless (and way too prematurely), seeing how easily the older of the sister agrees to a deal.

So we agreed to be the snack delivery guy...what a crap end/solution.
Genuinely wondering what was even the point of getting all the powers (or draining Marcius), Vamp society, political intrigues etc.
I mean, it was clear that the MC woudn't be the strongest or take the sisters head on alone, but this is such a dissapointment...and the whole last 2 episodes burn down to this.

So question, just WHY would the older sister play the prisoner for the younger one for millennia or more like tens of millennia....like just kill/drain her, why would anyone sitting in that cave for no reason.
But i guess than the dev would need actually find a way to deal with a ancient one, which he clearly has no intention of doing so, seeing how he's done in the 2 most powerfull vamps besides the sisters in the most boring way possible...


Shouldn't have expected any better ending after his other game...yeah there are still 2 updates left, but whatever they will change nothing...

Honestly the idea with the 2 ancient ones was good, or so i thought back then, but seeing what crap he did with it, i'd say it would have be much more enjoyable if the game continued like ep 1-3. Vamp society, intrigues, modern day vamps, with a few powerfull ones, hunters etc. and forgo the ancient ones, would have been more interesting.
 
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