VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[Daermon420]

I can't tell you what dictionary Patreon is using. But I have def heard of a cop trying to cause trouble for 2 people over 18 with no blood relation, because one of them was an ex step-parent of the other. And it was still technically incest wherever it happened (gotta protect those kids - even tho they're adult now - from step-parent predators, right?) I didn't follow the news on it, but it COULD have gone badly for them.

This is because in many places a step-relationship creates a legal binding just like an adoption. Plus even with the foster siblings situation I mentioned while legal most places a large age gap can muddy things, yes. Due to potential grooming of the younger one. Neither situation applies to Jessica and MC though since they're the same age or very close to it and Tiffany didn't marry his father.

 

[e6mill]

This is because in many places a step-relationship creates a legal binding just like an adoption. Plus even with the foster siblings situation I mentioned while legal most places a large age gap can muddy things, yes. Due to potential grooming of the younger one. Neither situation applies to Jessica and MC though since they're the same age or very close to it.

Right, so my point is complete bullshit and you should immediately have crazy orgies with all your step-siblings right in front of a cop no matter where you live, got it.

 

[Daermon420]

Right, so my point is complete bullshit and you should immediately have crazy orgies with all your step-siblings right in front of a cop no matter where you live, got it.

What are you even talking about? I literally said step-family can be considered incest in many places. I agreed with you on that lmao. Just that it doesn't apply to this game at all. Foster siblings are not the same thing as step-siblings.

 

[Maccabbee]

Patreon rules don't care about blood relationship. Even if Tiff isn't a blood parent, she raised the MC like a mother. Jessica isn't just a "roommate," she is like a sister because they grew up together since they were kids. Tiptoeing around the Patreon rules is just that, and doesn't mean anything for Patreon either, because they include these relationships in their rules, too.

The mod with the iPatch is the original relationships before the rules, and makes a lot more sense in-game.

 

[RandoCard3]

Honestly, I have no idea. I don’t think this specific change is currently on the devs’ roadmap. Some people in this thread have also said that the game was always designed with an incest-free approach and that it works perfectly fine without this patch. That said, I use the patch myself because I’ve always found that the story and dialogue work better with the patch integrated into the game. But of course, everyone’s free to do as they please.

I’m afraid that, for lack of a better option, you’ll have to make do with what’s currently available and choose between the two existing options : playing with or without the patch.

Do patches still affect the newer releases then? If so, I may actually switch over, but then I assume newer content will have less jarring dialogue so I may just not. I dunno.

I don't remember the exact wording but changing it from something about roommates to her being "almost like a sister" would make that conversation flow better I think, without breaking any Patreon rules.

Yeah, that'd do it for me.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Do patches still affect the newer releases then? If so, I may actually switch over, but then I assume newer content will have less jarring dialogue so I may just not. I dunno.

Yeah, that'd do it for me.

It depends on what we’re talking about, and honestly, I’m not entirely sure. The solo incest patch available in the OP is no longer supported. However, the multi-mod includes another one that apparently still is.

I believe the last time the dialogue changes significantly with Jessica is when the MC and she are watching an anime and discussing the 'sibling/roommate' relationships of the protagonists, if I remember correctly. Maybe it happens a little later with Jessica again, but I’m not certain.

To me, the most jarring moment remains that scene where the two of them watch an anime together. There aren’t many dialogues referencing this kind of thing for now anyway. Besides, this particular scene doesn’t make sense without the incest patch.

 

[MARK2TWEN]

It depends on what we’re talking about, and honestly, I’m not entirely sure. The solo incest patch available in the OP is no longer supported. However, the multi-mod includes another one that apparently still is.

I believe the last time the dialogue changes significantly with Jessica is when the MC and she are watching an anime and discussing the 'sibling/roommate' relationships of the protagonists, if I remember correctly. Maybe it happens a little later with Jessica again, but I’m not certain.

To me, the most jarring moment remains that scene where the two of them watch an anime together. There aren’t many dialogues referencing this kind of thing for now anyway. Besides, this particular scene doesn’t make sense without the incest patch.

Yeah, that scene in the anime is the only thing that's annoying without the patch. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't even remember that there was a patch. Everything else is fine. Somehow they missed that moment, it could have been handled differently.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Yeah, that scene in the anime is the only thing that's annoying without the patch. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't even remember that there was a patch. Everything else is fine. Somehow they missed that moment, it could have been handled differently.

From what I remember, there are very few moments where the dialogues mention that weird "roommate" thing (to avoid talking about incest) as something strange; I think briefly at the beginning with Tiffany/Jessica, that scene I mentioned in front of that anime, and maybe the photoshoot with Jessica, though I’m less sure about that one.

 

[alex13_zen]

Foster siblings who grew up together in the same household can legally get married in the vast majority of the US. And that's essentially what Jessica and the MC are in game without the patch. Unless it's mentioned somewhere that Tiffany legally adopted him, but I don't recall that.

Adoption on the other hand creates a legally binding familial relationship and that can and is considered incest in many places.

I'm not sure if it's ever clearly stated whether the MC was legally adopted by Tiffany or not. In my country, France, I know that adoption and family relationships formed through a parent's marriage prohibit unions between members of the two joined families (such as between stepparents and stepchildren). Only a few exceptions, I believe, have ever been granted, typically through a presidential authorization (only in the event of the death of the parent who established the alliance) or a court decision.

At game-start, it says "You were adopted by Tiffany". If it weren't an actual adoption I think it would simply say "You were taken in" or "you were raised".

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

At game-start, it says "You were adopted by Tiffany". If it weren't an actual adoption I think it would simply say "You were taken in" or "you were raised".

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I honestly forgot. I can't remember everything, sorry. ^^ I also play a lot of other games besides Ripples. But thanks for the info, now we know it's definitely the case.

But is it really legally adopted, or more like just taken in at home ? Sometimes the same word might be used even if it doesn’t mean exactly the same thing. Anyway, it’s just a detail here. I don't think the game brings it up again later. Also, I play with multimod, so I can’t be sure about that detail.

 

[housekinokuni1974]

Like i said in my last post i rerun the game, always a bliss and i may say on the lewd scenes sometimes its like Jestur knows precisely what you would expect and seeing that given to you in a scene is a superb feeling.
Sorry for my bad english, im just a french guy

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Like i said in my last post i rerun the game, always a bliss and i may say on the lewd scenes sometimes its like Jestur knows precisely what you would expect and seeing that given to you in a scene is a superb feeling.
Sorry for my bad english, im just a french guy

Hey there, fellow countryman ! Have a great time here !

 

[MeltingTeapot]

good game

 

[tortorus]

So year update to this one too...?

 

[mike12013]

So year update to this one too...?

The new update will be out in a few weeks most likely, so not quite a year

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

The new update will be out in a few weeks most likely, so not quite a year

he meant, that we waited a year for this update.

 

[mike12013]

he meant, that we waited a year for this update.

No i know, it'll end up being 9-10 months more than likely.

It is what it is, quality takes time, I knew that then I started working on a VN myself.

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renders alone took me an entire day to pose, that's without writing, implementing it or post processing. Rendering alone took like six hours and that's on a 4080 Super with a 7800x3D. There's a reason I abandoned it, after writing 40k odd words lmao

If its a high quality VN, then I just kinda expect a year (or close to it) turnaround

 

[xkevlarex]

No i know, it'll end up being 9-10 months more than likely.

It is what it is, quality takes time, I knew that then I started working on a VN myself.

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renders alone took me an entire day to pose, that's without writing, implementing it or post processing. Rendering alone took like six hours and that's on a 4080 Super with a 7800x3D. There's a reason I abandoned it, after writing 40k odd words lmao

If its a high quality VN, then I just kinda expect a year (or close to it) turnaround

Yeah, because its so necessary to make 4k images in VNs, especially when real quality ends somewhere near 720p because of engine limitations, and if you dont put really great amount of effort, difference between 720 and 4k will be only in "garbage" upscale pixels. I could make 96*96 logo into 8k png image, but should I?

 

[mike12013]

Yeah, because its so necessary to make 4k images in VNs, especially when real quality ends somewhere near 720p because of engine limitations, and if you dont put really great amount of effort, difference between 720 and 4k will be only in "garbage" upscale pixels. I could make 96*96 logo into 8k png image, but should I?

Rendering at 4k then downsampling to 1080p is the standard, for Daz anyway, not sure about HS. Rendering at 4k reduces Aliasing (Jagged edges), brings through details such as skin pores and hair strands and these details are retained when downsampling. Due to it being rendered at a higher resolution, it allows shadows to have a higher fidelity and reduces the amount of work the denoiser has to do.

Which is mute, because as my post said, I spent all day posing the shots, not rendering. It rendered overnight while I slept, the physical act of setting up the environments, sorting the materials, lighting, camera settings are what took the majority of the time, and thats without even going into branching, or animations or anything of that matter. The thing that caused me to stop wasn't render times, it was I didn't have time to commit to spending days posing, and I just heavily dislike Daz's workflow/navigation.

To bring it back on topic to Ripples, the VN is written better than anything I could've done, with a million more Renders than i'd ever have to do with a million more animations. I don't know Jestur's workflow, he could render machines pumping out renders, but for me anyway, the rendering wasn't the bottleneck.

And for the sake of argument, zoom in to see the details

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[SoraBlack]

No i know, it'll end up being 9-10 months more than likely.

It is what it is, quality takes time, I knew that then I started working on a VN myself.

You must be registered to see the links

renders alone took me an entire day to pose, that's without writing, implementing it or post processing. Rendering alone took like six hours and that's on a 4080 Super with a 7800x3D. There's a reason I abandoned it, after writing 40k odd words lmao

If its a high quality VN, then I just kinda expect a year (or close to it) turnaround

Two questions about the rendering:
What resolution?
and
6h per Render or for all renders?

EDIT:
I shouldve read the other replies too lmao.
Question 2 still stands tho