VN Ren'Py Completed Rebirth [Ep.1-5 All in One] [LikesBlondes]

[Ayhsel]

Quick question just want to make sure i didn't somehow f up lol is Sharon supposed to reject u by the end of this update even if u make all the right choices?

In her words, she is not rejecting you. But yes. She still won't give you any.
Well, not true, she did give me lots of kisses in the neck in this update.

 

[kaduos]

Quick question just want to make sure i didn't somehow f up lol is Sharon supposed to reject u by the end of this update even if u make all the right choices?

Guess that depends on what you mean by reject. I did several reloads to find better outcomes and still got "with" her in minimal way. I don't think there's any full blown sex yet in the game. There is a scene where you get a little frisky with some blood drinking (on her boob), but that's as far as it has got that I can see.

 

[Jacktron1]

In her words, she is not rejecting you. But yes. She still won't give you any.
Well, not true, she did give me lots of kisses in the neck in this update.

Guess we got the same ending then thanks for the answer just had to make sure

 

[andrew david irving]

Hahaha, penetration sex can only happen for the mc when he can 'get it up' so to speak, which is clearly not for some time yet....

 

[Ayhsel]

Hahaha, penetration sex can only happen for the mc when he can 'get it up' so to speak, which is clearly not for some time yet....

So much power, so much vitality, so much desire, can't get an erection...

 

[magus448]

Maybe have a fridge full of blood packs for special occasions.

 

[Rodzaju]

Or a donor on hand.
Kind of like a porn industry fluffer...

 

[andrew david irving]

Pure speculation, but my take is that following the progression in gaining powers in previous updates, in the next update there may be an option to choose a charisma power, this new power could probably be used to convince/turn/mind control Carmen to a degree and align her with your cause (as you desperately need allies in each of the different camps) which is an appropriate solution for the hunter camp.

 

[Raziel_8]

Maybe have a fridge full of blood packs for special occasions.

Problem is, Sharon made it pretty clear that drinking much blood couses a vamp to lose his humanity and not in a good way like getting more powers. Also our Mc is horny every day... especialy arround Sharon, so drinking blood every day til the tank is full is not a good solution for this problem.

So either a solution via a new power or MC learns to controll his body/blood

 

[andrew david irving]

Hi Raziel_8, I would agree that one of the new powers available in one of the paths sometimes in the future may resolve the erectile dysfunction problem - speculate: perhaps the power that allow Astrid to maintain a more human-like appearance ...?

 

[Ayhsel]

Problem is, Sharon made it pretty clear that drinking much blood couses a vamp to lose his humanity and not in a good way like getting more powers. Also our Mc is horny every day... especialy arround Sharon, so drinking blood every day til the tank is full is not a good solution for this problem.

So either a solution via a new power or MC learns to controll his body/blood

That is a nice dilemma you presented: do you wanna retain your humanity or do you wanna get laid consistently? questions, questions...

If I am not mistaken in VTM setting, drinking often is not a problem. What hurts your humanity is killing innocents (that can be a consequence of drinking uncontrollably). The whole trying to drink as little as possible could be more a mental exercise of Sharon than a real effect. In other words, her whole meditation can help controlling the beast by improving willpower, but it may not be that drinking often is a real problem.

But it remains to be seen. I doubt that they are going to use a power for a plot like that. My guess is that MC controlling his urges will play differently in his case. Most vamps are not horny all the time as he is. Like in the update even he acknowledges that even Carmen tried to kill him he can only think how good it would feel to fuck her. To be fair, can we really blame him? I was thinking the same.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

That is a nice dilemma you presented: do you wanna retain your humanity or do you wanna get laid consistently? questions, questions...

If I am not mistaken in VTM setting, drinking often is not a problem. What hurts your humanity is killing innocents (that can be a consequence of drinking uncontrollably). The whole trying to drink as little as possible could be more a mental exercise of Sharon than a real effect. In other words, her whole meditation can help controlling the beast by improving willpower, but it may not be that drinking often is a real problem.

But it remains to be seen. I doubt that they are going to use a power for a plot like that. My guess is that MC controlling his urges will play differently in his case. Most vamps are not horny all the time as he is. Like in the update even he acknowledges that even Carmen tried to kill him he can only think how good it would feel to fuck her. To be fair, can we really blame him? I was thinking the same.

Now I'm curious to know how MC is gonna get an erection to fuck. Over doing it with blood looks to be a bad idea.

 

[galora]

This is just my understanding of Vampire society in VTM (which need not even be the exactly same situation with Rebirth world, but as is the main inspiration I assumed).
The way I see it, being enthralled creates a master/servant relationship that is almost unbreakable. Servant almost never will go against master.
The control a vampire sire exerts on her child is weaker than one achieved by enthrallment. Even in Rebirth you still have the option of MC desiring to kill her sire (only way I would kill her is in bed If I manage to get a boner).
With these two elements in mind, assuming MC is sire of Carmen while Laurie remains enthralled, we could establish a transitivity order, where MC control over Carmen being weaker, allowing more independence, or a greater "status", as she is less a servant to MC than Laurie.
Of course, you need not have a complete order, and there could be no comparison between an enthralled human and a vampire child. So don't take my comment too serious, is more wishful thinking.

Reasons why I think Carmen having the upper hand is more interesting than the other way are the following:
while Carmen obviously not, Laurie already adores the MC, even before enthrallment. So she receiving what I think is a lesser position would allow for a more active Laurie, fighting constanly for the attention MC now gives to Carmen. I mean, let us be honest, Sharon position as MC Queen can only be taken from her by MC's sire or the beauty in the red dream. But Laurie could try to become MC best right hand, position that could also be taken by MC's vampiric child Carmen. On the contrary, a position in which Carmen has both a lower status and a lower affection to the MC would make the fight too unequal, with Laurie dominating Carmen over MC's attention/love. And I want a Kitten fight!! I want conflict!! I know, I am a monster. What can I do?

Disclaimer: out of the many female characters in the game: Sharon, Laurie, Carmen, Astrid, MC's sire, the beauty in the red dream, Laurie is the one I care less. I tend to dislike "obviously in love childhood friends", and Laurie kind of fits that description. Her relationship to MC is stronger that simple friendship and it never felt to me as brother/sister relationship. So yeah, Laurie is last in my list.

Can't really say much, your argument is rock solid especially the killing part !

That would only be if she is turned, where I wouldn't be sure if it's not dangerous for the MC... Far from enough control over a hunter that, to a certain degree, serves Astrid. Though I still agree with you, from a narrative perspective without doubt it would be worth going that way... Less pervy but that seems to be the way this will go forward (Which is awesome!).
Especially with Laurie, for now she is adjusting but should quickly take on a role of a strategic Andrew, I doubt I would enjoy her becoming a rambo type killer (her outfits would suggest that), and Merricks teachings should allow her to be the brains of the operation. (Again agreeing with you, just kind of hyped about your ideas)

I generally do like the in love childhood friends when they aren't too obvious, tough here the way the relationship evolves seems it might get interesting in the future. Maybe you could tell me if in VTM (the board game? I don't know it) the enthralled develops a more loose relationship with the vampire.

Wasn't that short but I'm too tired to go on... Can't wait for more of the story

 

[kaduos]

If I am not mistaken in VTM setting, drinking often is not a problem. What hurts your humanity is killing innocents (that can be a consequence of drinking uncontrollably).

There is very little mention of blood addiction, or it's not really a serious mechanic that gets a lot of play. Like anything that just comes natural, you don't think about it until you need it, and that's kind of how it's portrayed. The only people who have a real addiction to it are ghouls.

There are actually quite a few mechanics for humanity, though, but only for tabletop. These can be as simple as selfish thoughts or acts, accidental injury to others, theft, property damage, even perversion, but the major ones mostly involve killing in one way or another.

 

[kaduos]

I generally do like the in love childhood friends when they aren't too obvious, tough here the way the relationship evolves seems it might get interesting in the future. Maybe you could tell me if in VTM (the board game? I don't know it) the enthralled develops a more loose relationship with the vampire.

Ghouls (thralls) are portrayed pretty similarly to this game, almost to the letter. So far the only big difference I noticed is that thralls straight up die if they don't get their fix, which is on a monthly basis. It's a more regular thing for a ghoul from VTM, they become obsessive, and even violent or frenzy if they don't get it (a mechanic for berserking, or extreme aggression, basically) - not that they are ever a danger to their creator, though. It's more of a drug addict/supplier relationship, and they're often created to perform specific tasks for the vampire, but the relationship is rarely sexual. I'd say in that case it probably has more similarity to True Blood, where those who drink vampire blood often can't stop thinking about the vampire, even in a sexual way, although it was real hit or miss on that. Vampire blood was often (illegally) sold as an aphrodisiac in vials, and that rarely created sexual thoughts for a specific vampire, but there were many instances of people drinking directly from a vampire and had that reaction to it.

 

[Ayhsel]

Maybe you could tell me if in VTM (the board game? I don't know it) the enthralled develops a more loose relationship with the vampire.

I am not a specialist on VTM. I have played VTM Redemption and Bloodlines back and forth and have read the wikis of the RPG game for the sake of better understanding the computer games.
I don't think I can tell you more information than kaduos did.

That would only be if she is turned, where I wouldn't be sure if it's not dangerous for the MC... Far from enough control over a hunter that, to a certain degree, serves Astrid. Though I still agree with you, from a narrative perspective without doubt it would be worth going that way... Less pervy but that seems to be the way this will go forward (Which is awesome!).
Especially with Laurie, for now she is adjusting but should quickly take on a role of a strategic Andrew, I doubt I would enjoy her becoming a rambo type killer (her outfits would suggest that), and Merricks teachings should allow her to be the brains of the operation. (Again agreeing with you, just kind of hyped about your ideas)

Well I mentioned before that I would prefer it if MC turn her. The problem is that MC clan is too OP and too unique to let another one like him loose. It would take one of the main plots, how weird MC is, out of the picture. But I really want Carmen as independent of MC as possible. Have MC gain her trust slowly until she falls for him. For example, I would love it if one day MC open his eyes and find Carmen with a axe about to cut MC head but unable to do it because of her own starting doubts about her feelings for MC. Just imagine Laurie reaction to that, trying to straight out kill her. Even Sharon I doubt would remain untouched.
So I would love if Sharon turn her instead. Just please not Merrick. I mean, his eyes are beautiful, but I can do without trying to fuck a Gollum look alike vamp chick.

I welcome strongly that Laurie became MC's thrall. That allows her to become more open about her obvious feelings (obvious to pretty much any reader, not necessary to her). And I welcome her becoming a real asset in MC's asset. And I hope she gets half as awesome as Andrew. He is phenomenal.

 

[galora]

So I would love if Sharon turn her instead. Just please not Merrick. I mean, his eyes are beautiful, but I can do without trying to fuck a Gollum look alike vamp chick.

Would she seriously become like him, the way I think the Rebirth portrays it, it depends on the person getting turned right?
I mean she has nice eyes, and having them bigger might be worth something...

I welcome strongly that Laurie became MC's thrall. That allows her to become more open about her obvious feelings (obvious to pretty much any reader, not necessary to her). And I welcome her becoming a real asset in MC's asset. And I hope she gets half as awesome as Andrew. He is phenomenal.

Agree again, but Andrew is kind of a henchman as well as Shannons right hand, Laurie would be awesome as a badass girl with guns, but her not being only a "metalhead" vampire protector but also the girl behind the computer preparing the MCs outing... Mhhhhhmmhh that would be nice!

 

[Ayhsel]

Would she seriously become like him, the way I think the Rebirth portrays it, it depends on the person getting turned right?
I mean she has nice eyes, and having them bigger might be worth something...

Well, if a Nosferatu (Merrick's clan in VTM) turns you, you are going to look as a monster. That is their curse. And Carmen is too pretty for that to happen. Like, why waste such a beautiful character to make her ugly? It would be an amazing move by the devs, making us horny for her and then do that, but I really hope they don't.

 

[Raziel_8]

That is a nice dilemma you presented: do you wanna retain your humanity or do you wanna get laid consistently? questions, questions...

If I am not mistaken in VTM setting, drinking often is not a problem. What hurts your humanity is killing innocents (that can be a consequence of drinking uncontrollably). The whole trying to drink as little as possible could be more a mental exercise of Sharon than a real effect. In other words, her whole meditation can help controlling the beast by improving willpower, but it may not be that drinking often is a real problem.

But it remains to be seen. I doubt that they are going to use a power for a plot like that. My guess is that MC controlling his urges will play differently in his case. Most vamps are not horny all the time as he is. Like in the update even he acknowledges that even Carmen tried to kill him he can only think how good it would feel to fuck her. To be fair, can we really blame him? I was thinking the same.

Well in this dilemma i'd say humanity is overated, so enjoy what u have become, there is no going back either way...though Sharon may not like this answear and she is my number one followed by MC's sire and the girl from the red dreams...more dilemma ahead

Yes i think ur right with VTM setting, the meditation is about willpower and controlling the urge to drink, so i could imagine that a lack of willpower could result in drinking uncontrollably, killing innocents, similar to a addiction as it is mentioned that drinking is for a vamp like the best feeling ever.

The MC always horny is clearly abnormal for vamps, i'm curious if MC's sire has the same ''problem'' when we finally meet her.
I agree, it would be a waste to use a power for this, personally i would like if the girl from the red dreams could give some help/give hints how the MC get a better grip on his new body and powers...as she seems quite interested in him and i would like bit more screentime for her.

Hi Raziel_8, I would agree that one of the new powers available in one of the paths sometimes in the future may resolve the erectile dysfunction problem - speculate: perhaps the power that allow Astrid to maintain a more human-like appearance ...?

I think in Astrid case it is more like a trait from her clan than a specific power.
But i think there are a few powers which could be used for this purpose.
It's quite some time since VTM, but from what i remember there are:

- A dominance/mental power which can make people incredible horny and such
- I think there was a power like flesh mending, which one clan uses
- Bloodmagic which requires control of one's own blood.

That being said i think it would be a waste to use a power for this.

 

[galora]

Well, if a Nosferatu (Merrick's clan in VTM) turns you, you are going to look as a monster. That is their curse. And Carmen is too pretty for that to happen. Like, why waste such a beautiful character to make her ugly? It would be an amazing move on the devs, making us horny for her and then do that, but I really hope they don't.

Hahahh I'd hate it too, it would be a ballsy move but it would make her so hateful... They did mention some hunters weren't human, if there are any vampire vampire hunters, she would have the perfect reason to become one! It could make an awesome new enemy though, maybe Merrick won't be able to resist!
But that won't happen, enough ennemies already and she'll surely have a role in the next episodes and not only later (once she is a more powerful Nosferatu), which does mean we'll have the interrogation and probably a choice to show clemency towards her!