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I guess so for what I read before in this thread, I use URM and the multi mod that enables both paths so I only have 1 playthrough.
I'm surprised you’re using both the multimod and URM at the same time. I usually avoid mixing too many mods together just to be safe. ^^ But URM is definitely the best alternative out there when there aren’t any good mods for a game or while waiting for an update.

Here's my obligatory "except MC is likely his own dad, so it's not NTR" post.

I don’t believe the dev intends to include any NTR content in the game at this point. If that were the plan, it likely would have been mentioned much earlier, in my opinion. Not that I have any issue with that type of content; everyone has the freedom to enjoy what they like, but I’m not interested in stirring up unnecessary drama. :D Too many threads already derail over endless debates like that ! xD


I also think the story could have explored the MC discovering through time travel that he is his own father or responsible for certain events in his present, such as possibly being the father of several of the girls. However, given Patreon’s rules and the logical improbability of such scenarios under the current circumstances, this seems unlikely to happen.


Even though I have some doubts regarding Skylar on that last point, I wouldn’t bet on it too much and I suppose it’s probably something else, more likely.


Moreover, at this stage, the MC can only travel back to a very specific and limited time period which naturally restricts the range of possibilities. It remains to be seen whether the choices the MC makes during these time travels will have a meaningful impact on the present.
 

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I'm surprised you’re using both the multimod and URM at the same time. I usually avoid mixing too many mods together just to be safe. ^^ But URM is definitely the best alternative out there when there aren’t any good mods for a game or while waiting for an update.
Yes, never had any issues in the few games I use both, the multi mod makes me use less URM features and that way save time but any multi mod or author mods for a particular game are always limited on what they can do and in those little details enters URM, I was always curious on what is "under the hood" of this renpy games. It helps that I save a lot, it is always a good measure in games under development.

Said this plenty of times, I guess I'm a bit of control freak and I prefer to know what the choices entail, and of course don't mind the little and sometimes major spoilers it gives. The games that have PDF walkthroughs specially the ones Mr Bubu work on I also use them and they have one for Ripples, I even use screenshots of it plenty of times when someone needs help on a particular path (not so much in Ripples since it a bit more straightforward). It is easier to help others with a visual aid being a screenshot of the PDF WT or ingame with URM features open showing it.
 

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Yes, never had any issues in the few games I use both, the multi mod makes me use less URM features and that way save time but any multi mod or author mods for a particular game are always limited on what they can do and in those little details enters URM, I was always curious on what is "under the hood" of this renpy games. It helps that I save a lot, it is always a good measure in games under development.

Said this plenty of times, I guess I'm a bit of control freak and I prefer to know what the choices entail, and of course don't mind the little and sometimes major spoilers it gives. The games that have PDF walkthroughs specially the ones Mr Bubu work on I also use them and they have one for Ripples, I even use screenshots of it plenty of times when someone needs help on a particular path (not so much in Ripples since it a bit more straightforward). It is easier to help others with a visual aid being a screenshot of the PDF WT or ingame with URM features open showing it.
I like URM too, that's how I saw the dev created a variable called pineapplepizzaisfuckingdeliciousandyouareamanofexquisitetasteandculturecheers :LOL:

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Hahaha that is hilarious, I guess I missed that one since I despise pineapple on pizza, well anything too acid together with bread/pasta. Thanks for notice and post for us :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :LOL:.
Wasn’t there a point gained if you said pineapple pizza was good or something like that ? ^^ I think I refused to say that pineapple pizza was acceptable. There’s just no way I could say something like that. Only barbarians would do such a thing to their pizza. :)
 

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Do we know if the dev is planning to go back and touch up some of the earlier dialogue? Jessica talking about relationships between roommates as if it's some kind of taboo comes off as incredibly stupid. They're not supporting an incest patch, right, even unofficially? So I'd rather they just reworked some of the dialogue to fix the remaining wonkiness.
 
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Do we know if the dev is planning to go back and touch up some of the earlier dialogue? Jessica talking about relationships between roommates as if it's some kind of taboo comes off as incredibly stupid. They're not supporting an incest patch, right, even unofficially? So I'd rather they just reworked some of the dialogue to fix the remaining wonkiness.
In case you missed it, there's an incest patch for the game in the OP of the thread. And no, the game's dev doesn't support any patch like that, and it's very unlikely they ever will because of Patreon's TOS. So if you're only interested in the official version from the dev, you'll have to settle for the roommates relationships, or check out the patch. ^^

You should know how things work with Patreon by now. :)
 
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In case you missed it, there's an incest patch for the game in the OP of the thread. And no, the game's dev doesn't support any patch like that, and it's very unlikely they ever will because of Patreon's TOS. So if you're only interested in the official version from the dev, you'll have to settle for the roommates relationships, or check out the patch. ^^

You should know how things work with Patreon by now. :)
I know, but that's not what I meant. I meant, are they going to tweak the dialogue so it feels more natural. I can take or leave the incest. I just want whatever dialogue feels more natural.
 
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I know, but that's not what I meant. I meant, are they going to tweak the dialogue so it feels more natural. I can take or leave the incest. I just want whatever dialogue feels more natural.
Honestly, I have no idea. I don’t think this specific change is currently on the devs’ roadmap. Some people in this thread have also said that the game was always designed with an incest-free approach and that it works perfectly fine without this patch. That said, I use the patch myself because I’ve always found that the story and dialogue work better with the patch integrated into the game. But of course, everyone’s free to do as they please.

I’m afraid that, for lack of a better option, you’ll have to make do with what’s currently available and choose between the two existing options : playing with or without the patch.
 
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Do we know if the dev is planning to go back and touch up some of the earlier dialogue? Jessica talking about relationships between roommates as if it's some kind of taboo comes off as incredibly stupid. They're not supporting an incest patch, right, even unofficially? So I'd rather they just reworked some of the dialogue to fix the remaining wonkiness.
This is the one conversation in the game where I thought the dialog was a bit off as far as the relationships go without the patch. And even then it's really a minor nitpick. Even with them not being blood related I could see the situation being awkward since they were raised together in the same house.

I don't remember the exact wording but changing it from something about roommates to her being "almost like a sister" would make that conversation flow better I think, without breaking any Patreon rules.
 
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This is the one conversation in the game where I thought the dialog was a bit off as far as the relationships go without the patch. And even then it's really a minor nitpick. Even with them not being blood related I could see the situation being awkward since they were raised together in the same house.

I don't remember the exact wording but changing it from something about roommates to her being "almost like a sister" would make that conversation flow better I think, without breaking any Patreon rules.
Does Patreon censor "almost-incest" relationships between fictional characters ? ^^ It seems like anything absurd goes with them after all ! x) I’m pretty sure the word "sister" is banned, no matter the situation, even if it’s completely innocent or platonic, in this type of game on Patreon.
 
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Does Patreon censor "almost-incest" relationships between fictional characters ? ^^ It seems like anything goes with them, after all ! x)
You know I'm not sure exactly on the rules to be honest. But as far as I'm aware they don't want anything that could be considered illegal sexual content. And having sex with someone you consider to be like a sibling when they aren't in any real sense legally or by blood, isn't incest from a legal standpoint.
 

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having sex with someone you consider to be like a sibling when they aren't in any real sense legally or by blood, isn't incest from a legal standpoint.
I wouldn't count on that. Especially if there's much of an age difference. It's going to depend on local law, the cop, the DA, and the judge.
 
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You know I'm not sure exactly on the rules to be honest. But as far as I'm aware they don't want anything that could be considered illegal sexual content. And having sex with someone you consider to be like a sibling when they aren't in any real sense legally or by blood, isn't incest from a legal standpoint.
Maybe it’s true, but I figure most devs just go with the whole landlady/roommate setup in their games to avoid any hassle. It’s just more convenient that way.

I wouldn't count on that. Especially if there's much of an age difference. It's going to depend on local law, the cop, the DA, and the judge.
I was going to mention that possibility too, but since I’m not a legal expert, I held back. Thanks for bringing it up. I’m thinking of a certain game on F95 related to one of the things you mentioned, something involving a legal case and a police officer portrayed as especially nitpicky. ^^
 
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I wouldn't count on that. Especially if there's much of an age difference. It's going to depend on local law, the cop, the DA, and the judge.
Foster siblings who grew up together in the same household can legally get married in the vast majority of the US. And that's essentially what Jessica and the MC are in game without the patch. Unless it's mentioned somewhere that Tiffany legally adopted him, but I don't recall that.

Adoption on the other hand creates a legally binding familial relationship and that can and is considered incest in many places.
 

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Foster siblings who grew up together in the same household can legally get married in the vast majority of the US. And that's essentially what Jessica and the MC are in game without the patch. Unless it's mentioned somewhere that Tiffany legally adopted him, but I don't recall that.

Adoption on the other hand creates a legally binding familial relationship and that can and is considered incest in many places.
I'm not sure if it's ever clearly stated whether the MC was legally adopted by Tiffany or not. In my country, France, I know that adoption and family relationships formed through a parent's marriage prohibit unions between members of the two joined families (such as between stepparents and stepchildren). Only a few exceptions, I believe, have ever been granted, typically through a presidential authorization (only in the event of the death of the parent who established the alliance) or a court decision.
 
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Foster siblings who grew up together in the same household can legally get married in the vast majority of the US.
Didn't say otherwise. But majority is not all. Check your local laws if you have any such plans or you could wind up sorry and sore (in prison).
 

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Didn't say otherwise. But majority is not all. Check your local laws if you have any such plans or you could wind up sorry and sore (in prison).
Yeah but we're talking about the payment processors and Patreon cracking down here. Technically there are many places here where sodomy is considered illegal. But you won't see them cracking down on oral or anal sex content because it's illegal in a few places. Only stuff that's likely to get them in hot water on a widespread level.

If they had to conform to the local laws of every single city/town/state for every game there'd be no legal porn games at all :ROFLMAO:
 
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I can't tell you what dictionary Patreon is using. But I have def heard of a cop trying to cause trouble for 2 people over 18 with no blood relation, because one of them was an ex step-parent of the other. And it was still technically incest wherever it happened (gotta protect those kids - even tho they're adult now - from step-parent predators, right?) I didn't follow the news on it, but it COULD have gone badly for them.
 
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