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Simpgor

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why devs don't make games from that perspective - male powerful CEO MC coercing young female emplyees into degenerate stuff. Now that would be hot.

Power fantasies on this site don't even deserve their name.

Also, April (the power plant clerk) might be MC's mum...
it feels like you mean to "rape every girl in a company but dont get in trouble and they love u" because otherwise there are multiple tags for "male powerful CEO MC coercing young female emplyees" :HideThePain:
 
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The thing is........ I LOVE THE POWER PLANT WIFE!!!!!

That sexy domineering cougar could make me her little submissive boytoy anytime she would want!!!!
 
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This makes me think that we don't really know how the question of the harem will be handled, or even if it will be addressed at all in the game. Perhaps it will just be a secondary element, or maybe it will only appear in an ending or alternative ending, with a few LIs considered as main ones.

As of now, I don't feel like the harem is a central theme in the game's story, and none of the LIs seem to really talk about it or make any clear reference to it (there are some jokes and winks in the story, like with Brad, but the game don't go further than that).
Might have already been pointed out since this post is pretty old but there is a tracked harem variable that you are able to increase across multiple episodes one point happening in update 6 (maybe 5 idr) so while I doubt Ripples will "delve into the making"' of the harem ala the latest update of Eternum; and considering many of the members would be related (to each other) "full harem scenes" will be unlikely the "harem run" is just as valid as any one particular girl from a variable perspective (bar writing/branching complications)

That being said even just as things are right now Skylar complicates it a fair bit since there are multiple states for her x MCs relationship and (thankfully) jestur seems against railroading the realationships (other than posting on here about people should give skylar the beneift of the doubt :HideThePain:)
 

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it feels like you mean to "rape every girl in a company but dont get in trouble and they love u" because otherwise there are multiple tags for "male powerful CEO MC coercing young female emplyees" :HideThePain:
nah, the "and they love u" part ruins it. the reason all the japanese rape games suck.

don't think there are many good games that do coercion. best I can think of probably Restore her career and Natsu. rest some shitty sandbox games.
 

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The thing is........ I LOVE THE POWER PLANT WIFE!!!!!

That sexy domineering cougar could make me her little submissive boytoy anytime she would want!!!!
Frustrating. MC wants to punish her on the 'dominating' path scene. What does he do? Fucks her just like she wants it hard to orgasm. Should have sticked it in for a minute and plaster her for his own pleasure if he really wants to show her. Servant attitude be damned lol.
 

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It seemed to me that one or more people had already mentioned this kind of information, but it did not really answer the question I had back then. My question was not whether or not there would be a harem, since we already know there is one, but rather what it would actually consist of and who would be involved.


At this point, we do not know much about Jestur’s plans regarding the harem. We do know that not all the girls will be part of it. I imagine the girls will let the MC know whether or not they want to be included. There will probably be secondary relationships, like side girls, and exclusive solo routes with some of the girls, while a few will become part of the actual harem.


It is possible, however, that the harem will be managed in a way where the girls more or less know that the MC is seeing others, tolerate it, and that’s about it. In other words, there may not be any scenes between the girls, and the harem won’t be fully acknowledged or openly embraced. This is quite different from more traditional harem games, like the one you mentioned, where there is typically a sequence of dialogues or events, with all the girls quickly joining and actively participating in the construction of the harem.


As for how exactly things will play out and with whom, for now we can only speculate. We have a few clues but nothing more concrete than that.
 
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It seemed to me that one or more people had already mentioned this kind of information, but it did not really answer the question I had back then. My question was not whether or not there would be a harem, since we already know there is one, but rather what it would actually consist of and who would be involved.

As for how exactly things will play out and with whom, for now we can only speculate. We have a few clues but nothing more concrete than that.
I figured due to the age I just happened to be looking at old posts to see if there was any mention/speculation about Skylar's mom reaction to her being gone/getting two sleeves and somehow your post came up :KEK:

Id say we can be pretty certain that any characters that are related to each other wont do anything beyond verbally acknowledge the existence of a harem due to monetization which removes a fair amount of possibilities :HideThePain: even without the patch theres still a fair amount of people that cant be involved sexually with each other at all
 

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I figured due to the age I just happened to be looking at old posts to see if there was any mention/speculation about Skylar's mom reaction to her being gone/getting two sleeves and somehow your post came up :KEK:

Id say we can be pretty certain that any characters that are related to each other wont do anything beyond verbally acknowledge the existence of a harem due to monetization which removes a fair amount of possibilities :HideThePain: even without the patch theres still a fair amount of people that cant be involved sexually with each other at all

Yeah, if we’re talking about the Patreon's TOS, it makes sense that Jestur wouldn’t include sex scenes where the girls are related to each other. Plus, he doesn’t seem to support the incest patch (now only supported in multimod), at least not as far as I know, and it’s not official.


That said, there are a few lines in the game that hint, indirectly, that the original script might have been written with this kind of direction in mind, at least with the MC and Tiffany/Jessica. But who knows, it could just be playful teasing or subtle hints.


This whole debate has been going on in this thread for ages, and it’s never really been settled, or it just keeps going in circles. Personally, I’m more inclined to believe the first theory since it seems to fit the game better.

On a different note, if you were looking for something about Skylar and her absence, there have been a lot of hypotheses and speculations made by several people in this thread. I think I even posted a pretty long one myself, just above the one you quoted, if you're looking for material on that topic. :)
 
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Yeah, if we’re talking about the Patreon's TOS, it makes sense that Jestur wouldn’t include sex scenes where the girls are related to each other. Plus, he doesn’t seem to support the incest patch (now only supported in multimod), at least not as far as I know, and it’s not official.


That said, there are a few lines in the game that hint, indirectly, that the original script might have been written with this kind of direction in mind, at least with the MC and Tiffany/Jessica. But who knows, it could just be playful teasing or subtle hints.


This whole debate has been going on in this thread for ages, and it’s never really been settled, or it just keeps going in circles. Personally, I’m more inclined to believe the first theory since it seems to fit the game better.
I agree especially with Tiffany if they are related her hesitations and Valerie teasing/pushing her towards MC makes logical in universe sense whereas a landlandy makes very little sense and the friend of his landlandy (Valiere) flirting somehow being scandalous at all makes negative sense. Jenny being your landladies sister also removes every reason not to pursue her beyond "no sex in 99 pls mc" which is more Scarlett/April's thing in the patched version

I am pretty sure when the game came out the rules/enforcement for incest were waaaaaaay more lax on Pateron, and i agree that the whole time travel plot where multiple girls have "missing" dads and MC just so happens to be having sex with their moms in the past fits pretty much perfectly :HideThePain:

but in a practical sense its not really an argument as long as he wants to be monetized no siblings/parents/cousins/any blood relation are allowed any sort of sexual content at all so for example making a scene with a threesome between MC x Scarlett x April would be a waste and would make sense to not develop/render at all, I think the more interesting thing is if devs have gotten fucked over JUST and ONLY an unofficial patch what is going to happen when MC has sex with Tiffany? Is the multimod going to drop the incest part? Will it be removed from OP even if its pointless now? Will Jestur avoid that scene alltogether (please god no) because at one point you could play the game with incest?

Edit: I was involved in the initial discussions about skylar and the tats/what they mean for her and the story and I have no desire to dive back into what was at the time at least was a hot topic :KEK: I just thought it would be funny to see how her mom reacted to her getting two full sleeves and or being gone when she freaked out and triedto forbid her adult daughter from seeing her friend without a valid reason haha
 

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I agree especially with Tiffany if they are related her hesitations and Valerie teasing/pushing her towards MC makes logical in universe sense whereas a landlandy makes very little sense and the friend of his landlandy (Valiere) flirting somehow being scandalous at all makes negative sense. Jenny being your landladies sister also removes every reason not to pursue her beyond "no sex in 99 pls mc" which is more Scarlett/April's thing in the patched version

I am pretty sure when the game came out the rules/enforcement for incest were waaaaaaay more lax on Pateron, and i agree that the whole time travel plot where multiple girls have "missing" dads and MC just so happens to be having sex with their moms in the past fits pretty much perfectly :HideThePain:

but in a practical sense its not really an argument as long as he wants to be monetized no siblings/parents/cousins/any blood relation are allowed any sort of sexual content at all so for example making a scene with a threesome between MC x Scarlett x April would be a waste and would make sense to not develop/render at all, I think the more interesting thing is if devs have gotten fucked over JUST and ONLY an unofficial patch what is going to happen when MC has sex with Tiffany? Is the multimod going to drop the incest part? Will it be removed from OP even if its pointless now? Will Jestur avoid that scene alltogether (please god no) because at one point you could play the game with incest?

Edit: I was involved in the initial discussions about skylar and the tats/what they mean for her and the story and I have no desire to dive back into what was at the time at least was a hot topic :KEK: I just thought it would be funny to see how her mom reacted to her getting two full sleeves and or being gone when she freaked out and triedto forbid her adult daughter from seeing her friend without a valid reason haha

I have no idea what Jestur has planned for Tiffany. So far, it seems like there has mostly been flirting and teasing with the MC, based on what I remember. So it looks like a relationship between them is being set up.


As for why the multimod would drop the incest patch, I do not really see a reason for that. After all, it is the same mod that took over after the previous incest patch was discontinued. So why would they suddenly stop just because Tiffany and the MC might end up having sex ? From what I understand, none of the mods are officially supported by the dev.

And as far as I know, the modders have not had any issues with their work. In the case of the incest patch included in the multimod, I assume it would only take a few added lines or small dialogue tweaks to make everything fit. Nothing that seems particularly difficult or unmanageable in principle.


Besides, why would Jestur avoid including scenes between them if, in his official version, there is no stated or acknowledged family connection between the two ? It would not go against Patreon’s terms or any of the established boundaries in the current version of the game.


As for Skylar, I was just pointing you toward some material that might be useful if you are digging into that topic. I was not really trying to bring the whole debate back myself either. x)
 
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As for why the multimod would drop the incest patch, I do not really see a reason for that. After all, it is the same mod that took over after the previous incest patch was discontinued. So why would they suddenly stop just because Tiffany and the MC might end up having sex ? From what I understand, none of the mods are officially supported by the dev. And as far as I know, the modders have not had any issues with their work.


Besides, why would Jestur avoid including scenes between them if, in his official version, there is no stated or acknowledged family connection between the two ? It would not go against Patreon’s terms or any of the established boundaries in the current version of the game.


As for Skylar, I was just pointing you toward some material that might be useful if you are digging into that topic. I was not really trying to bring the whole debate back myself either. x)
Because something said both in this thread and across the site is that dev(s) have had their Patreon’s removed and some people say that it was "ONLY" due to an "unofficial" patch for incest, IIRC people started saying this around when pateron/payment processors started cracking down on incest but I cant recall a confirmed example of a dev solely breaking the incest rule of no "blood relatives or part of the same immediate family " (via a patch) or if there were other reasons to have the Patreons removed.

If people have gotten their Patreon’s removed for stuff solely caused by an "unoffical" patch I think it makes some sense that Jestur could ask the multi mod maker to remove that aspect so no rules are "actively" being broken. I hope and think it wont matter as it relies on the above paragraph being true but there is a reason the patreon x incest memes are as preveleant as they are
 

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Because something said both in this thread and across the site is that dev(s) have had their Patreon’s removed and some people say that it was "ONLY" due to an "unofficial" patch for incest, IIRC people started saying this around when pateron/payment processors started cracking down on incest but I cant recall a confirmed example of a dev solely breaking the incest rule of no "blood relatives or part of the same immediate family " (via a patch) or if there were other reasons to have the Patreons removed.

If people have gotten their Patreon’s removed for stuff solely caused by an "unoffical" patch I think it makes some sense that Jestur could ask the multi mod maker to remove that aspect so no rules are "actively" being broken. I hope and think it wont matter as it relies on the above paragraph being true

I'm not really up to date with Patreon’s current policies, and I tend to be cautious about second-hand claims made by a few people. At this point, it feels more like a vague possibility than anything concrete. As long as Patreon isn’t putting any direct pressure on the developer or doesn’t have any real leverage to force him to act against modders he’s not affiliated with, I don’t see much reason for anything to change.


I assume the modders share that kind of script either here or on third-party platforms that are not connected to Patreon. I'm not an expert in legal matters, so I can’t give a definitive opinion on this either. I guess only Jestur and the person maintaining the multimod would really be able to answer that.
 

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I'm not really up to date with Patreon’s current policies, and I tend to be cautious about second-hand claims made by a few people. At this point, it feels more like a vague possibility than anything concrete.


As long as Patreon isn’t putting any direct pressure on the developer or doesn’t have any real leverage to force him to act against modders he’s not affiliated with, I don’t see much reason for anything to change.


I assume the modders share that kind of script either here or on third-party platforms that are not connected to Patreon.


I'm not an expert in legal matters, so I can’t give a definitive opinion on this either. I guess only Jestur and the person maintaining the multimod would really be able to answer that.
Its been awhile since those second claims started but they have been around for years at this point, and devs who had unofficial patches have also had their stuff nuked I just dont know if there was ever a specific "this is for breaking incest rule via patch" or if that was just the most obvious/only apparent one, it could also be that it was somehow shown to be made by the dev or any number of things that the public was made aware of. However as far as I know patreon doesnt always(?) put pressure/ask for the offending material to be removed and they seemingly straight up nuke the whole creator.

As for the multimod dropping the incest it could be dropped for whatever reason the "unoffical" one stopped being supported for example if "Jestur" "asked" the mystery patch maker to stop jestur could also ask the multimod person to not include the incest over fears of losing income regardless of how justified.

There is a reason/origin even vanilla incest (even if you have to patch them) games are more often found on other platforms and if they arent the first comments are almost always "gonna get nuked"

Obviously this only matter "if" multiuple things are true and its unlikey to matter until update after next as MC is still 20 years away from being able to commit incest even with the patch :KEK:
 
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I don't believe patreon would nuke a creator based on assumptions since if they do that they can get also legal troubles later, there must be always some kind of strong enough evidence linking a patch maker to the creator of the content itself or like some games I played before that left code in the game to be activated with a patch (easily spotted with URM and I always use it) and some of those are still active on patreon anyway but it is still a "rookie" mistake.

For sure patreon monitors sites like this (not that Jestur should be worried about it since I never saw them interacting here since the first day I started following this thread) and the creators ways of communication/social media like Discord and alike, if they do that is too get evidence to avoid legal troubles that can appear later if the claim has poor evidence or no evidence at all.

Also I really doubt the dev would ask the patch maker or the mod maker to stop doing them, why should they do that anyway? Best course of action is for any developer not having any interaction with patch makers that violate patreon TOS and rules, at least not related to those patch(es).

There is too much speculation (second claims as you mention) and the full stories not told by other developers that had their patreon nuked before, almost sure there was some kind of evidence, when there is smoke there is some fire for sure.

Anyway this topic get me really tired, we just go in circles about it and reaching nowhere and keeps being brought up no idea why and with what intentions, the supposed incest or landlady/roomate interactions are far from being the main focus of Ripples, not even the 2nd main or 3rd main focus.
 

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I don't believe patreon would nuke a creator based on assumptions since if they do that they can get also legal troubles later, there must be always some kind of strong enough evidence linking a patch maker to the creator of the content itself or like some games I played before that left code in the game to be activated with a patch (easily spotted with URM and I always use it) and some of those are still active on patreon anyway but it is still a "rookie" mistake.

For sure patreon monitors sites like this (not that Jestur should be worried about it since I never saw them interacting here since the first day I started following this thread) and the creators ways of communication/social media like Discord and alike, if they do that is too get evidence to avoid legal troubles that can appear later if the claim has poor evidence or no evidence at all.

Also I really doubt the dev would ask the patch maker or the mod maker to stop doing them, why should they do that anyway? Best course of action is for any developer not having any interaction with patch makers that violate patreon TOS and rules, at least not related to those patch(es).

There is too much speculation (second claims as you mention) and the full stories not told by other developers that had their patreon nuked before, almost sure there was some kind of evidence, when there is smoke there is some fire for sure.

Anyway this topic get me really tired, we just go in circles about it and reaching nowhere and keeps being brought up no idea why and with what intentions, the supposed incest or landlady/roomate interactions are far from being the main focus of Ripples, not even the 2nd main or 3rd main focus.

You're saying exactly what I was thinking. To me, this whole discussion feels like a non-issue, with too many hypothetical situations, mostly based on gossip or second-hand info that's often impossible to verify. We're drifting away from what this thread is really about, which is the game itself, not far-fetched scenarios that don’t actually concern us.


And honestly, if any of those situations were to happen, I trust the dev and the modder to handle it with common sense, and I’m sure Jestur would do whatever he can to protect his game from any potential backlash from Patreon.


With that in mind, I think it’s best we move on. I was already feeling a bit worn out by the idea of replying and keeping a debate going that doesn’t seem all that relevant. Like you said, we’d just end up going in circles. There’s probably more value in focusing on the game itself than in speculating about rumors, isolated cases involving other devs, or going through the same old Patreon debates that tend to all sound the same after a while.
 
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