Ottoeight

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I would say the biggest problem that happened to Rebirth was simply time schedule.

I spoke once with Likesblondes when I was a supporter, which I did for around 2 years if I remember right, which amounts to 120 dollars. I ask him about how long and he say 5 episodes. So I asked why that little where I could see the story was just starting. He said something that actually make sense.

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I have a feeling they could have really push for a more complex thing but that would require a lot more time and effort.

There is also the thing about income. When I stopped supporting, they were a little short of 2000 usd per month. Now they are doing just 1000 usd. I still believe the novel deserves more, but hey, even I stopped supporting after a while so I cannot just tell people they should.
If Rebirth were their only game, I'd agree with you, BUT they have been working on different games using different Patreon accounts and different team names.

They clearly are the same team who made Alexandra and Ptolemy's games and who's making The Taming of the Brat and their games follow the very same pattern and share the very same bugs and the storylines show the very same mindset, pattern, inconsistencies and dialogue "weirdness".
 

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If Rebirth were their only game, I'd agree with you, BUT they have been working on different games using different Patreon accounts and different team names.

They clearly are the same team who made Alexandra and Ptolemy's games and who's making The Taming of the Brat and their games follow the very same pattern and share the very same bugs and the storylines show the very same mindset, pattern, inconsistencies and dialogue "weirdness".
My understanding is that ptolemy is working on those too, being the writer. Likesblonde only works on this one.
 
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your right it doesn't need to follow the rules of VtM lore at all we are talking about it more because the games clearly inspired by it and uses terms and ranks that are also used in VtM but doesn't mean VtM owns them such as Archons. I was just giving a take on how they could have written it so the big scary in the cave could be beaten and they didn't really write themselves into a corner they couldn't get out of there are many ways they could have gotten out of it they just needed a little bit of creativity like say a special nos elder who can who can control nos and its why the nos went nuts but everyone else is fine and how op could fight back.

and your right it is GoT last season style they want to be done with this and have written a rushed shoddy ending.
I know brother and I agree with you 100% but I am curious about how Sharon and MC's romantic relationship turns out

I haven't played in a very very long time but something tells me their relationship goes nowhere

I will probably just ask you what happened to them in the end
 

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I know brother and I agree with you 100% but I am curious about how Sharon and MC's romantic relationship turns out

I haven't played in a very very long time but something tells me their relationship goes nowhere

I will probably just ask you what happened to them in the end
eh there isn't much romance there tbh, game is being developed for a long time, but that relationship is just meh
 

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While I agree that I would love more updates in The Bite, I am content in knowing that so far.....that means a quality update. And I will definitely have to check out that other game you mentioned. Yeah I enjoy the sex scenes in most games, but I find the ones I love the most have good storylines.
Sex scenes are fine, sure I think that they have a lot more compared to Rebirth for sure. But for me content is also story, I know for some people content means either not enough sex scenes or fight scenes or whatever, but to me content is everything as a whole. If I can get through everything in a short period ( all of it combined ) it means small amount of content for me, the question is the quality at that point also. Revenant seems like it has a lot to offer with it's glossary and lore and what not, but like I said while the sandbox is barebones and not all that tedious around, it does look like that could change in the future.

Also the way it is setup it means the scope of things they have planned for it is bigger compared to what we got, so if the updates they give are going to be staying as small as they are right now, it means it is going to take a long time before we actually get anywhere. We will have to see, in so far I enjoy it.

Rebirth on the other hand, year's wasted, they could have made a proper end goal and worked towards it but it seems the goal kept changing because they had no idea how they wanted it to finish ( evidenced by how much stuff they ignored or never expanded on that got introduced ) and now ended up with a mess so just wanting to rush to an ending that they know, no one is going to be satisfied with but they can claim "finished" and put that on be like see, we got 2 finished games 0 abandoned.
 
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Sex scenes are fine, sure I think that they have a lot more compared to Rebirth for sure. But for me content is also story, I know for some people content means either not enough sex scenes or fight scenes or whatever, but to me content is everything as a whole. If I can get through everything in a short period ( all of it combined ) it means small amount of content for me, the question is the quality at that point also. Revenant seems like it has a lot to offer with it's glossary and lore and what not, but like I said while the sandbox is barebones and not all that tedious around, it does look like that could change in the future.

Also the way it is setup it means the scope of things they have planned for it is bigger compared to what we got, so if the updates they give are going to be staying as small as they are right now, it means it is going to take a long time before we actually get anywhere. We will have to see, in so far I enjoy it.

Rebirth on the other hand, year's wasted, they could have made a proper end goal and worked towards it but it seems the goal kept changing because they had no idea how they wanted it to finish ( evidenced by how much stuff they ignored or never expanded on that got introduced ) and now ended up with a mess so just wanting to rush to an ending that they know, no one is going to be satisfied with but they can claim "finished" and put that on be like see, we got 2 finished games 0 abandoned.
Dude!!!!! You should NOT have told me about that Welcome to Hell game!! Holy shit! I downloaded it at like 9pm and stayed up until 7am playing it LOL!! Damn is that game good!! And I haven't even played through the entire thing yet!! And I already know I'm going to play it again!!! Thanks man!
 
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Haha hahaha... I think I am losing my marbles... We were finally free of That Calisto Bitch..... But guess what, someone more powerful just made us her toy.... Fuck this.... I'm still going to see where the story is going but really, fuck this..... :FacePalm: :WutFace: unless we become the sister's right hand and be as evil as we want..... Now, that doesn't sound so bad!! :devilish::BootyTime:
 

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Well, as a person that's played this since it first came out (though took quite a long break, before I replayed it all yesterday) I have to say...I definitely get why some people lose interest.


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But yea, that's my two cents. Still like it, will continue playing, but I kind of get some people being turned off by it. Doesn't warrant any kind of hate whatsoever though. Be chill, especially if you're playing it for free like most of us here -_-

Oh, and lastly, I remember there's this game, The Bite: Revenant
I played it a while back, and have been waiting for it to build up updates, will check it out soon, but it feels like a nice a vampire game with cool story, and iirc, your powers actually matter for what's that worth. Then again, haven't played it in well over a year or so.
 
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Dude!!!!! You should NOT have told me about that Welcome to Hell game!! Holy shit! I downloaded it at like 9pm and stayed up until 7am playing it LOL!! Damn is that game good!! And I haven't even played through the entire thing yet!! And I already know I'm going to play it again!!! Thanks man!
Grats glad you enjoyed it :D, story wise it is very good, as you can see not the best graphical/models wise but ( but also not the worst with the type of style they went for the models ) story wise, that shit is pretty legit.


In my opinion Rebirths writers should go and take some notes :unsure:
 
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Grats glad you enjoyed it :D, story wise it is very good, as you can see not the best graphical/models wise but ( but also not the worst with the type of style they went for the models ) story wise, that shit is pretty legit.


In my opinion Rebirths writers should go and take some notes :unsure:
you mean to ruin their game even more? :WaitWhat:

no matter how low one can fall, there is always a lower level - in this case rebirth (ending) and that fake "game" you have recommended to that poor lost soul....:LUL:
 
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you mean to ruin their game even more? :WaitWhat:

no matter how low one can fall, there is always a lower level - in this case rebirth (ending) and that fake "game" you have recommended to that poor lost soul....:LUL:
Hey does not have to be your cup of tea, but that said "fake" game has a better story telling and writing then Rebirth has, it is what it is, you might not like the look of the game or the art style that makes it feel "fake" but at the end of the day the quality of the story beats the quality of rebirth period. Rebirth is the prettier game by far.

But to say that "fake" game I recommended to that "poor" soul who apparently enjoyed it so much they had hours of fun on it, seems to be the definition of " your best is someone else their lowest " :LUL:
 

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Hey does not have to be your cup of tea, but that said "fake" game has a better story telling and writing then Rebirth has, it is what it is, you might not like the look of the game or the art style that makes it feel "fake" but at the end of the day the quality of the story beats the quality of rebirth period. Rebirth is the prettier game by far.

But to say that "fake" game I recommended to that "poor" soul who apparently enjoyed it so much they had hours of fun on it, seems to be the definition of " your best is someone else their lowest " :LUL:
we are far into OT territory here, so better to cut it short sooner than later.
lets agree that we disagree regarding quality (plot/story) of those games.

p.s.
at least you have found you soulmate in that regard:BootyTime:
 

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So, um, yeah....

Well, I can't say I'm even minimally surprised with how this is going to end. Building up to the ending itself was far more interesting than that actual ending, despite the "revelations". I do find the "throw another shrimp on the barbie" fates of characters at the end to be a bit laughable. Let's see, who was the development team on this again? [pretends to check something] That's right: the "I have a great idea for a story but no clue how to end it" studio. [sigh] At least their other games don't take nearly as long (4½ years) to develop before giving you an obscene gesture and laughing as the dev runs away to another project. The game should've just been called, "We're screwed: Moving on...." SMH.
 

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we are far into OT territory here, so better to cut it short sooner than later.
lets agree that we disagree regarding quality (plot/story) of those games.

p.s.
at least you have found you soulmate in that regard:BootyTime:
Oh, don't worry buddy! I'm sure Gold613 and I can squeeze you into our harem.....if you're a good boy! :LOL::LOL:
 

Gold613

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you mean to ruin their game even more? :WaitWhat:

no matter how low one can fall, there is always a lower level - in this case rebirth (ending) and that fake "game" you have recommended to that poor lost soul....:LUL:
Sure we can agree to disagree, that is one thing we at least we can see eye to eye. Because at least I can see where the end of this one is going, compared to that other game you have an issue with.

p.s

there is always room for more, because from the sound of it you don't know what it is like to have one :KEK:.

-CookieMonster666- if it goes anything like his previous game, it prob means he will end up coming up with another one or already has one lined up to take the place. Problem is at this point I just have this thing where he starts off strong and always falls off at the end. at the least that is the direction it is heading.
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Sure we can agree to disagree, that is one thing we at least we can see eye to eye. Because at least I can see where the end of this one is going, compared to that other game you have an issue with.

p.s

there is always room for more, because from the sound of it you don't know what it is like to have one :KEK:.

-CookieMonster666- if it goes anything like his previous game, it prob means he will end up coming up with another one or already has one lined up to take the place. Problem is at this point I just have this thing where he starts off strong and always falls off at the end. at the least that is the direction it is heading.
Yeah. I've said it before, but I'll say it more succinctly again: As a general rule, a creator should never wait longer than 10% of the way into their project before they have a very clear picture of the ending of their story. If you have the ending written already, everything after that will point toward that ending in one way or another. The entire point of a story is the outcome. The whole "it's not the destination but how you get there" axiom only applies if the destination is worthwhile in the first place. ("Destination" doesn't have to be physical, of course.)
 
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Well, I kinda did like the beginning of the story, seeing the whole transitioning scenes, discovering the MCs powers, training, getting a bit of the lore in place and whatnot, learning about the elders and the hierarchies, until the game became a disappointing mess. I caught myself skipping a lot of dialogues with characters that didn't interest me, but what frustrated me the most was the fact that everything, all the powers I had and with everything I was taught and learned was useless. Hey, there's this thing we need to go do (THRILLER MOMENT, ITS URGENT) but no wait, let's go back to our place so we can talk some more, waste the whole fucking night and go to sleep naked because why the fuck not. Training with Eloise? Pointless. Training with Merrick? Pointless. Sharon should've been our teacher and yet, when we tell her about our powers, she laugh it off or better yet, not even believe it, 'cause why the fuck not. She can literally see us going into a trance (if I can interpret the "hey, you look like you were spaced out for a bit there" and then brush it off like it was nothing to ask "hey, what happened? Oh, is that your power maybe? SINCE WE DONT KNOW WHO SIRED YOU, WHY WOULD WE KNOW YOUR POWERS RIGHT, but to not even question it? Come on.

I literally just finished the last episode and I felt disappointed, the whole idea of being sired by a powerful being only to get that ending.

I gotta say, most of the characters I found interesting and relevant was actually side-characters, Sharon for the most part was a good side-kick but goddamn she can be annoying with her tandrums and spike comments, Fabian was an interesting character, an old one, a crusader and yet Sharon, with all her might and knowledge called him a fraud and kept spiking him every turn of his name being mentioned, like bruh, you good? And why isn't Calisto even interested or willing to give the MC some pointers on what the fuck is his "powers" since it feels like everyone in the game knows that it's a genetic/inheritance thing. -- Actually, I'm not even gonna bother with writing the rest of my thoughts here, man. -- No, you know what, I battled myself through the mid-game content only to have Calisto die uselessly by the end, the almighty Calisto and her almighty powers getting fucked on by that thing like she was a ragdoll, and then having to save that Cindy nonsensical thrall character who thought she was something above our MC, which was basically a son to her goddess, but no, let's treat him like trash 'cause that makes sense right(?), anyways. Lauren was someone that I didn't even want to have by my side after my MC turned vampire, but no, the game still stuffed her into the mix, like why, and the MCs mother not even realizing her son is literally cold a corpse when she hugs him, 'cause why would her when everyone else did (oh, you feel so cold) [roll eyes], and Mrs. Olivia was another being that I didn't need to have in my game, but felt like she was stuffed in there because why the fuck wouldn't you have a landlady at your side right(?). Anyways, I'm.. this story makes no fucking sense, I don't know why I even bother.
 
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