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Which main character are you most interested in so far?

  • Eryn

    Votes: 8,627 57.0%
  • Lena

    Votes: 718 4.7%
  • Lucine

    Votes: 1,849 12.2%
  • Raisa

    Votes: 1,670 11.0%
  • Rithe

    Votes: 318 2.1%
  • Murfi (Lucine's Cow)

    Votes: 1,636 10.8%
  • Aline

    Votes: 69 0.5%
  • Aina

    Votes: 30 0.2%
  • Evana

    Votes: 105 0.7%
  • Silva

    Votes: 116 0.8%

  • Total voters
    15,138

Sum Gi

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Nov 10, 2017
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The art is simultaneously great and "eh." So much work has gone into detailing and backgrounds that look really nice, and the style strikes an appealing blend of realistic and cartoonish, but the underlying physicality, anatomical structure, perspective and posing of the characters just needs that little bit more practice and refinement. Still has that characteristic stiffness of someone who hasn't mastered the rules before breaking them yadda yadda. Studies with anatomical texts can be helpful (if that's not something you're already doing). Not that modern artists necessarily have the free time for stuff like that while trying to put bread on the table...

While I like the style I think some adjustment could be made specifically to the upper half of the faces to make them more appealing. And with regard to character's with large busts, paying special attention to portray the breasts weighted physical objects that deform and interact with forces rather than loosely attached airbags can be beneficial, unless that's your specific taste. I'm not saying make them saggy or anything but
Compare:
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With something like:
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I feel the later, while still rather ridiculously large and in a somewhat cartoonish style, has a much stronger sense of reality and physical presence.

Kind of got side tracked into a conversation about boobs at the end there and I didn't want that to be the focus... My main attention was drawn to the posing and proportions and positions of extremities. Anyway I feel the art is obviously good enough for the project as it exists, I'm just speaking in terms of eventual mastery, that's all.
 

Sewyoba

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Jul 22, 2018
403
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Compare:
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With something like:
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I feel the later, while still rather ridiculously large and in a somewhat cartoonish style, has a much stronger sense of reality and physical presence.
Silicone breasts vs natural milkers. Although let's just point out that you are comparing a sprite with toggleable face/clothes/belly/etc in front of a background to an art by a japanese artist who specifically studied western fairy tale cartoons extensively to create a recognizable fantasy style
 

Sum Gi

Member
Nov 10, 2017
441
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Silicone breasts vs natural milkers. Although let's just point out that you are comparing a sprite with toggleable face/clothes/belly/etc in front of a background to an art by a japanese artist who specifically studied western fairy tale cartoons extensively to create a recognizable fantasy style
Yeah they have to match the quality, just the underlying principles, ya know. You could fix that sprite right up with a few alterations in the curvature of the lines. Although I guess that's like saying you could be the fastest man alive if you just ran faster. I dunno. For the longest time I was never a fan large busts in hgames or art (to the point where they actually straight up ruined numerous works for me) and preferred smaller chests, but recently I've come to realize that people are actually just shit at drawing breasts.
Good old human nature at work. We can't help it...so why fight it? :LOL::LOL:
No... No! I'm an ass man through and through, I swear! Not some uncultured swine! I would never stoop to-
 

jI11jaCksjAkk

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Jun 26, 2023
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No... No! I'm an ass man through and through, I swear! Not some uncultured swine! I would never stoop to-
Well, I guess its one of the "blessings" of aging that eventually you can enjoy a good view of both big tits AND a nice ass at the same time from behind. So why choose?? :ROFLMAO:
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Escape Sauce

Refuge of Embers
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Oct 4, 2020
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The art is simultaneously great and "eh." So much work has gone into detailing and backgrounds that look really nice, and the style strikes an appealing blend of realistic and cartoonish, but the underlying physicality, anatomical structure, perspective and posing of the characters just needs that little bit more practice and refinement. Still has that characteristic stiffness of someone who hasn't mastered the rules before breaking them yadda yadda. Studies with anatomical texts can be helpful (if that's not something you're already doing). Not that modern artists necessarily have the free time for stuff like that while trying to put bread on the table...

While I like the style I think some adjustment could be made specifically to the upper half of the faces to make them more appealing. And with regard to character's with large busts, paying special attention to portray the breasts weighted physical objects that deform and interact with forces rather than loosely attached airbags can be beneficial, unless that's your specific taste. I'm not saying make them saggy or anything but
Compare:
View attachment 4044911
With something like:
View attachment 4044908
I feel the later, while still rather ridiculously large and in a somewhat cartoonish style, has a much stronger sense of reality and physical presence.

Kind of got side tracked into a conversation about boobs at the end there and I didn't want that to be the focus... My main attention was drawn to the posing and proportions and positions of extremities. Anyway I feel the art is obviously good enough for the project as it exists, I'm just speaking in terms of eventual mastery, that's all.
The artist has always been more focused on backgrounds so drawing figures was kind of new for her when she started. Early on we were both improving pretty quickly and had to redo a lot of the artwork to keep everything consistent since each new sprite and scene looked noticeably better than the last. At this point to save time and press forward we're holding off on reworking the early stuff if it's at least 80% to where we want it to be. For both of us a lot of the fun of working on this has been in improving at everything though. Every couple of weeks we try something new in the process or do a deep dive into something specific to make it better. Lately for her it's been animation, but a few weeks back we got some courses on boob movement for those and had a major level up.
 

jI11jaCksjAkk

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Jun 26, 2023
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a few weeks back we got some courses on boob movement for those and had a major level up.
Why the FUCK was I paying off student loans for years when the crap school I went to didn't have Boob Movement 101 as an elective?? I missed out D-cup (big) time. :cry: And they missed out on a lot of $$ because I would have retaken that course every semester...
 

DarkDesires

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Jun 30, 2017
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Nice game and graphics, only very very bad things it's it's just like a vn, wall of text having to read or pass and no action or whatever, no waypoint to chose to go (like having a map I mean, chose in which direction you want to travel like forest or town or home), only a few replies choices. But I'd like to see more of it because the story is good and the characters interesting.

Anyway, I'm surprised nobody asked for the special font, except if it's a common thing that I'm unaware of..

If you want some translation here it is: (don't read if you want to discover it by yourself).

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Escape Sauce

Refuge of Embers
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I do it and I can enter the main menu
but when I try to start the game or go to options this error occurs
Not sure but my best guess is some weirdness from persistent data if you played an old version on the same PC, particularly if it was in the past version of Python. You could try to go into c:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\RefugeOfEmbers and delete everything in there to reset the persistent data and saves. You'll need to have hidden folders viewable to find and get into the AppData folder. Also make a backup of everything before you delete it if you want to keep your saves but if they're really old they'll be buggy.
 
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hectdar

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Not sure but my best guess is some weirdness from persistent data if you played an old version on the same PC, particularly if it was in the past version of Python. You could try to go into c:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\RefugeOfEmbers and delete everything in there to reset the persistent data and saves. You'll need to have hidden folders viewable to find and get into the AppData folder. Also make a backup of everything before you delete it if you want to keep your saves but if they're really old they'll be buggy.
I never played it before
I wanted to play the previous version and I couldn't either because of the same errors
 

Escape Sauce

Refuge of Embers
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Oct 4, 2020
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I never played it before
I wanted to play the previous version and I couldn't either because of the same errors
It looks like it's having an issue with some specific menu code that I've only had an issue with when I tried to recompile the game using a Python 2 version of RenPy. I was trying to get the game to run on a reeeally old netbook with a 32 bit CPU, like 15-20 years old. It looks like yours is 64 bit though. What hardware are you using?

Also are there any mods you tried to install before launching the game for the first time, and is it an official version or something like a compressed or modified version uploaded by a third party?
 

hectdar

Newbie
Nov 20, 2022
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It looks like it's having an issue with some specific menu code that I've only had an issue with when I tried to recompile the game using a Python 2 version of RenPy. I was trying to get the game to run on a reeeally old netbook with a 32 bit CPU, like 15-20 years old. It looks like yours is 64 bit though. What hardware are you using?

Also are there any mods you tried to install before launching the game for the first time, and is it an official version or something like a compressed or modified version uploaded by a third party?
have an xeon 3440x chipset 1156 8gb ram.
i used the steam version and it doesn't work either.
 
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