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I suggest to add an option for full upgrade in one click(if you have the money of course).
[Ren'Py] SU Re-Imagined, an UNOFFICIAL Proof of Concept Ren'Py Demo - Community Development Thread
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OK, looks really good so far!
I'm wondering if you can make the 'contour shading' a bit less prominent. What I mean here is that for things like kneecaps you are using black lines, using a 'medium cyan' to highlight the areas without calling too much attention to them. Most of the other SR7 girls tend to use gradients for these things, and SR7 uses black mainly for 'outline' purposes.
In short, I think that there may be just a little too much detail here. Killer Frost is probably the best 'blue girl' example I can think of for comparison...
I get that this is an artistic style thing, I'm just concerned about jumping between 'style levels' if that makes sense. I really like what you've done with Braniac 8/Indigo, I just think a touch of simplification may be in order here to 'match up' better with SR7's style. That's my opinion anyways!
What you've come up with is pretty awesome looking!
I'd be really interested in other people's opinions on this though! I was hoping that you'd get more feedback in the Re-mix/Fanart thread but of course people mainly just leave likes, and may not be looking at things from a 'game environment' perspective...
So that others are aware, Indigo plays a pretty significant role in the alternate backstory idea I have, and of course eventually it'd be great to be able to arrange for some sexy fun time scenes down the road with her (her initial role is a bit like Mercy/Roulette/Tala/Catwoman so sex isn't immediately on the table).
As for other Lanterns, for right now I'd just be happy with having Katma Tui... a version that pays a decent homage to the DCAU source material but 'fits' within the SR7 style. I did throw together a version using Vixen as 'source art', but there were a number of adjustments needed so it wasn't a simple case of just changing the hue...
A 'wish list' thing will be to have Katma and Sinestro getting it on in the MB, but again that's down the road a bit...
A lot of the differences between SR7's artwork and mine is the type programs and hardware that we're using. I don't have a drawing pad, (although it has been on my Christmas wish list for years.} What I'm producing is by utilizing MS Paint, GIMP and a laptop, (small screen Vs a larger monitor). I can get closer to what SR7 is doing using those tools but it takes longer. I'll take a stab at it after I finish the nude versions.
I'm used to the getting only likes instead of feedback from stuff I've posted on other Forums. Usually, most of the feedback I get is when I'm working with someone like you and I are now.
Katma and Sinestro, . . . . Hmmmm, . . . . I keep seeing in my minds eye Sinestro strapped down with Boodikka and Arisa Rrab restraining him with their rings, waiting their turns while Katma has her way with him as her boy toy, . . . (just a passing thought, . . . )
Seems good so far. Since it's unfinished in places I'm not sure what could be bugs and what not, but thé following things I'm fairly certain look bugged:
- I can add Hawkgirl to two slots at the same time.
- Stargirl's portrait missing from het assignment slots.
- At one point the menu overlay (right top button) got stuck and it stayed in place every scene untill dissapearing randomly. Have not been able to replicate it.
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The menu overlay thing, did it start after clicking on the Lexcon interface buttons inside of Lexcorp? I've had that happen too and need to look into adding a couple of hide screens for that.
As for the other issues I haven't seen those. Are you using the latest Star Girl girl pack? It might be a loose end from that..
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if you are using the Stargirl pack I uploaded, did you delete the existing folder or just overwrite (overwriting is the way to go)
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this is actually the kind of feedback I’m going for most of the time
Brainiac8/Indigo with Nude variants of the armed a cannon styles. I'll have to take a look at what I can do to simplify the shading to the SR7 style. I'd like to do it without having to completely redraw it. I'll drop these variants into the fan art thread after you've had a chance to look at them OhWee.
In the meantime, I think I'll look into seeing what kind of mischief Harley(s) can get into, . . .
In the meantime, I think I'll look into seeing what kind of mischief Harley(s) can get into, . . .
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I think how you and Sunset highlight is one of the most noticeable differences I see between your and his work. Not trying to be mean, just trying to give constructive criticism.
I created the Brainiac8 artwork on a request from OhWee. He likes the concept but wants it closer to the SR7 style so that it fits in with any future or alternate game developments in the SU universe.
It's not just the highlights. I watched some of SR7's streams and our approach, details and tools that we use are different. I can get something closer to the SR7 result but I really need to get some different hardware and software and start learning and practicing different techniques.
Now that I've finished the variants, I'll give it a shot using my current stuff to see how close I can get. I can manip artwork thats currently in the game but if it's a new character such as Brainiac8 or Katma Tui, I generally start from scratch,
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I've had to approximate how SR7 does things in my Photoshop edits. This generally involves using very small brushes to recreate the outlines (say 1-3 pixels) and cleaning up edges and such with the eraser tool as needed. It's not ideal, watching how the software SR7 uses, it 'autoselects' to take the outlines into account, but I make do.
Of course, I haven't tried to paint a character completely from scratch. I started to take a stab at Kitelass, then came to the conclusion that there were more important things that I could be working on (code) so I abandoned that effort.
My main 'critique', i.e. simplification, is because others may come in behind you to try to make other poses and such (sex scenes, etc.) so the simpler the curves and shading are, the easier it'll be for others to 'approximate' your style.
I've dropped Indigo into a 'game situation' here for context:
This is something that'll happen pretty regularly ingame (Indigo standing next to other characters), so she needs to look like she 'fits' with the other characters if that makes sense.
No question that SR7 simplified the shading on characters quite a bit, and later characters do have a bit more detail (Cassie/Donna), my main concern at the end of the day is that everything looks 'proper' in relation to other elements in the scene.
To be clear, I think your version of Indio is REALLY COOL! I'm just curious r.e. what other fanartists and fans think about this!
Again, I'd love to hear others feedback on this! Thanks for chiming in Sinner87 ! What does everyone else think?
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Your Brainiac 8/Indigo is nicely drawn, but does indeed clash against the rest of the game.
Her face is really well drawn, that could easily have been in an official DC/Marvel comic book. It's very detailed. Which is actually a problem here - SU characters are much more simpler looking, since they're based on the DCAU shows, where comic characters were simplified to make the work easier for the animation teams.
(For instance, Zatanna and Black Canary wear fishnets in the comics, while they wear tights in pretty much every animated media since it makes drawing the characters over and over a much easier task.)
In addition to the detail, her shape is also different from the SU characters. For example, SU females have sharp, pointed chins, while the males have wide, flat chins. (See Mercy and Lex in OhWee's pic above.) Your Indigo is something in between, having a rounded chin.
SU females also have wide, "heroic"-looking shoulders, noticably wider than their narrow waists - even petite characters like Audrey.
Maybe it's the angle, but your Indigo's shoulders look rather narrow, deviating from the style of the game.
tl;dr: She looks like a comic book character while the rest of game's cast look like animated tv show characters, making the art styles clash.
Now, ignoring whether she fits in SU or not, I think she's hot as fuck and I love the muscular but still feminine look you gave her, as well as her confident stance.
If you were to make your own game (Brainiac Trainer by Macfinn99!!!), I would be interested in playing it because of this art. Her hair is especially beautiful. (Just be wary that having to draw that level of detail over and over might be a daunting task.)
Your Brainiac 8/Indigo is nicely drawn, but does indeed clash against the rest of the game.
Her face is really well drawn, that could easily have been in an official DC/Marvel comic book. It's very detailed. Which is actually a problem here - SU characters are much more simpler looking, since they're based on the DCAU shows, where comic characters were simplified to make the work easier for the animation teams.
(For instance, Zatanna and Black Canary wear fishnets in the comics, while they wear tights in pretty much every animated media since it makes drawing the characters over and over a much easier task.)
In addition to the detail, her shape is also different from the SU characters. For example, SU females have sharp, pointed chins, while the males have wide, flat chins. (See Mercy and Lex in OhWee's pic above.) Your Indigo is something in between, having a rounded chin.
SU females also have wide, "heroic"-looking shoulders, noticably wider than their narrow waists - even petite characters like Audrey.
Maybe it's the angle, but your Indigo's shoulders look rather narrow, deviating from the style of the game.
tl;dr: She looks like a comic book character while the rest of game's cast look like animated tv show characters, making the art styles clash.
Now, ignoring whether she fits in SU or not, I think she's hot as fuck and I love the muscular but still feminine look you gave her, as well as her confident stance.
If you were to make your own game (Brainiac Trainer by Macfinn99!!!), I would be interested in playing it because of this art. Her hair is especially beautiful. (Just be wary that having to draw that level of detail over and over might be a daunting task.)
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I knew that this version of Brainiac8/Indigo was not in the SR7/Bruce Timm style. It was drawn in response to OhWee's request for a Brainiac8 that was both sexy and menacing. The title is Brainiac8-Composite because I combined about 4 different artworks plus my own modifications to get that look. The first one has her with a cannon arm because as an android, she has the power to morph her body to provide weapon, armor, claws, . . . etc. OhWee commented that the cannon might get in the way for sexual activities, hence the follow up drawing with a 'normal' right arm. The nude variants were just to see what I could do to complete the concept.
Another non-SR7 feature is that I used a POV stance with foreshortening to enhance a more menacing appearance. I'm working on a simplified version of the Brainiac8. Yes, the hair is a pain to reduce, but I'm working on it along with pointed chin and simpler shading. I will miss the 'poke-your-eyes-out' nipples and bubble butt, but as the saying goes, we must suffer for our art, . . .
I collect animation model sheets and have a substantial collection of Bruce Timm templates. Would it be helpful for other artists to post them here or on the Fan Art thread?
Another non-SR7 feature is that I used a POV stance with foreshortening to enhance a more menacing appearance. I'm working on a simplified version of the Brainiac8. Yes, the hair is a pain to reduce, but I'm working on it along with pointed chin and simpler shading. I will miss the 'poke-your-eyes-out' nipples and bubble butt, but as the saying goes, we must suffer for our art, . . .
I collect animation model sheets and have a substantial collection of Bruce Timm templates. Would it be helpful for other artists to post them here or on the Fan Art thread?
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My attempt to SR7ify the Brainiac8 art. I think I've addressed most of your Issues with her OhWee. (It's a learning experience that I will apply in the future, . . . )
I agree that the Kitelass artwork is way too detailed, I may try to SR7ify that piece OhWee, I'm also looking at a trying a Mary Marvel piece. Mary Marvel would be a good foil for Superwoman. I'm surprised that SR7 hasn't added her yet.
I agree that the Kitelass artwork is way too detailed, I may try to SR7ify that piece OhWee, I'm also looking at a trying a Mary Marvel piece. Mary Marvel would be a good foil for Superwoman. I'm surprised that SR7 hasn't added her yet.
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I've been waiting for others to give some feedback on your efforts, as I'm genuinely interested in additional feedback.
Also, Kitegirl? Are you talking about Kite Lass? Kite Lass is a character I put together using Daz Studio, and her artwork is my attempt to use a different render engine (other than Iray) to make her look a little more stylized. If you were going to put efforts into another character, I'd suggest an 'established' character. Kite Lass has a role in one of my other future projects, so her 'future' is already planned. The main reason I added her to ReImagined was solely for example purposes, to illustrate that adding new characters is definitely an option and something people want to see.
If someone wanted to take a stab at running Kite Lass through some AI routine, that'd probably be faster in any case. I can easily provide 'clean' renders of her without a background as source art, in whatever poses are needed. But again, other things should be of a much higher priority.
One note, I don't mind if Indigo has a slightly more rounded chin, more in line with your original piece. Maybe not so much of a 'square' chin, but a balance between the two... I may play around with the art you shared to try a couple of things if the mood strikes...
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Wish it was that easy, but img to img never seems to give a faithful result, at least to me