Ren'Py Abandoned Rejected No More [v0.2.2] [RoyalCandy]

[Naxos]

Because even when you are playing the VN mode you're still playing a sandbox. And just like most sandbox games here you see what's left when you throw the repeatable bullshit in the bin. Which is not much.

Sandbox has always been used as a way to cut corners, reuse assets with repeatable scenes and stall main story progression here. Unsurprisingly that's how it's used in the mainstream industry too. Take out the collectible bs and the repeatable tower capture stuff from most Assasins Creed games and you are left with a main story of a couple hours at most. It's just that it's even more boring in porn games because the repetitive bullshit is not nearly as engaging as a mainstream game.

Tried this out and admittedly I'm using the VN and not sandbox mode as intented, but yirre there are so many failings in the VN mode. Jumps that make no sense... It's late I should go to bed, bam! in the middle of a conversation with the mom. I get it's the options you'd logically take in the sandbox, but there is just zero flow whatsover, conversations and scenes are left unfinished to jump into another one again in the middle of a conversation.

I really appreciate the option for a VN instead of sandbox, but it could have been done so much better. Even a few plain black backgrounds, with "let me go see if mom is still reading" or "let me go see if the girls want some sunscreen" would be better than a jump into the middle of the conversation with them.

I also hope there is a way to avoid Brianna, and I'm only interested in the mom and sisters.

Also it's time he stopped acting like a pussy with the oldest sister and leans into her teasing.. she teases him, tease her back.

 

[ZoZo0311]

"Story of my life", "This is the man of the house", and "Join a college" isn't saying completed. I played when this first released and there were way more scenes but my saves didn't work. Anyone know how to complete these quests?

 

[AL.d]

Tried this out and admittedly I'm using the VN and not sandbox mode as intented, but yirre there are so many failings in the VN mode. Jumps that make no sense... It's late I should go to bed, bam! in the middle of a conversation with the mom. I get it's the options you'd logically take in the sandbox, but there is just zero flow whatsover, conversations and scenes are left unfinished to jump into another one again in the middle of a conversation.

I really appreciate the option for a VN instead of sandbox, but it could have been done so much better. Even a few plain black backgrounds, with "let me go see if mom is still reading" or "let me go see if the girls want some sunscreen" would be better than a jump into the middle of the conversation with them.

I also hope there is a way to avoid Brianna, and I'm only interested in the mom and sisters.

Also it's time he stopped acting like a pussy with the oldest sister and leans into her teasing.. she teases him, tease her back.

I don't think it could have been done any better. This game at its core is made to be a sandbox. Everything from its progression to the way the scenes play out. Every scene in a VN is used to move the plot forward, there is no repetitive bs unlike a sandbox.

The VN mode can only be a half assed afterthought. The only way it could have been better would be to make a second game from scratch as a VN.

 

[Naxos]

Yeah, even this has a lot of repetitive shit in the VN. like the night creeping.

Games go promise, but I just found the VN jarring the way it jumps around.

 

[MisterDan]

Compare it to a house in the rift which got an update recently and there is no competition. This is a boring AF sandbox game, there is no novel to speak of. It is a very good looking but in the end it is still a .

 

[Alpha Beta Omega]

v0.2.2
N/A

is there NOTHING in that update??

 

[john0410]

Posts like this make me think that certain people who like a certain kink get off on being belittled and made to feel like shit, so they think that is the only way to treat others.

What he's said is the majority of his supports have spoken about what they want and he's going to respect that. No need to start calling names over it.

LOL i dont think so ntr is the main issue it is the game mechanics and the story is full of no more secret first version was way way better and it feels like playing same sandbox game all the time game sucks

 

[bobdillan]

AL.d just read your review... and i have but one question... you did finish their previous game right?

Cause if you haven't I suggest you do.. it will perfectly explain why this is a shitshow. I dub this game... no more secrets ending: the game. XD

I even have this thread ignored, but forgot to unwatch from when I last commented so got pinged by your review.

tldnr: they threw shit together with each ending being a short shitty slideshow instead of an actual show. all that effort and no payoff.

Like this:
As the hero grasped his sword, and eyed the demon with his renewed vigor, he stood strong and raised his arms along with his will, and launched forth.
He struck hard and strong as he tore into the fleshy belly of the beast that stood before him, just as he took a heavy blow that shred his chain-mail into pieces, baring his flesh and it burned asunder.....
But it was over, he won, demon dead now he took the princess hand and they lived happily ever after and probably fucked... the end.

 

[Johny Alfa]

v0.2.2
N/A

is there NOTHING in that update??

No. no new content, actually less as he been cutting out the voyeurism. it was just reworking around basics and rebalancing.

 

[AL.d]

AL.d just read your review... and i have but one question... you did finish their previous game right?

Cause if you haven't I suggest you do.. it will perfectly explain why this is a shitshow. I dub this game... no more secrets ending: the game. XD

I even have this thread ignored, but forgot to unwatch from when I last commented so got pinged by your review.

tldnr: they threw shit together with each ending being a short shitty slideshow instead of an actual show. all that effort and no payoff.

Like this:
As the hero grasped his sword, and eyed the demon with his renewed vigor, he stood strong and raised his arms along with his will, and launched forth.
He struck hard and strong as he tore into the fleshy belly of the beast that stood before him, just as he took a heavy blow that shred his chain-mail into pieces, baring his flesh and it burned asunder.....
But it was over, he won, demon dead now he took the princess hand and they lived happily ever after and probably fucked... the end.

I did and even with the rushed ending it was still an overall better game.

It's like Mass Effect 3 compared to Anthem. First is a good game with shit ending while the second is just bad from the get go.

 

[Johny Alfa]

Because even when you are playing the VN mode you're still playing a sandbox. And just like most sandbox games here you see what's left when you throw the repeatable bullshit in the bin. Which is not much.

Sandbox has always been used as a way to cut corners, reuse assets with repeatable scenes and stall main story progression here. Unsurprisingly that's how it's used in the mainstream industry too. Take out the collectible bs and the repeatable tower capture stuff from most Assasins Creed games and you are left with a main story of a couple hours at most. It's just that it's even more boring in porn games because the repetitive bullshit is not nearly as engaging as a mainstream game.

First lets ignore that AC is not sandbox game just an open-world. A sandbox is like Civilization, but sandbox vs openworld on this site is 100% misused. It has some fundamental benefits and advantages both format. But looks like to me you have general issues with sand box games, based on your personal bias and you generalising based on that. Criticizing the "sandbox" format because 99% of developers as with lack of game design misuses it that's doesn't sounds fair. Even if I admit I think probably 1 sandbox game I find this site what is how it meant to be. //Baal's superpowered is using the advantage of single scenario can have many different outcome based on other circumstances therefore its worth play around circumstances and replay scenes as you can form your own story. // Because in my point of view the VN are ain't much better here, 99% full of filling shit to make it look like content, but most of them boring even trough auto skip as the same way how sand box creators lack of game design and fore planning VN creators lack of game design and fore planning; completely ignoring the benefits of VN format their story has no arc and just starching on very easy to write linear possible tiniest little steps (which is almost identical in every game) to milk their fans as long as possible. //Also find 1 VN so far how it meant to be GGGB as taking full advantage of linear story that gives her much higher control over scenes and order therefore she can do much more shaping of locations, characters look and behavior. //

 

[AL.d]

First lets ignore that AC is not sandbox game just an open-world. A sandbox is like Civilization, but sandbox vs openworld on this site is 100% misused. It has some fundamental benefits and advantages both format. But looks like to me you have general issues with sand box games, based on your personal bias and you generalising based on that. Criticizing the "sandbox" format because 99% of developers as with lack of game design misuses it that's doesn't sounds fair. Even if I admit I think probably 1 sandbox game I find this site what is how it meant to be. //Baal's superpowered is using the advantage of single scenario can have many different outcome based on other circumstances therefore its worth play around circumstances and replay scenes as you can form your own story. // Because in my point of view the VN are ain't much better here, 99% full of filling shit to make it look like content, but most of them boring even trough auto skip as the same way how sand box creators lack of game design and fore planning VN creators lack of game design and fore planning; completely ignoring the benefits of VN format their story has no arc and just starching on very easy to write linear possible tiniest little steps (which is almost identical in every game) to milk their fans as long as possible. //Also find 1 VN so far how it meant to be GGGB as taking full advantage of linear story that gives her much higher control over scenes and order therefore she can do much more shaping of locations, characters look and behavior. //

Free-roam is a more fitting term but sandbox is the tag used here so I stuck with that. I don't really disagree with what you wrote but I can't judge stuff on what could have been, just on what we currently have. And right now this "sandbox" format in wegs is mostly used to cut corners.

The example you used is interesting because that game is a mechanical clusterfuck. And playing it without cheats requires to slowly grind your life away until you are left a husk in front of a screen, just for one scene. Which is one of the main issues with sandboxes.

You are right that there are many VNs who are linear and identical. Only having the illusion of choice, with good choice vs bad choice design (so you are not really choosing). But on average there are a better experience because you don't have to sit through repetitive actions, to raise some arbitrary stat, so you maybe get one porn scene somewhere along the line. These games are all about gating progression and that's not my idea of a fun porn game.

 

[Johny Alfa]

Free-roam is a more fitting term but sandbox is the tag used here so I stuck with that. I don't really disagree with what you wrote but I can't judge stuff on what could have been, just on what we currently have. And right now this "sandbox" format in wegs is mostly used to cut corners.

The example you used is interesting because that game is a mechanical clusterfuck. And playing it without cheats requires to slowly grind your life away until you are left a husk in front of a screen, just for one scene. Which is one of the main issues with sandboxes.

You are right that there are many VNs who are linear and identical. Only having the illusion of choice, with good choice vs bad choice design (so you are not really choosing). But on average there are a better experience because you don't have to sit through repetitive actions, to raise some arbitrary stat, so you maybe get one porn scene somewhere along the line. These games are all about gating progression and that's not my idea of a fun porn game.

Yes right now its not needed for sandbox as not enough content, but I could also say about VN but I believe its because its pretty much still 0.1 version. I have some patience with them due to their previous game, but I admit I have some growing concerns as the strong points of that game (well written characters, and clear story arc which together shaped the scenes not the the basic copy pasted script like most game: "every girl has to have separated scenes for separated days in the following order hj->bj->sex..." bleh) not seems to appear as characters are neither unique or fresh (but this is basic I wait to see more characters coming, as the only out of box Briana looks cool enough to me), and story/dialogs not much also to praise or criticize about it yet. Except the default non-incest version is ridiculously stupid, incest is not my kink but if incest patch will be available I will definitely use it as the non incest is on a level of dumbness that infuriates me to read (which is also a huge step back from NMS).

Well I used example of sandbox mode provided options properly utilized, not for an awesome game. I like it, but I know it has many issues (4 year old, now obsolete graphics...) and I completely understand if not suits somebody. I just mean for example I have a save game which I grinded out all stats to max, all girls converted to maximum sluty, but I probably missed 75% of content because scenes are available on specific circumstances/stats. Like I recently read on a forum, that one guy never learned mind control which would make his MC turned on by incest, so he has no sexual attraction to mom or sis, but with insanity aura make her obsessive with him and he has scenes where mom rapes his MC. In long story short there is hundred different statistics but all are meaningful affect outcome of scenes and not definitely need to raise max and in game design many many different possibility were considered what I never thought.

Good choice or Bad Choice like: "The next scene will have some pornographic images, would you like to see it? a) Yes b) No" that's even above average game. I still remember the last game I tried to play Cure my addiction (which is a free roam/sandbox, but its events/conversations work like VN) where conversations 80% you have 2 or 3 option but none of them make any kind of difference anyhow after you made your choice conversation rolls on like nothing happened.

That personal opinion I played lots of D&D when I was younger, so I like if my MC has stats and I can raise them (Only if they are meaningful and story reflects my stat changes. Glamour despite amazing UI and graphics is dead boring to me). But I know not everybody has patience for this and I know cheats destroys the progress feeling and without that is not the same game. How for me most VN gets boring pointless clicking over 100 text box like I would play a text only game, so very soon I change to skip unseen text and that ruins and makes unenjoyable the game for me. (Probably only VN I enjoyed is project SAGE (remake)). So its personal taste.

 

[Lynx-.-x]

Is there going to be an Android version for this?

 

[Ara-sH]

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Hello guys,
As most of you know I had to take some time off from RoyalCandy and here is why.
Last year when I started to work on Rejected No More I told myself that this would be the best game there is, which means that I'll be able to do this full time so for the past few months I neglected my day job and actions have consequences.
I won't go too much into details, but the idea is that I will not be able to keep on working 6-8 hours a day for developing games.
On top of that Bishop decided to move away from RoyalCandy, he's no longer part of our team, which means I'm back all alone. The game didn't had the success we have hoped for so he decided to pursue his own game.
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Going forward with the game will get harder, because in this type of game for everything to make sense I have to add a lot of content.
Just so you imagine how much work had to be done for this, Bishop did 80% of the renders and I worked double the hours he did on writing text, creating the UI, making all the scenes, lights, mini-games, implementing features and so on.
So I decided that Rejected No More will no longer be my main project. I love this game and the idea behind, but we're still far away from it being what I dreamed of, so that's why I'll keep on working on this game in the background and when there will be enough content and story developed to make sense I'll release a new version.

Soon after I told you that I'll need some time, I came up with an idea. Given the fact that I'm no longer able to work as much as before and Rejected No More needed plenty of dedications and hours I decided to start a new game that I'll be able to maintain on a monthly basis.
The No More Money game is a visual novel much like our previous game No More Secrets.
The story begins when our landlord's company went bankrupt and everybody had to move to a different city in a smaller apartment with only two bedrooms. It's been hard for everybody, but I'm sure the MC will find a way to put his household back on it's feet.
To earn money our MC will have to get a job, but be careful, because the job you choose will have impact on the development of the character. In episode 1 you'll be presented with two jobs. One will lead to a more caring, nice type of guy, while the other will lead to a bad boy.
RELEASE DATE
During this time I worked like crazy after work, because I wanted to give you something this month and the first episode is almost completed.
The text is already done and fixed, all the scenes are ready, the UI is mostly done, so the only remaining part of the development is to wait for my machine to finish rendering and then I'll have to fix some of them.
So next week all my patrons will get a new game, which I promise, if you liked No More Secrets, you'll like this even more.
The story is more interesting, the choices have more effect, the renders are better and on top of that we have animations and music.
Best regards,
Jason

So ON HOLD ?

 

[Ara-sH]

This is the curse of Snadbox, if he just stick to VN , it get continues.

 

[Lerd0]

...

Goddamn the game failed even harder than i thought.
How does one fuck up this bad?
Just needed to make something like NoMoreSecrets again and it would be gold.

 

[Naxos]

So ON HOLD ?

Sounds more like abandoned.

My take was, don't have time for this so I'm starting a new project.

dunno how a new project = more time.

 

[gamersglory]

The game's systems may look simple but had to be a bitch to program free roam. RC was Full time into programing it. So he needed Bishop to do the renders. I can see why he went back to pure VN way less programming just focus on story and not all the other systems you need to work for a sandbox. Plus time to make renders

 

[Raptus Puellae]

The game didn't had the success we have hoped for

no shit sherlock....

1 you'll be presented with two jobs. One will lead to a more caring, nice type of guy, while the other will lead to a bad boy.

so basically Brian 2.0 ?