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LOL, I thought the same.
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Yup. Was expecting a sort of Harem or at least some sort of resolution lol. Instead its just edge for no reason. Dunno if the author just gave up halfway cause the end came really abrupt. At least 2 seperate endings or more reaction/interaction from the girls in their 3rd and 4th hearts.
Missed potential.
There literally is a harem option. you just dont kill anyone. Honestly Im pretty sure the only options are kill everyone or dont kill everyone. Its pretty easy to get.
you even get a Scene at the end with you having harem sex.
you even get a Scene at the end with you having harem sex.
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Well, that just traps you in purgatory forever.
I meant "Harem" as in you break the girls' will, and then you all get back to the real world, and they remain your girls (sex friends, girl friends, whatever...). That was the happy ending I wanted.
You play erogames for the ending????
TBH this game is miles better than static image games, the voice acting was good too.
tbh I don't really like the realistic theme of this game so I thought it would payback if it had a satisfying ending. I admit I was kind of bashing the game for not being my cup of tea and it had good production being an h game.
Seriously. This was legit the absolute last place I'd ever expect to come out of an ending thinking(broadly) the same kind of thoughts that I thought coming out of Hotline Miami 2 of all things... That game completely indulged in over-the-top brutality and violence, getting the player into the "flow of gameplay" as you tore through stages, only to then dump a cold bucket of water on your head and make you stare at everything you did. Even the endings for both games were rather depressing in the broad scheme of the story, reinforcing the "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" idea that the game had constantly been building towards. But the key thing that tied it all together was that, it raises the question of "Is violence okay in games, because no one is actually being hurt, even if it's bad IRL?", and genuinely leaves it open for the player to decide on their own.
Meanwhile here, both endings pretty clearly imply MC doesn't really get a happy ending. Sure the alt-ending he gets an eternal harem which seems cool, but even the narrator says that MC has lost something important about himself in the process, and that he won't really ever be able to return to society. But, unlike Hotline Miami, where the loop of being absorbed into the ultra-violence followed by being snapped out of it made it clear you shouldn't be mindlessly indulging the bloodshed, here the big moral lesson just drops in at the very end.
Hiyori sorta brings it up at her 2 heart event, mentioning how "You're just like me now, a cruel sadist reveling in other's misery", but it never gets brought up again really, and MC does point out legit problems the girls all have. Natsuna cared more for her high horse position rather than actually inacting justice despite all she preached about it, even allowing herself to be swept up in the MC-hate train when they publicly outed his notebook even though she also started to get some doubts about Hiyori's claim, Hiyori is straight up a sociopathic sadist who only cares about other people when it benefits her, streaming and getting so frustrated over how she's viewed by others as a kid yet ruining MC's life without a second thought, and Mion falling into the cliche bully archetype of "hiding your insecurities by controlling and belittling others so you feel better in comparison".
So if it's meant to be an indulgent power fantasy, the ending feels conflictingly moral compared to the rest of the game, and if it's meant to be a moral lesson on hate fueling hate and making everyone suffer, why even make it so clearly a "porn game to fap to" in the first place?
Bro, what did you expected from the devs? Their other games are about kidnapping and torturing a girl in a room, abducting and selling girls as prostitutes and training a succubus whore.
I loved how this game mixes eroticity and gameplay so well. And the story and writing are very satisfying.
Got any similar stuff?
Got any similar stuff?
billyb0b
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I first want to say a big thanks to you osanaiko for all your hard work translating this game into english, it is much appreciated. Like you i got into this game based on the concept and art and liked the idea of turning the sex into a gameplay aspect, and I was not aware of the previous games by the devs.
Finally just got around to playing this and I gotta say it's much harder than I'd expect. I will fully admit its probably just a skill issue but If I didn't have the helpful posts in this thread with strats I would have had a lot of trouble. Hiyori was one of the most annoying opponents with fetishes that I find unappealing so that was a little frustrating. Overall tho, I liked the gameplay. (There are a few things Im still not clear on, like what does the stimulant do and why is pulse 0 attack 7 "circumvent" but then it actually does damage? This could have been better explained)
Story wise I really only needed the lead in. These three girls bully PC and in his strife he randomly downloads a magic app that sets everything in this game into motion. The Game can kill as an easy motivating factor for why the girls that hate you choose to do sexual things with you so I didnt think to much about it. As the game goes on you see more of the back story play out, which personally was not at all necessary for me, we get it, they are mean, almost comically so. The story in this game is probably the weakest part.
The art is fine, there was a little tweening of the images which was better than nothing and the sound effects and voice acting were nice, though I cant understand the language.
The worst aspect of gameplay in my opinion was the "refusal" mechanic. This tediously dragged out things and is definately why I was at about 100 hours (or turns) before I could get everyone to 1 heart, since I was always keeping the cross count below 30. It also doesnt help that the "Refusal" scene must be played out for any reward or else you just end them and then you wasted AP. Didnt like it at all.
I have not yet beaten it but honestly by what I've read, sounds like I dont need to really. One day I would like to make a game like this but a bit less dark and with more encounters. 3/5 rating for me.
SoulsSurvivor
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This game desperately needed something extra to make the gameplay worth it. Something like discovering secrets to find a hidden way out, make it interesting like finding this secret has to be your first action and uses all your AP. That way you still have to pay attention to the actual game part still, add some other stipulations for secrets because just that previous suggestion would be too easy. Not every game needs a happy ending, but I do think it's more often expected in harem games simply because it leaves people wondering why they wasted their time more often than not.
Are there any heavy themed games like the final scenes in this? Saw the recomendation for Succubus Academia, but that seems to be entirely femdom focused. Really like the role reversal vibes in this one.
honestly in term of gameplay it's probably the best H-game i've ever played
it's straight-forward, u can play it with one hand and it's kinda fun
probably my top 1 Hgame gameplay
it's straight-forward, u can play it with one hand and it's kinda fun
probably my top 1 Hgame gameplay
Oir
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Check out Sapphire's Purge by Haganken.
Uses the exact same engine but moreso tentacle/monster tags.