Storm0303

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Night Mirror, I gotta say man. You out did yourself so well, and I get that a lot of these games go unfinished, but at least you took the time to give us an decent ending.

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I'm heartbroken that there isn't new content, but it was truly fun while it lasted, cuz all good things must come to an end at some point. So once again, thank you because you truly took your time to give us something not most erotic game devs do sometimes, and that is to give a well-deserved ending.
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hello everyone, how many endings does this game have?
The game has two "endings" and one "game over". They are:

Game Over on Day 37 Scene 9: Morty's Choice and happens if you choose to give up Morticia 2 times in a row.

Ending #1 on Day 40 Scene 3: A Way Home and happens if and choose the option "I want to go home"

Ending #2 on Day 41 after the last scene in the game and happens if you just continue onto the end of the game.
 

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My only issue was not including Tricia in the end.
Of all the feedback I get about the ending, this is the one that comes up the most. The short answer is that there just wasn't a way to fit her into the final scene (have her magically show up (again?!)) both story wise and screen space wise (fitting 9 characters on screen, all interacting, was already way too many). Additionally, other than having her be there, there isn't a reason (anything for her to do) to be there (other than players wanting her to be there).

All I can really say is that she will show up in the epilogue (if I ever find the will to make it).


Also, should have also gotten Morticia pregnant with how many scenes there are of her.
Maybe she just hasn't had a chance to check yet? Beth and Summer only just found out.

From a narrative perspective (Ending spoilers below):
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bored_dude1

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I have not devoted a great deal of time to LLM art generators (maybe around 100~ish hours with stable diffusion), however the end result is that I'm just not that impressed by the results. I've played with a number of R&M loras (from civitai), and got them to generate (both single and) multiple characters, but not without issues, and (where the project is concerned) not close to Ferdafs style.

Several of the tests I've done is trying to "remake" existing art. Chosing an image the game already has and trying to generate something close to it. The end results aren't very~ good (in style, pose, content, consistancy). Or maybe I just don't have the proper terms for it. But that's another thing I have to devote more time and effort to (instead of doing the work I already have).

Even when I do get something "usable" it still isn't there, so I have to "re-draw" it anyhow.



Sadly, I think it is unlikely to be something I can use. Even if you can get it on style, it most likley won't be able to make the sort of images I need for this project (which has a narrow definition by it's very nature). At least for now, I feel that the tech just isn't there yet.
I understand. You have a very high standard for quality and consistency, which is respectable. I'm going to keep messing around with this for fun, will dump it in the mod thread if I'm every happy with it, and will let you know if I make some breakthrough in posing with controlnets or something.
 

falloutman2020

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I played a lot of this game a while ago and found it really fun. I'm glad to see it got completed. What day(s?) do Beth and Summer tell you they are pregnant? Is it at the very end?
 

maybelaterd00

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Does this remake has more content than the original?
Yes it has more content i do however wont to point out if you read the front page this is not a remake in a way you think
. But a fan named Night Mirror put it all together in a coherent fashion for us. and as we are not sure if the OG developer is still making the game Night Mirror was kind and added a ending for us so we have some kind of ending.
 

Magister Masquerade

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I loved this game. In a sea full of unfinished, abandoned, crash grab slow update and AI slop you created a masterpiece. I was sceptical about NTR but I am glad it is not that hardcore, it's very light hearted. Wise decision to not add more NTR. I know some some Cucks were demanding to add NTR (what's wrong with you why do you want to see your wife or gf get banged by someone else. GROSS). By adding NTR you will alienate the majority of fans who hate NTR. I have seen game which used to be vanilla but went on full NTR and losing fanbase and ultimately killing their game.
My only complaint is Tricia. She wasn't in the end as she was major part of the story, I feel like she should have been there but it's alright. I know dev gonna add more stuff and story. But I am glad it finally gets a conclusion.
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I hate NTR too, but calm down lol. These games aren't real, and just like how people like to pretend war and kill people in say a video game and think it's fun but not want the same in rl, some people just have different fetishes.

Combining the two like you are is essentially saying women with a rapeplay fetish want to be actually raped, etc, etc and THAT'S what's really gross. And credit should be dutifully given to all parties. I think Night Mirror is a champ and put a huge amount of effort into this, but he still ported and rearranged someone else's work in the grand scheme of things.

In short, don't kink-shame because it makes you into the bad guy, and at least toss a nod to Ferdafs who for all his flaws is still the creator of the original game and the only reason Night Mirror was able to get his hands on what eventually became his masterpiece.
 

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Status Report March 2025:
This is gonna be a short report, I didn't make any progress at all this month. I though a lot about it (on and off), and I looked through possible (in game) images to adapt, but no writing or drawing in March. I am doing a replay at the moment, (casually) looking for issues/errors/omissions.

I do plan to give the epilogue more focus this month, but, uh... we'll see how that goes.

Anyhow, thanks for being awesome!
 

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In a sea full of unfinished, abandoned, crash grab slow update and AI slop you created a masterpiece.
Magister Masquerade is correct, this project is more akin to an abridged anime (such as Sword Art Online Abridged), except I made it longer... and not as funny, but more sexy, instead of it's own game.

Like those abridged series, I didn't (for the majority of elements) write the main story, or draw the artwork, or make the animations, I simply remixed them into something similar but different. Not to say I didn't put a lot of work into this project. Even having all the assets, I still spent thousands of hours on this project over 4+ years of dev time.

Still, the majority of credit is due to Ferdafs. As I've said in the past, without him, this project can't continue. Which is part of why I did the ending, and the epilogue (at some point) will be the last major element before everything is done.


By adding NTR you will alienate the majority of fans who hate NTR.
I am very aware of the reaction levels for NTR (I don't really understand why this one fetish has such a huge divide, when it seems like there are so many others that would be more divisive (such as Sandbox, how can anyone get off to that?! why aren't there more thread arguments about horrible sandboxes!!! (this is a joke (sort of), please do not argue in thread about sandbox games))).

Had I decided to include more NTR (or, really any content with a tag people tend to avoid/argue over), I would have put in an alternate path/scene for players. Example with Morticia having a futa option in the final sex scene. 100% optional, scene works without it (heck, it even has three different options!). Story wise, additional NTR just didn't fit (that's what she said), plus, more art I'd have to draw...


My only complaint is Tricia. She wasn't in the end as she was major part of the story, I feel like she should have been there but it's alright.
Tricia got her whole own section of the ending (in her own update!), and I was pretty sure that would be enough. But, yes, this is the feedback (that and disapointment in dangling side character stories) I see the most often, players wanted her in the final scene, and I can understand that. I don't really see a good way to do that (for many reasons I've previous outlined), but I'll think some more on it and maybe squeeze her in (so people can stop complaining about it and move onto other things to be annoyed with).
 
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I am very aware of the reaction levels for NTR (I don't really understand why this one fetish has such a huge divide, when it seems like there are so many others that would be more divisive (such as Sandbox, how can anyone get off to that?! why aren't there more thread arguments about horrible sandboxes!!! (this is a joke (sort of), please do not argue in thread about sandbox games))).
Personally i dislike NTR but can go along with it sometimes. Not really sure what i determine to be acceptable ntr either. Meh.

Now about those horrible sandbox games, like everything from CeLaVie or maybe Sad Crab. Great art but terrible games. I kid I kid. But seriously Mirror thank you for doing this. Your version is one of my all time favs along with four elements trainer and witch trainer silver. Pretty much the only 3 games i actively look up to see if they got a wild update and to check their pages.
 
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