VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.7.0 Public] [Jestur]

[lmh010101]

I think you're playing a different game than the rest of us. Tiff is suddenly not a party girl? Dude, play the history again.

Even if Tiffany was a party girl in her youth — and I don’t deny that — she’s not *just* another MILF in this story. She’s the MC’s mother. That changes everything in terms of how her storyline works emotionally.

The whole appeal of her route isn’t just erotic; it’s deeply tied to taboo, restraint, and slow-burning inevitability. If her past timeline plays out like every other character’s — just another casual hookup — it breaks the emotional tension that makes her special *in the present*.

So yeah, her story needs a different kind of build-up. Not because she’s “pure,” but because what she represents is unique. If the game doesn’t treat that differently, it risks flattening one of its most powerful dynamics.

 

[lmh010101]

Also, keep in mind that during this part of the timeline, young Tiffany already has a boyfriend — even if there's a theory that it’s actually the MC himself, the characters don’t know that in-universe.
So from Tiffany’s perspective, the MC is just a stranger (or someone who reminds her of her boyfriend). Any actual sex scene at this point would essentially be cheating — even if the player knows it’s “really” the same person, Tiffany doesn't. That makes it emotionally inconsistent and character-breaking.
Plus, even beyond in-story logic, many players (myself included) naturally project certain emotional expectations onto a character like "mom" — especially in taboo-driven stories. We *expect* her to be complex, restrained, emotionally loaded — not someone who casually jumps into bed with someone else while in a relationship. That tension — her restraint, her internal struggle — is a big part of what makes her emotionally powerful.
So just to be clear — I’m not against the idea of the MC eventually having an intimate scene with young Tiffany. That could be incredibly powerful, *if* it happens at the right moment, with the right emotional weight behind it.
What I’m saying is that her story arc needs a different kind of pacing — slower, more psychologically layered, more tied to the taboo and the build-up. If you rush it, the whole dynamic collapses into something much more shallow, and honestly, forgettable.
It’s not about moral purity. It’s about protecting the emotional architecture that makes her unique in the first place.

 

[Daermon420]

especially in taboo-driven stories.

Which this isn't. Yes, there's some flirting happening with mom and sis but I wouldn't consider that the primary driver of this story. Certainly not on the level of an avn focused on incest and family relationships. Sure, Jestur could pull a twist that the MC is the father of a lot of the present day love interests but I'd honestly be surprised if that happens because it'd nuke a large portion of their income seeing as most of that comes from Patreon and we all know how that goes these days.

I'd honestly be surprised if we hook up with either the mom or sister in any of the time periods at this point. It was probably something planned at the start when making this but since then things have changed with the crackdowns on incest in avns.

I could be completely wrong obviously. And would love it if I am, Tiffany and Jessica are both great.

 

[JJ1960]

I get why people want to see the MC hook up with young Tiffany — the taboo, the symmetry, the erotic setup, all of that.


But personally, I think it risks breaking something far more important than timeline rules. It breaks the emotional illusion that makes Tiffany so compelling in the first place.


She’s not just hot. She’s not just older. She’s the kind of woman the MC — and the readers — project something sacred onto: experience, restraint, emotional depth, even a kind of moral elegance. She’s the woman you weren’t supposed to have, but somehow did. That’s what makes it hit so hard.


But if the MC has sex with her younger self — someone who, at the time, doesn’t know him, doesn’t love him, and just goes with it — it rewrites that entire emotional architecture.


Suddenly, Tiffany’s not the emotionally rare, slow-burning, maternal ideal. She’s just another girl who would’ve said yes to any bold, confident guy.


Even if that guy is the MC himself, it still shatters the illusion. Because for us — the readers — what we imagined was a good woman, a special woman, one who reserved her body and emotions for someone who truly broke through her barriers.


If she gave it away casually in the past, then the magic of “she gave it to you in the present” disappears. The story stops being about fate, and starts being about access.


And that, to me, makes her less — not more.

For the other side of the argument, she's got amazing knockers.

 

[lmh010101]

Which this isn't. Sure, there's some flirting happening with mom and sis but I wouldn't consider that the primary driver of this story. Certainly not on the level of an avn focused on incest and family relationships. Sure, Jestur could pull a twist that the MC is the father of a lot of the present day love interests but I'd honestly be surprised if that happens because it'd nuke a large portion of their income seeing as most of that comes from Patreon and we all know how that goes these days.

Fair point — you're right that this isn’t an AVN fully centered around incest, and I didn’t mean to mislabel the entire story that way.
My point was more about how certain characters (like Tiffany) carry that emotional weight *as if* they were part of a slow-burn, taboo-focused dynamic — whether or not the story is officially built around that. And for players who resonate with that kind of tension, rushing her arc might feel like something's been lost.
Of course, there are all kinds of characters and tones mixed into this game — that's one of its strengths. I’m not trying to generalize or speak for everyone. Just offering a perspective from someone who tends to gravitate toward those slower, emotionally-charged storylines.
Thanks for pointing that out.
And just to add — I genuinely enjoy this game. I'm not a native English speaker, so I sometimes rely on translation tools to help express myself here. If anything I wrote came across the wrong way, that wasn’t my intention at all. I just really love the character writing and wanted to share some thoughts from a slightly different cultural angle.

 

[quangngx_23]

Does anyone know the ETA of the next update?