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fishbrain

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Just in case anyone else is getting this error after installing the crack, you have to unren the scr file before you move the 3 crack files into the game folder, then delete the original scr file.
 
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Just in case anyone else is getting this error after installing the crack, you have to unren the scr file before you move the 3 crack files into the game folder, then delete the original scr file.

Oh, yeah, thank you. I always forget to also put the empty .rpyc placeholder files in my cracks.

I've updated the crack. Now it should work without need to unzip and delete original .rpyc files.
 

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Alright, here's my thoughts on 0.1.3:

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Hey!
As usual, great having your detailed feedbacks!

I divided your comment in paragraphs, to make it easier to respond to important points:

4. That was a mistake on my end, completely flew over my head that that relationship wasn't asked at that point into the story.
I believe the team already fixed that for the next update.

5. I agree, I also think it was super early for that, but because a bunch of people asked for it to happen, and we won't see much of that character anymore so soon, I decided to grant it.
At first, it was only supposed to be a Bonus Scene, not part of the story, but I decided to just go forward and add it as a new branch, for the people who want it.
Noting that it won't affect the story too much. It was just a "freak encounter", but it should affect the story slightly, far into the future, depending if you continue to share Amy throughout the story, and then meet the "Hobo" again towards the end of Season 1.
Basically, I also don't feel that it's natural or even the META in NTR stories, but it's there for the people who want to take it.

6. Lovely to hear it, I also feel like there are many different fetishes related to NTR/NTS, some of them related to smaller penises or sharing your girl with "beta" males.
There will definitely be a lot of huge dicks, more so than not, but some antagonists will have smaller ones, and even one character with a micro-penis.
Some people were mad that this was the case, but I don't expect everyone to love everything, what I do expect is to bring something for everyone.

8. You should definitely play IJ, but maybe don't worry too much about it so soon.
I plan to release a "Prelude" for it soon (after LT's), showing the exact Branches you should follow to reach Laurie's ending, and explaining everything that you should consider, related to characters from that game.
It will probably be much better to wait for this Prelude is out before trying IJ.

I'm trying my best to release LT's Prelude in the next update, but damn that Prelude is complicated xD.

9. Nadia, YAY!
Also, we'll explain how her scene was made canon in LT's Prelude.

11. I don't know what to say, I'm personally very sad that the Bonus Stuff was deleted from recent versions...
I suspect the Gallery renders will still come out, but slower than 1 page every update, as it once was.
Not my position to address this, but I'm honestly sorry those are gone.

Thank you for the feedback, I'll see you in the next update.
(To be fair I also read your other feedbacks to have an idea of how the community is liking the other games, considering RoT does or might involve those characters at some point).
 

michelita

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yeah last update made it so all protags share the same name . so before it would would be protag X , protag Y now its protag (LT) , protag (RTM) .
Will this be fixed? It's really lame to play 5 guys with the same name. You also only input your relationship to Mia, I guess that goes for all girls too so either everyone is related or no one is
 

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Will this be fixed? It's really lame to play 5 guys with the same name. You also only input your relationship to Mia, I guess that goes for all girls too so either everyone is related or no one is
i doubt it . the whole reason its been made like this is cause people were annoyed of typing in so many names and relationships .
 
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ReiCaixa

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Will this be fixed? It's really lame to play 5 guys with the same name. You also only input your relationship to Mia, I guess that goes for all girls too so either everyone is related or no one is
i doubt it . the whole reason its been made like this is cause people were annoyed of typing in so many names and relationships.
Honestly, I also prefer the old naming system (a lot), but no one seemed to make any noise ;);) in official sections (Patreon or Discord), so they didn't bother to change it back...
I even made sure to ask in the main Discord chat if anyone missed the ability to name each MC differently.
No one said a word. In fact, multiple people said they didn't care.

I'm probably the only person who checks this thread, and I'm not the one who makes those decisions.
I already made my argument there, something similar to this:
Imagine one of the girls saying:
"Hey Rei, can you and Rei go to Rei's room and bring him here?"

Or of 2 people are talking about 2 MC's and one of them says:
"Hmm... I like Rei, he's cute. But not a fan of Rei, he's a bit of a dick."

(...) when I proposed the idea of adding the tag to MC's names (when they're talking), I didn't mean to force the players to use the same name for all of them. It was meant to enable the players to do that, making it more clear who's talking.
If they didn't listen to me the first time (didn't think the change was needed), I won't keep arguing. Already tried what I could.

Now it's up to the cummunity to make their voices heard, where they're being heard.
Or just mod that feature in, which should be possible since I'm still using different codes for all MCs. (I'd use that mod).
 

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Honestly, I also prefer the old naming system (a lot), but no one seemed to make any noise ;);) in official sections (Patreon or Discord), so they didn't bother to change it back...
I even made sure to ask in the main Discord chat if anyone missed the ability to name each MC differently.
No one said a word. In fact, multiple people said they didn't care.

I'm probably the only person who checks this thread, and I'm not the one who makes those decisions.
I already made my argument there, something similar to this:

If they didn't listen to me the first time (didn't think the change was needed), I won't keep arguing. Already tried what I could.

Now it's up to the cummunity to make their voices heard, where they're being heard.
Or just mod that feature in, which should be possible since I'm still using different codes for all MCs. (I'd use that mod).
Thank you for acknowledging it doesn't make sense. I think most people don't mind because they're not reading much anyways. The main problem is these are established characters from previous stories so it's bizarre to see them with a bracket next to a single name to set them apart but no worries, I'll wait until the game is finished and mod the script a little
 

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Thank you for acknowledging it doesn't make sense. I think most people don't mind because they're not reading much anyways. The main problem is these are established characters from previous stories so it's bizarre to see them with a bracket next to a single name to set them apart but no worries, I'll wait until the game is finished and mod the script a little
I think that most of the players (even those who reads the story) name the MC of all the (A)VN they play after themselves (or after the same alter ego of themselves - I do so).
The whole point in letting the player choose the MC name is to ease immersion.

That because usually the player impersonates just one MC in each game.

This time is different: we control in the same game a bunch of MCs from other games, but they have not an estabilished name in theyr own game.

So, It would make little sense to force the player of this game to invent a bunch of names to differentiate characters he used to name all "Zeno" in their games.
Yeah, I could have chosen Albert, Bob, Carl, Dave, Eric... but then progressing the game... wait, who was Bob again? The one from Mia or from what game?

So when they were singularly nameble I named them "Mia Guy", "LT Guy", etc. just to rember from which game each one was.
 

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I think that most of the players (even those who reads the story) name the MC of all the (A)VN they play after themselves (or after the same alter ego of themselves - I do so).
The whole point in letting the player choose the MC name is to ease immersion.

That because usually the player impersonates just one MC in each game.

This time is different: we control in the same game a bunch of MCs from other games, but they have not an estabilished name in theyr own game.

So, It would make little sense to force the player of this game to invent a bunch of names to differentiate characters he used to name all "Zeno" in their games.
Yeah, I could have chosen Albert, Bob, Carl, Dave, Eric... but then progressing the game... wait, who was Bob again? The one from Mia or from what game?

So when they were singularly nameble I named them "Mia Guy", "LT Guy", etc. just to rember from which game each one was.
To me it doesn't help immersion for 1 guy to be the brother of dozens of different girls (housemates I don't care for), besides you can see their faces and none of them is mine so I can't self insert like you do but to each their own. Thankfully, all MCs have different identifiers so I'll modify the script when I decide to play.
It's a bigger problem for Reicaixa who has to write out of that mess. Cheers
 
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To me it doesn't help immersion for 1 guy to be the brother of dozens of different girls (housemates I don't care for), besides you can see their faces and none of them is mine so I can't self insert like you do but to each their own. Thankfully, all MCs have different identifiers so I'll modify the script when I decide to play.
It's a bigger problem for Reicaixa who has to write out of that mess. Cheers
Well, if you choose Robert, you don't have one Robert who is Brother to Mia, Jessica, Megan. You have
One "Robert (LT)" who is brother to Jessica and Megan
one "Robert (SwM)" who is brother to Mia
etc.

I agree that this is a messy solution, especially because the name suffix in parentheses is just used to name the sayer in the GUI, but not in dialogues, so yea...

"Robert is nicer than Robert"
or, since we're in the NTR department of Inceton so the NNEA (No NTR Enfrorcing Agency) is out of jurisdiction:
"Robert is willing to share his sister with Robert"
"Wow, I can't believe being double penetrated by Robert and Robert"

...would be really idiotic.


But, FFS, ReiCaixa should definitely be allowed to imagine and write situations/dialogues like these!
What's the point of calling it Inceton NTR if sharing a LI between two MCs is out of the picture?

Go for it, Rei, keep writing using separate identifiers, and if the bosses at Inceton keep not getting that forcing all those variables to be filled with the same string is idiotic, surely a few mods will be published here. I can already count two people willing to patch this mess (probably each one in his own way): michelita and myself.


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IMO, the little mod I made for a few release ago was the simplest solution for naming the boys: providing defaults as:
LT Guy, SwM Guy, etc... which the user can either confirm by just hitting return or edit as pleased.
This could be implemented directly by Inceton.

For relationships they can't put "sister" due to the no-incest rule of patreon, but leaving it without default once they ask for relationships between SwM Guy and Mia they could ask "Do you want to use these relationships also for characters from the other games?"
 
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