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I was just passing by because I wanted to see if there were any posts about the status of the updates and to catch up and whatnot with stuff related to this game.

I DID NOT expect to see an entire thesis about whatever fetishes yall were talking about. That post nut clarity must be hitting hard in the down time.
 

Elhemeer

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Redpill detected. You are few messages away from name dropping Andrew Tate, lol. Seriously thought, when did this thread developed into such deep existential cringe? Jestur need to drop update ASAP so that people can go back to discussing wholesome time travel incest story.
I just have to say, I didn't know Omar Epps could disturb me so much ...
 

Bill Temple

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I tried to pull the thread back into titty-talk but I clearly failed
Lemme try:
Okay, hypothetically assuming tha Mystery Man is both MC's dad and the future MC, if MC watches his dad/future self seduce and fuck one of MC's girls is it:
A) Netori
B) Netorare
C) Netorase
D) All of the above
E) None of the above

Additional info: Also assume the seduced love interest has only relatively recently become involved with MC (in his youthful state). Please answer for the following two cases: i) The seduced LI is aware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC; and ii) the seduced LI is unaware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC.
 
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Bill Temple

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Personally i doubt MC and his dad are the same, i doubt we're going to see the old Grandfather paradox in here.
Truth be told, I put odds at 3:2, maybe 2:1, myself. But, to avoid having to argue that part of the question, I included the words "hypothetically assuming".
 

Dragon59

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Redpill detected. You are few messages away from name dropping Andrew Tate, lol. Seriously thought, when did this thread developed into such deep existential cringe? Jestur need to drop update ASAP so that people can go back to discussing wholesome time travel incest story.
Who is Andrew Tate?

EDIT: Oh, the guy who had a Twitter fight with Greta Thunberg. You're right, some of those arguments are presented by Red Pill guys.
 
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Overlord070

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Lemme try:
Okay, hypothetically assuming tha Mystery Man is both MC's dad and the future MC, if MC watches his dad/future self seduce and fuck one of MC's girls is it:
A) Netori
B) Netorare
C) Netorase
D) All of the above
E) None of the above

Additional info: Also assume the seduced love interest has only relatively recently become involved with MC (in his youthful state). Please answer for the following two cases: i) The seduced LI is aware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC; and ii) the seduced LI is unaware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC.
Actually not that hard since it would always be B in MCs perspective.
 

akselx

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Personally i doubt MC and his dad are the same, i doubt we're going to see the old Grandfather paradox in here.
I would've agreed if not for unnecessary descriptive story about how mc's mom meet his dead somewhere at the beginning of the game. That scene along with the name of the game is what actually lead me to think it's a time travel story in the first place (didn't pay attention to synapsis or tags at the time).
 

1tomadeira

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Lemme try:
Okay, hypothetically assuming tha Mystery Man is both MC's dad and the future MC, if MC watches his dad/future self seduce and fuck one of MC's girls is it:
A) Netori
B) Netorare
C) Netorase
D) All of the above
E) None of the above

Additional info: Also assume the seduced love interest has only relatively recently become involved with MC (in his youthful state). Please answer for the following two cases: i) The seduced LI is aware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC; and ii) the seduced LI is unaware that Mystery Man is the aged version of MC.
So going along your theory, you're telling me the MC is cucking himself? That's a new whole level of dedication.
 

Dragon59

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I would've agreed if not for unnecessary descriptive story about how mc's mom meet his dead somewhere at the beginning of the game. That scene along with the name of the game is what actually lead me to think it's a time travel story in the first place (didn't pay attention to synapsis or tags at the time).
Met his dead what?
So going along your theory, you're telling me the MC is cucking himself? That's a new whole level of dedication.
I read The Man Who Folded Himself by David Gerrold back in high school.
The Man Who Cucked Himself would be a very new take on the genre.
 

KanyeT

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A very rich man having a large polygynous harem means that many of the women are effectively out of the gene pool and of those women who do have offspring, they will be only half-diverse--half of that population's next generation will be "roughly" 50% identical (well, probably closer to 25% individually, because the father gives 50% of his genes, but 50% of their alleles will come from one source).
The majority of men have not reproduced throughout human history, this is not unusual for people to be left out of the gene pool. You're acting like one single man mates with an entire society - no, half of the population's next generation will not be 50% identical. A tiny fraction of it will be because there is more than one man in a specific society able to provide for a child. The priority is always the survival of the offspring first and foremost.

In cultures where the survival strategy is based on the whole community working together to raise children, the diversity is strongly encouraged, evolutionarily. The situation you present above is a relatively recent development in human history, especially before agrarian societies.
But those cultures are not the norm, nor the majority. People have always worked together in societies to raise children, it doesn't mean they share resources or sperm. You just said above, agreed upon by reputable anthropologists, historians, and evolutionary psychologists, that the majority of civilisations throughout human history prior to 1,000 years ago were polygynous polygamies. So why are you now arguing that my polygonous situation is a relatively recent development?

You keep using that phrase...
Biologically wired (or biologically hard-wired) implies something we are born with and cannot change. Very little of human behavior is biologically wired--the vast majority is due to software rather than hardware, the behaviors we have modeled to us in childhood, the norms we were raised with. The same with biological imperatives--I don't see anthropologists or evolutionary psychologists using that term. A quick search for the phrase shows that it appears in a lot of sources that are not scientific journals. I would not trust Business Insider, Harvard Business Review and the like to be reliable sources for scientific information.
No, it means that humans are biologically rewarded for certain behaviours for the purpose of an evolutionary advantage to the point where it becomes natural instinct. We are biologically wired to pursue sex, for example. Or to pursue fertile women for reproduction. Or to fear death or social exclusion. Our sexual attractions are biologically wried based on what was evolutionarily advantageous for us as a species.

The tabula rasa theory is long since disproven and ridiculous pseudo-science. The majority of human behaviour is driven by genetic influences and biological urges, not by societal enforcement.

You have characterized non-monogamy (promiscuity) as unnatural. You declared that both men and women are turned off by promiscuity, making a general statement about men and women, and not qualifying it as some men and some women.

As I said above, anthropologists, historians, and evolutionary psychologists mark that modern monogamy is only about a thousand years old. Promiscuity did not just become prominent in the last 50 years, it was the norm for most of our human history.
No, I haven't, and it shows how much you have been paying attention. Polyamory (promiscuity) is unnatural, and it was not the norm in human history. Sexual exclusivity in both monogamy and polygamy is natural due to being evolutionary advantageous as I explained previously.

Both men and women are turned off by promiscuity. Requiring that I clarify a general statement like this with "some" is just uncharitable ridiculousness. If I say that dogs enjoy going on walks, it is just outright dishonest to hold it against me as all dogs enjoy going on walks in an attempt to counter my argument with "but not all!".

From my perspective, you presented your own cultural biases and presented them as norms for the species as a whole. My information is not limited to my own perspective, I have included research and publications by people in the field who study such things as a career, and whose papers are vigorously peer reviewed.
From my perspective, you can't follow the conversation and keep misunderstanding my position. I very clearly explained why my positions are evolutionarily advantageous and would have been practised behaviour throughout human history - it has nothing to do with current cultural practices. I haven't seen any research or publications from you - are hyperlinks or attachments not working for me or something? It's not like peer-reviewed means anything in science these days anyway.

Also, I did not claim to not understand, I said I didn't "grok it," a concept from Stranger in a Strange land (and common with the real world Church of All Worlds), meaning "To understand profoundly and intuitively (emphatically)."
I was referring to this post by yourself, where you claim to have vague understandings and guesses on a surface level.
 
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