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danb35

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it seems kind of ridiculous how easy Jenny not only believes you when you tell her the truth
  • Jenny's fallen hard for MC, which is going to make her inclined to believe him.
  • She's smart and attentive enough to realize his story doesn't add up, and presumably that applies when he is telling the truth.
    • Specifically, she's upset that "it's the only time you're not sincere with me." If she's paying enough attention to MC to tell when he's sincere and when he's not, she'll know he is now.
  • She knows there's a lot of shady stuff going on at the power plant anyway
  • She has to know that Cindy's arrival and everything that happened with it is completely disproportionate to "unauthorized party at her house." She's hiding in the woods, ffs.
  • If anything, the outlandishness of MC's story could make it more believable--it justifies MC's presumed belief that "I can't tell her the truth; she'd never believe it."
You still need a healthy dose of suspension of disbelief, but if any of the 1999 LIs would understand and believe MC, it would be Jenny.
also is just completely fine with you being her nephew?
You play with the patch, you're going to get what you're going to get. And even if that was the original plan (i.e., that MC is Tiffany's son/Jenny's nephew), the dialogue surrounding that "restored" relationship is pure fanfiction. I also played through this update with the patch, and also found that dialogue over-the-top, but I'm not going to blame Jestur for dialogue he didn't write.

On the "this whole update just for one party?" issue:
  • Several folks upthread have mentioned this is a farewell to 1999. I hope that isn't true, mostly for Jenny's sake (I'm sure it's obvious that I'm very fond of her), also for Luna's and Scarlett's, but I can't deny it feels that way. So let's send it out with a bang, I guess.
  • While there isn't a lot of plot development, there's quite a bit of relationship development. As one who seems to be really into the relationship piece (which is a big part of why I've fallen for Jenny), that seems worthwhile to me.
  • The plot point that does come out--that Cindy's fully aware of what's going on at the plant--is kind of a big one, isn't it?
 
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the dialogue surrounding that "restored" relationship is pure fanfiction. I also played through this update with the patch, and also found that dialogue over-the-top, but I'm not going to blame Jestur for that.
Thanks, just exactly what I thought when saw that critic lol if they have that complaint then better they go to LightmanP mod thread and complain there, because the I patch is written/adapted by them, at least since the original patch was "discontinued".

Maybe they can help him write a better version of the patch lol For sure LightmanP needs and will be glad for the help because they are good coders but doesn't mean they are or ever will be good porn writers and make it sexier and "natural" hehe.
 
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It might also be a factor for me that I hadn't played through 0.7 with the i-patch, so seeing that dialogue in 0.8 was a little jarring. That's entirely my own fault; I decided to install the patch. But if I'd played through, start to (current) finish, with that installed, it might fit a bit better for me.

IMO, "Jenny's just so into MC that once she finds out he's her nephew, she just doesn't care" is probably the most plausible way to address this. The dialogue during the scene (the variations on "us being related just makes it hotter") takes it too far for her character, IMO. It would probably fit for Khloe, and definitely for Riley, though MC isn't related to either of them.
 
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While I really like these flashbacks, I think that instead of spending long periods in 99, Jestur must be planning to use timeskips; The MC and Darci will continue to return to the past, but we players won't participate unless we have an important mission, and I don't think they still have anything to do in the past, right?

I also think this is a "farewell" to the past; the relationships should develop in the present, with the girls he knew in the past, like Scarlett.
It will be difficult to fool Scarlett; she's already quite suspicious, now the MC will return with his hair cut by her, something she'll definitely remembre, we know she and Tiffany will meet, maybe she can't resist visiting the MC's room and ends up finding the painting she gave him, anyway, I, at least, hope their relationship continues in the present.

And I think MC and Darci will get some answers from the group controlling the time machine, which I believe Jenny is a part of, something that will happen after MC's revelation.

There's nothing important for them to do in the past now that they've saved Tiffany, Jenny, and Gabby, but there's plenty to do in the present.
 

danb35

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It will be difficult to fool Scarlett; she's already quite suspicious
She has the picture of the two of them together; I doubt the haircut will add anything (or at least much) to her suspicion, because if she has half a brain (and I haven't seen any indication she doesn't), that suspicion should be approaching certainty already. The only problem (to the extent it is or will be a problem) with her understanding it is the general impossibility of time travel.
the group controlling the time machine, which I believe Jenny is a part of
Interesting. I think I like that theory better than the "Jackie is secretly Jenny" one, even if that seems to fit. Mainly because it means I get to see Jenny as Jenny again.
There's nothing important for them to do in the past now that they've saved Tiffany, Jenny, and Gabby
Have they saved Jenny? Sure, now she knows why MC's been telling her not to work at the plant, and she believes him. Does she do it anyway, in hopes of stopping the disaster? Or for some other reason? I expect we'll find out early the next update.

And I don't know--is "saving MC's dad" on the radar? That'd still be something to do in the past, right?
 

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I think Jenny imagination has gone wild, while mc spend time in the present. That's why she's not shocked even when she heard mc is her nephew.
 

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I don't get it, there is an anal tag, but I didn't see any scenes with it. Or am I blind?
You have to do a threesome with Scarlett and Valerie, and when they searching the closet Scarlett finds something (think it's a buttplug) and they comment about anal and you should say you're interested or something like that, then during the sex scene you choose anal with Scarlett :sneaky:, at least that was how it went for me :unsure:
 
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You still need a healthy dose of suspension of disbelief, but if any of the 1999 LIs would understand and believe MC, it would be Jenny.
When I think about it, I think what felt whiplashy wasn't necessarily Jenny believing you so fast, but it feeling too fast right after the party which had hours and hours of gameplay/reading.

the dialogue surrounding that "restored" relationship is pure fanfiction. I also played through this update with the patch, and also found that dialogue over-the-top, but I'm not going to blame Jestur for dialogue he didn't write.
You know what you guys are right and that's fair. I'm really curious now though, what the "real" dialogue is
 

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This is one of the best games in this site without a doubt. The animations are always are really good, the characters look great, and the most important thing the writing is always on point and interesting.

With that said I wonder if I'm the only one disappointed a little bit? By how little the story moved. Generally I am not one to care much which character gets more attention than others specially in games where all the characters seem cool (although from reading the thread I did go back and notice some of the characters seem to be moving a lot slower than others) but the update felt like 80% fan service with the party and then 20% actual plot, which not very gracefully brings me to my next point is plot wise it seems kind of ridiculous how easy Jenny not only believes you when you tell her the truth, but also is just completely fine with you being her nephew?? I understand that "officially" you're not related but to me that's obviously 100% patreon things, and it's kind of weird how she goes from really wholesome but in secret really horny to in the next scene being like "you being my nephew makes this hotter" that really threw me off.

I'm sure it's not the most popular opinion but I really would've been fine with the story moving further at the expense of some of the party scene (with that said Vanessa was my favorite character introduced in the update and I don't really know why) and she probably would've had no scene in that universe
I hear you. I was surprised with the whole scene with Jenny. Personally, I hated the whole party thing. First of all, AVNs should not be allowed to have scenes where people play truth or dare or some variation anymore. FFS it's in every AVN, but even if I forgave that, the party scene just went on and on and on and on and on... Can we get back to story? Then it had to end with the MC doing the helicopter with his cock. I mean, seriously... I thought this AVN was above all of this childish BS. It's like a new writer showed up or something and we were stuck with something a 16 year old would enjoy.

This AVN is easily in my top 5 AVNS, but this update was just cringy.
 

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Can we get back to story?
Getting background on the mothers/older adults IS part of the story.

It informs the interactions in the future and helps explain why certain things played out in the future (Luna's reaction to MC, Scarlett looking at the old picture and seeing the resemblance, etc.) and things like the party are a way to show how those things occurred. Would be pretty damned boring if all of the interactions happened at the diner. It's also character building - yes, those characters are 20 years younger, but didn't your 20s impact how you became in your 40s - or if you're still in your 20s, don't you think your "now" will inform your "then"?

You have to go to the past and figure things out from both directions, and it would be damned boring if everything in the past was at the plant, the diner or skulking around in the woods.

As for "truth or dare", it's a trope in these VNs because it's a trope in real life - truth or dare and spin the bottle are two of the big ways many guys back then, and even still today, saw actual boobs not in a magazine or on a computer screen for the first time, so it's a natural way to show "barely 18" characters doing it in VNs.
 
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Getting background on the mothers/older adults IS part of the story.

It informs the interactions in the future and helps explain why certain things played out in the future (Luna's reaction to MC, Scarlett looking at the old picture and seeing the resemblance, etc.) and things like the party are a way to show how those things occurred. Would be pretty damned boring if all of the interactions happened at the diner. It's also character building - yes, those characters are 20 years younger, but didn't your 20s impact how you became in your 40s - or if you're still in your 20s, don't you thing your "now" will inform your "then"?

You have to go to the past and figure things out from both directions, and it would be damned boring if everything in the past was at the plant, the diner or skulking around in the woods.

As for "truth or dare", it's a trope in these VNs because it's a trope in real life - truth or dare and spin the bottle are two of the big ways many guys back then, and even still today, saw actual boobs not in a magazine or on a computer screen for the first time, so it's a natural way to show "barely 18" characters doing it in VNs.
I don't want to get into a flame war here. I was just sharing my opinion, and in my opinion, Truth or Dare is a cliche. Besides, there has to be a better way to get the backstories than the never ending party and a helicopter cock. I just expected better than this from a dev who has produced a real gem in an ocean of shitty AVNs. Instead of continuing their creative and original story, IMO they mailed it in and picked a cliched and over used Truth or Dare game.
 
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