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I love this Renpy version so much and I am thankful for any continuation/ending provided to the game if Ferdafs abandoned the game, but to be honest I was underwhelmed by this first part.
I don't really want to say too much about where the ending is headed without spoilers sadly... But I do promise (very minor spoiler) things get better for Morty from here (this is meant to feel like the lowest point). Hopefully you still want to stick around to see where it goes, and luckily you won't have to wait too long for the next part, and (minor spoilers) it might have you rethink some things.


The only thing I can address at the moment is the going home choice, because, that one is done. Yeah, it's short, and doesn't have much to it. But there are a few big reasons for that.

First, limited capacity on my end. I can spend a lot of time on a choice (I don't think) most people are realistically going to pick (other than to see what it does), or I can spend that time on other things. While that time doesn't show for this update, it will in the next part (if I had doubled the ending in Part 2, I'd have to have halved the content in Part 3, I don't have infinite time or drive to do it all).

Second, I didn't want the "go home" ending to be satisfying. It really can't be. Morty is running away from everything he has built to go backwards. New found confidence or not, things just won't be the same. And they certainly shouldn't be better.

Third (the way out on a limb reason) if Ferdafs ever does come back and give us a go home ending, then I have no trouble kicking the one I made out and replacing it with (hopefully) something better.

Anyhow... thanks for the feedback!
 
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aaronminus

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Thank you Aaronminus for talking NightMirror into shooting for the stars~!
And thank you to Night Mirror, who heard my …ambitious… ideas and said there’s a version we can actually turn into reality! Seriously, I pitched it fully expecting a 1-800-HELL-NO, and it wouldn’t have been unreasonable for him to do so! For all the volunteer work I’m taking on, he’s taking on a LOT more to give everyone the ending that’s coming. o_O

The first pitch of this thing was a combination of a lot of speculation on what I’d ideally like to see from Ferdafs over time (swimming in my head before his disappearance), maybe a personal pipe dream or two, and… other factors, which could be spoilery (can you tell how careful we’re being?)

That said, the version you’re getting has a lot of Night Mirror’s creative contributions (not to mention blood, sweat and tears) as well, I don’t want this to come off as if I’ve taken the reigns and written the ending without him. Both of our fingerprints are all over this (so when this plane hits the tarmac, send him the flowers, and I’ll take any torches and pitchforks ;)).

I love this Renpy version so much and I am thankful for any continuation/ending provided to the game if Ferdafs abandoned the game, but to be honest I was underwhelmed by this first part.

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Anyway, just felt like sharing some feedback. Unusually negative this time, sorry about that. This game (which I've exclusively played on the Renpy version) remains one of my favorites. Thanks for the work of love Night Mirror! I look forward to the future updates!

Ending any story isn’t easy, let alone a 35 hour visual novel that’s been abandoned prematurely, with a bunch of characters we love in various states of development, lingering plot threads out the wazoo, and limited resources between us… and while we can’t possibly satisfy everyone’s personalized dream ending, my hope is that, when all is said and done, this final AWH tale (which you’re currently only seeing the beginning of) can hold up to the standard set by the rest of Night Mirror’s awesome game. :giggle:(y)
 
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Alright, last post for the day I promise. I really enjoyed where you're taking the story. Having everything occur all at once feels a bit "rushed", but the reasons for that are obvious so I won't bemoan it. I'm looking forward to seeing this drama wrapped up. As far as the mindblowers go, I enjoy having everything conveniently on one page, but I think fact checking the fetish tags is a bit too troublesome for volunteers to deal with. Maybe someone else would be up to the challenge I don't know. Personally, I only sort by characters since that's what matters the most to me.

And of course it wouldn't be an update without...

Bug/Typo Report

Day 8: Underwear BJ
  • "I'm not sure about this, Summer... Should really be going so far?" should be "I'm not sure about this, Summer... Should we really be going so far?"
Day 10: Sleeping Summer
  • "(Man, her mouth look so... nice...)" should be "(Man, her mouth looks so... nice...)"
  • "(It was so fucking hot coming down your throat!)" should be "(It was so fucking hot cumming down your throat!)"
Day 12: Morning Chat
  • "Taking birth control long-term can have serious side effects, especially for as women get older." should be "Taking birth control long-term can have serious side effects, especially as women get older."
Day 12: Ball Fondlers
  • "Oh, that's good. I-I-I'm pretty wet down there, so we should be ready to start" needs a period.
Day 25: Sleepover
  • "Good job, here's you're well earned reward." should be ""Good job, here's your well earned reward."
Day 37: Rick-Dick-ulous
  • "They are compy and soft!" should be "They are comfy and soft!"
Day 39: Ethan's Plan
  • "You're been good to me, and I'll always love you for that." should be "You've been good to me, and I'll always love you for that."
Day 39: A Way Home
  • Renpy crash occurs after the line "Well, what did you do now?". Ignoring this error seems to replace Space beth's name with "Your wife" in the following dialogue as well.
 

harem.king

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Alright, YOLO! We're doing it now! (I mean... if you want...)
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I am looking for some players who are up for giving feedback on this new system (or, really anyone who want's to fuck around with it).

Attached is a small patch to change the gallery of the existing game over to the new Mind Blower system. This also contains a way to roll it back too, so if after tying the new one, you think, this is horrible, I need my sexy Nancy model back, you can just drop in the files and put it back the way it was.

I am looking for a few things here (feel free to give me more (or... less if you just want to try but don't want to help)). Biggest one is missing tags. There is limited space for tags, but some might more more/less important, I haven't fully checked every tag just yet. So let me know if scenes are missing tags, even ones not listed.

Also want to know what you think overall of it. Is it better? Worse? Any feedback is welcome!

Lastly, this is not set in stone as a for sure thing. And it might (will) go through several iterations of tweaks and improvements before release.
Personally, it kinda bothers me that the gallery is called mind blowers due to lore reasons.
Mind blowers is what you get when you remove a memory.
So to produce all those mind blowers would require MC to forget all the sex scenes that happen in the game.
 
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MangaKing

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Hope there is a scene with each of them finding out they are pregnant
Honestly kudos to you Night Mirror a lot of games get abandoned and it is extremely rare for them to be continued by someone else even if just to wrap up the story, I would not have blamed you for leaving this, Amazing job on going above and beyond. I'm also glad to hear that if Ferdafs does come back you would probably too, though I am curious about how much content Ferdafs was planning on putting out before disappearing, unfortunately, that doesn't look like a question that will be answered any time soon.
 

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Personally, it kinda bothers me that the gallery is called mind blowers due to lore reasons.
Mind blowers is what you get when you remove a memory.
So to produce all those mind blowers would require MC to forget all the sex scenes that happen in the game.
That ACTUALLY would work if there was an ending he had to forget everything, and had to be thrown back to his regular universe, hence the Mind Blowers room.
I know NM already has the endings figured that would be cool to add that little detail for one of the endings if it fits continuity
 

harem.king

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That ACTUALLY would work if there was an ending he had to forget everything, and had to be thrown back to his regular universe, hence the Mind Blowers room.
I know NM already has the endings figured that would be cool to add that little detail for one of the endings if it fits continuity
Oh.. right, because of multiple parallel universes.
But... apparently female morty is super ultra rare even in the multiverse. And I think there is only 1 citadel rather than multiple parallel citadels
 

aaronminus

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I’ll comment what I can comment on without confirming or denying anything that could maybe even be close to relevant to future story.

In-universe, the Mind Blowers mode is an app that Morty can play on his phone, installed via The Devil. So, he’s not actually using the… memory chamber… thing? It’s just the app.

Why would The Devil know about Mindblowers? He’s The Devil, he just knows these things. Why would he give to Morty a better version of what Rick built and name it the same thing? Probably to piss him off.
 

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As with most things in this game it's called Mind Blowers, because that's what Ferdafs called it. All I can do is guess why, but my guess is because of the mind replay nature, not the method of creation.

I will admit that it is sort of an intriguing thought, that the reason they are all unlocked from the start, and that they exist at all is because Morty has his mind wiped at the end of the game. I will confirm at least that this specific thing isn't what we have in mind. Additionally, if we're being lore picky about it, it seems like a MB needs to be made after the moment being erased, not all at once.

At the end of the day, it is largely just a bit of fun in a porn game, a call back to the show, not a direct use of something from it. Do Over is the same, it's a reference to the do over button Morty gets in vat of acid, but it certainly doesn't do the same thing, letting the player alter aspects of reality instead of re living them.
 
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hey nightmirror and aaronminus, just want to say you guys are doing god's work. Thank you for giving the game the best send off it can get given the circumstances. Thank you for trying harder than anyone here to make things work out for the better. Thank you for never giving up on this game, despite everything. I salute the 2 of you o7.
 

Aspiring Istari

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If the AI thing ended up working, so you that you could have effectively unlimited animation with relative ease, would the ending be postponed/cancelled? Whilst I am thoroughly looking forward to seeing what you have in store for an ending, I remember a while back you said that you're only wrapping things up due to a lack of creator content. But the AI thing could solve this issue potentially?
 

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AI wont solve anything anywhere in the foreseeable future, it's just a buzzword.

AI as such do not exist, what we have today are machine learning - which have some applications, but never creative.

Although holywood seems to have used 'ai' scriptwriters for decades...
 

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If the AI thing ended up working, so you that you could have effectively unlimited animation with relative ease, would the ending be postponed/cancelled? Whilst I am thoroughly looking forward to seeing what you have in store for an ending, I remember a while back you said that you're only wrapping things up due to a lack of creator content. But the AI thing could solve this issue potentially?
Generative art (LLMs) is nowhere near close, not even a little, for the art needs of this project. Ask for Morty and you'd be lucky to get something that looks even a little like his show counterpart, certainly nothing in the style of Ferdafs (even worse once you go down the porn hole). Even if it got better by leaps and bounds I still think it is a LONG way off from anything I'd have interest in using.
 
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Barenchi

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Hello, I have this bug when i try to load my savegame from another PC. Loading save created with the actual PC works, but no others.

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As far as the mindblowers go, I enjoy having everything conveniently on one page, but I think fact checking the fetish tags is a bit too troublesome for volunteers to deal with.
Says the player that also included a bunch of bugfixes in this very post :p My intent is not for players to tediously test every option (I mean, sure, if they want too...), but to point out things they find with their favorite scenes. I'll check, double check, and test the tags, but having lots of eyes looking for things I'm not is also very helpful. Speaking of bug fixes...


Bug/Typo Report

Day 8: Underwear BJ
  • "I'm not sure about this, Summer... Should really be going so far?" should be "I'm not sure about this, Summer... Should we really be going so far?"
Day 10: Sleeping Summer
  • "(Man, her mouth look so... nice...)" should be "(Man, her mouth looks so... nice...)"
  • "(It was so fucking hot coming down your throat!)" should be "(It was so fucking hot cumming down your throat!)"
Day 12: Morning Chat
  • "Taking birth control long-term can have serious side effects, especially for as women get older." should be "Taking birth control long-term can have serious side effects, especially as women get older."
Day 12: Ball Fondlers
  • "Oh, that's good. I-I-I'm pretty wet down there, so we should be ready to start" needs a period.
Day 25: Sleepover
  • "Good job, here's you're well earned reward." should be ""Good job, here's your well earned reward."
Day 37: Rick-Dick-ulous
  • "They are compy and soft!" should be "They are comfy and soft!"
Day 39: Ethan's Plan
  • "You're been good to me, and I'll always love you for that." should be "You've been good to me, and I'll always love you for that."
Day 39: A Way Home
  • Renpy crash occurs after the line "Well, what did you do now?". Ignoring this error seems to replace Space beth's name with "Your wife" in the following dialogue as well.
Fixed! Thanks for the finds!
 

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Hello, I have this bug when i try to load my savegame from another PC. Loading save created with the actual PC works, but no others.
That is really... odd. I unfortunately don't have a great code fix for it. My only real suggestion is using Day Selector and do over page to quickly restore your game state.

(On a technically level the issue appears to be that Renpy is passing a non list object to the confirm menu? This check is to change how the menu visually appears based on what the player is doing (loading/overwriting/deleting) but shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the save itself, it's just the yes/no option...)
 
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herpderpies

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Is anyone able to point me to where in the game the bestiality stuff is? Ive been parsing through the files but it is slow going and so far no luck
 
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