VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[Daermon420]

Might not be the utmost authority, but Microsoft Copilot says about two full sleeves that "Very intensive clients sometimes finish in 6–8 days of back-to-back appointments, but this demands high pain tolerance and carries risk of 'tattoo flu'".

More importantly: if Skylar had access to a more advanced time machine, why did she not return just a day after leaving, so that she wouldn't get in trouble at her job and her mom wouldn't worry for longer?

I'd take any information given by an ai chatbot with a handful of salt with how often they're wrong because of "hallucinations". But even if Skylar could withstand getting her sleeves done in that timeframe, and the artist was willing to do that, it'd still take a long time for them to fully heal. And they show no sign of being very fresh when we see her. New tats are pretty obvious because of the inflammation, especially very large tats like those sleeves.

 

[Maccabbee]

I'd take any information given by an ai chatbot with a handful of salt with how often they're wrong because of "hallucinations". But even if Skylar could withstand getting her sleeves done in that timeframe, and the artist was willing to do that, it'd still take a long time for them to fully heal. And they show no sign of being very fresh when we see her. New tats are pretty obvious because of the inflammation, especially very large tats like those sleeves.

She's a skatergirl in training, she's used to pain. Also, I've know people who got sleeves in two weeks.

 

[Daermon420]

She's a skatergirl in training, she's used to pain. Also, I've know people who got sleeves in two weeks.

Yeah, but she wasn't gone 2 weeks. And there's still the healing time after to consider. No matter how high your pain tolerance, getting that much ink that quickly is going to take time to recover from. In game it doesn't give a specific timeframe that she's gone, it only says she's been gone "days" before she shows back up. But that doesn't sound like long, perhaps not even a full week.

 

[alex13_zen]

Yeah, but she wasn't gone 2 weeks. And there's still the healing time after to consider. No matter how high your pain tolerance, getting that much ink that quickly is going to take time to recover from.

Why didn't she return sooner then, just because it would have been harder to explain the tattoos? Her mom was really worried for a week, and she surely knew she'd get fired. Yeah, she did get her job back but she didn't know that would happen, and she was working so that her mom could get out of debt.

 

[Daermon420]

Why didn't she return sooner then, just because it would have been harder to explain the tattoos? Her mom was really worried for a week, and she surely knew she'd get fired. Yeah, she did get her job back but she didn't know that would happen, and she was working so that her mom could get out of debt.

Who knows why she didn't just come back to the instant after she left. Perhaps to make it slightly less obvious something was really fucking weird with her instantly having full sleeves out of nowhere. But she couldn't stay missing too long, she probably didn't want to worry her mom and the MC too much. So staying missing for a realistic timeframe for those sleeves to make sense was sort of off the table. So maybe she just came back to a point where the sleeves were questionable but hoped nobody would think too hard on the situation, instead of it being completely obvious something was up.

It's also possible that it's a similar type of time travel to what the MC uses, but they've found a way to change the ratio of time passing. Say, instead of 1 to 1 like the MC, it could be 1 day missing for every 4 in the other time period. If so, she couldn't choose when exactly to come back to, same as the MC.

 

[Meiri]

Why didn't she return sooner then, just because it would have been harder to explain the tattoos? Her mom was really worried for a week, and she surely knew she'd get fired. Yeah, she did get her job back but she didn't know that would happen, and she was working so that her mom could get out of debt.

I don't think she went willingly if we go by the message she sent initially + we don't really know if she was sent there by the "good" guys or the other party going against us.

 

[Daermon420]

I don't think she went willingly if we go by the message she sent initially + we don't really know if she was sent there by the "good" guys or the other party going against us.

This is a good point I didn't even consider. And makes me think of the time Riley ambushed the principal spying on the MC for the bad guys in the bushes. She says something along the lines of "This is for what you did to that girl the other day!" before giving him another whack with the bat. She could have been referencing them kidnapping Skylar and doing something to her, similar to what they were doing with Darcis mom in '99.

The bad guys might have a slightly different form of time travel they use than the MC, and it could explain the differences.

 

[JJ1960]

She's a skatergirl in training, she's used to pain. Also, I've know people who got sleeves in two weeks.

Duh, the answer is simple. They had this technology in 1999:

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She was gone the week because it took that long to keep working up enough saliva to cover both arms.

 

[Derek in a Bush]

Plus I believe Luna mentions at some point she has a photographic memory and never forgets a face. So unlike the other women who'd only have a vague recollection of what the MC looks like after 20 years, she may have noticed he doesn't just look like and remind her of the guy from '99. She may have noticed he looks exactly like the guy from '99.

I’m seeing this just now and think your 100% correct

 

[Maccabbee]

I believe Luna mentions at some point she has a photographic memory and never forgets a face. So unlike the other women who'd only have a vague recollection of what the MC looks like after 20 years, she may have noticed he doesn't just look like and remind her of the guy from '99. She may have noticed he looks exactly like the guy from '99.

I’m seeing this just now and think your 100% correct

And, again, she also knows his real name. Only Jenny and Luna do. That's gonna make it conclusive to her, and explains her reaction to finding him dating Skylar.

 

[Daermon420]

And, again, she also knows his real name. Only Jenny and Luna do. That's gonna make it conclusive to her, and explains her reaction to finding him dating Skylar.

Him dating Skylar plus what happened toward the end of the recent update, yep. Explains that look and her reaction to the MC in '19 pretty well.

 

[Pax Draconis]

Spoiler: Skylars sleeves

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The original rift worked like that yes (20 year difference completely synchronated), but remember the current one the MC and Darci used this last time (Beginning of Episode 7) was through that Time Agency type building where they could set the date they went back, remember?

 

[Maccabbee]

Him dating Skylar plus what happened toward the end of the recent update, yep. Explains that look and her reaction to the MC in '19 pretty well.

Even if she still likes him, she knows that he's "trouble" and doesn't want Skylar involved (even if she's not his, and she isn't).

 

[Pax Draconis]

Even if she still likes him, she knows that he's "trouble" and doesn't want Skylar involved (even if she's not his, and she isn't).

Spoiler: Stupid Theory with no basis in fact,

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[Daermon420]

The original rift worked like that yes (20 year difference completely synchronated), but remember the current one the MC and Darci used this last time (Beginning of Episode 7) was through that Time Agency type building where they could set the date they went back, remember?

True, MC and Darci haven't come back to their own time since using that new equipment for the first time. So we don't really know yet if they'll come back and find the same amount of time passed that they were gone like before.

 

[Maccabbee]

True, MC and Darci haven't come back to their own time since using that new equipment for the first time. So we don't really know yet if they'll come back and find the same amount of time passed that they were gone like before.

What do you think about my "immutable time stream" theory? I still think nothing can change, and that the two sides don't understand that, or don't want to risk it.

 

[Daermon420]

What do you think about my "immutable time stream" theory? I still think nothing can change, and that the two sides don't understand that, or don't want to risk it.

It's definitely possible that you're right and major events can't be changed. The only hint we have that some things might be able to be changed is the brief time Krystals name changed if you didn't give that pendant to Khloe. I believe the masked man mentions observing small changes at one point as well, but saying large changes seemed impossible, or very difficult to pull off.

The sides can't change large events but are trying to make small changes that do seem to be possible. Perhaps hoping all the small ripples will combine to change something big, since they can't directly change anything major. Sort of like a rogue wave, where lots of small waves if they sync up just right can form a massive one. The very name of the game itself might be alluding to this, Ripples.

 

[Pax Draconis]

What do you think about my "immutable time stream" theory? I still think nothing can change, and that the two sides don't understand that, or don't want to risk it.

Well with the crystal thing, that is a change, Because if you give the necklace to Khloe instead of Scarlett then you get dialogue from Darci and Krystal that explains why Krystal is a 'hotdog fucker.' Whereas if you give it to Scarlett, you get the 'Kira' scene instead and in Episode 3 after Darci explains that she was trolling you and that Kira was Krystal's middle name the MC (let's just call him Jack, it's the default anyway) states that he vaguely recalls Krystal's middle name being something else. Also the masked guy(I'm going to call him 'Old Jack' because I'm pretty certain he is Jack in the future) states that he wants to look at things from the outside because he noticed small changes Like Daermon said.

However, what does support your theory is that Tiffany mentioned to Valerie that she remembered a guy who looked like Jack saving her in 1999 before that happened in Jack's personal timeline.

 

[DaFinker]

I haven't played the latest update yet. I will work on updating my post after my blind run.

I found the first one easily enough based on the hint, but I'm wondering if there's the same old problem with the Mod again - seems the next couple should have been triggered already based on the hints, but maybe not. Finally got to go back to my Episode 5 endpoint save and organically collect the Tiffany and Dani Episode 6 hiddens. Before that it was the Episode 5 Shelby hidden. Not sure why there always seems to be a problem with this.

 

[SteveyP]

I found the first one easily enough based on the hint, but I'm wondering if there's the same old problem with the Mod again - seems the next couple should have been triggered already based on the hints, but maybe not. Finally got to go back to my Episode 5 endpoint save and organically collect the Tiffany and Dani Episode 6 hiddens. Before that it was the Episode 5 Shelby hidden. Not sure why there always seems to be a problem with this.

Unfortunately, I'm not savvy enough to answer that for you. The best I can do for you is tell you to download a clean build and try again.