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Anatomy lesson ? Why would bother the people ? Or do you mean they will fuck ?
Sounds like game many couples in the game. I see why people wont like it. Same multiple Protagonists in games. People dont like see others romance or sex.
So Kanae + Ichiro and Katsuo + Stella became a couple in future ? I understand why people may be pissed.

Mixed feelings tbh because I play game is MC focus and I like but then I hear its multiple couples. :WaitWhat:
I like the steal part. Stealing other girls is always kimochiiiiiiiii :devilish:
You thought about that ? Like when couples have sex girl is distastified ? Trick I see many times in Adult toons in story opening of couple sex so people keep coming back when MC shines when he steal her.

I see many people feel bad because other people have sex but I think they wont feel bad with this trick:
When Katsuo gives head to Stella, Stella thinks his Dick small but saw MC taking piss and thinking "Woah, this big dick! Better then my Boyfriends!"
Or when Kanae have first sex with Ichiro she is happy emotionally but not statisfied because he bad in sex. She think "Im happy but why its still im horny?"

You see, people not really angry that other people have sex but feel bad because they outshine MC. If a couple have sex but story says they doing bad so MC will steal, people would at least come back to try again.
I think with that people who hated this game perhaps will come back and give it another try.
Yeah just thinking I should start with the basics. Anatomy lesson. Move on to bigger things next. Never thought ppl would like kanae that much lol. Essentially the two have to be a thing because its sets up something that happens to ichiro later in the story. Kinda hard to get into it. It's all spoilers. Stella and Katsuo are a thing, but she definitely gets dissatisfied with him later. The majority of the girls are going to end up with the MC at the end though. Minus the ones you lose along the way. Mei Rin and Yumi are the main LI's so those three will probably be hovering around him the majority of the game.
 

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Anatomy lesson ? Why would bother the people ? Or do you mean they will fuck ?
Sounds like game many couples in the game. I see why people wont like it. Same multiple Protagonists in games. People dont like see others romance or sex.
So Kanae + Ichiro and Katsuo + Stella became a couple in future ? I understand why people may be pissed.

Mixed feelings tbh because I play game is MC focus and I like but then I hear its multiple couples. :WaitWhat:
I like the steal part. Stealing other girls is always kimochiiiiiiiii :devilish:
You thought about that ? Like when couples have sex girl is distastified ? Trick I see many times in Adult toons in story opening of couple sex so people keep coming back when MC shines when he steal her.

I see many people feel bad because other people have sex but I think they wont feel bad with this trick:
When Katsuo gives head to Stella, Stella thinks his Dick small but saw MC taking piss and thinking "Woah, this big dick! Better then my Boyfriends!"
Or when Kanae have first sex with Ichiro she is happy emotionally but not statisfied because he bad in sex. She think "Im happy but why its still im horny?"

You see, people not really angry that other people have sex but feel bad because they outshine MC. If a couple have sex but story says they doing bad so MC will steal, people would at least come back to try again.
I think with that people who hated this game perhaps will come back and give it another try.
Mh... I think you onto something here.
Dont ge me wrong, I think I understand what you want to say but your english is a bit bumpy.
So If I understand it correctly, you think that since the game will have different people having sex but people will jump ship from the beginning, but if its portrayed in a good way, aka the girls who are fucking their BF/Husbands are weak/incapable doing their manly part and implied that MC will steal her away, these negative feelings will be less present and perhaps even encourage people to give it another try ?

Well...yes and no. I saw this method being tried out in Porn games, mostly VN, but sadly they didnt deliver. Last game I rememeber who tried it was Twin Maniax but failed miserably with it because MC was just wachting like a beta and the girls enjoyed being fucked by the others. IMO this was the last straw people jumped ship.

However:
You mention Adult toons, I see this done perfectly in Manhwas, even Harem manhwas too. If I could give a good example is "Sextudy Group"(Still ongoing), "She is Working Out" (Still ongoing) and a Doujinshi called "Sex Friend" by Makino Eki which has already 4 volumes and.

While Sextudy Group is the best example I still want to give some more examples how things could go because like in She is Working Out its not clear where it will go and Sex Friend is similar.
Giving examples here for every each would take to much time so I will go with She is Working Out because while not being the best example, I think it could be used as one if implimented correctly.

Well, what can I say about this red head in that toon ?
She is a side Character, probably a Harem member too BUT not only has she already a BF, she already had 2 sex scenes. Why is it not being hated ?
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So what can we learn ? Its not automaticly that side characters having sex with other people have problems with, but how poorly implimented they are.

Studio Mystic, check this comment from this guy out and let me know what you think because I think he said something interesting. While I doubt this will a game for Harem fans like myself, I would enjoy seeing a game like this where you steal the girls from the other guys.
 
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The NTR tags on the game because ppl already consider everything that's happened NTR apparently. Player might try to steal Stella from Katsuo at some point, but it's not in the game yet. Not sure when it'll appear. I just have some vague concept in my head about how this might play out.

oh so all the classroom fucking vids with the mc and the girls are for the future? damn i was trying to figure out how the hell i missed them.
 

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I haven't written the later chapters yet, but yeah pretty much no one is safe. Maybe one or two girls will make it through unscathed. Either way, not too much has happened yet. There's only a dozen or so adult scenes. I've been informed that this game won't appeal to harem players. It's full of NTR/sharing apparently.
Yeah just thinking I should start with the basics. Anatomy lesson. Move on to bigger things next. Never thought ppl would like kanae that much lol. Essentially the two have to be a thing because its sets up something that happens to ichiro later in the story. Kinda hard to get into it. It's all spoilers. Stella and Katsuo are a thing, but she definitely gets dissatisfied with him later. The majority of the girls are going to end up with the MC at the end though. Minus the ones you lose along the way. Mei Rin and Yumi are the main LI's so those three will probably be hovering around him the majority of the game.
If you dont mind me being honest I think you should go all in with the girls meaning no one gets untouched cause it would be "weird" if they where that much into the MC when everybody is fucking everybody I think all of them should get the same treatment
 

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Mh... I think you onto something here.
Dont ge me wrong, I think I understand what you want to say but your english is a bit bumpy.
So If I understand it correctly, you think that since the game will have different people having sex but people will jump ship from the beginning, but if its portrayed in a good way, aka the girls who are fucking their BF/Husbands are weak/incapable doing their manly part and implied that MC will steal her away, these negative feelings will be less present and perhaps even encourage people to give it another try ?

Well...yes and no. I saw this method being tried out in Porn games, mostly VN, but sadly they didnt deliver. Last game I rememeber who tried it was Twin Maniax but failed miserably with it because MC was just wachting like a beta and the girls enjoyed being fucked by the others. IMO this was the last straw people jumped ship.

However:
You mention Adult toons, I see this done perfectly in Manhwas, even Harem manhwas too. If I could give a good example is "Sextudy Group"(Still ongoing), "She is Working Out" (Still ongoing) and a Doujinshi called "Sex Friend" by Makino Eki which has already 4 volumes and.

While Sextudy Group is the best example I still want to give some more examples how things could go because like in She is Working Out its not clear where it will go and Sex Friend is similar.
Giving examples here for every each would take to much time so I will go with She is Working Out because while not being the best example, I think it could be used as one if implimented correctly.

Well, what can I say about this red head in that toon ?
She is a side Character, probably a Harem member too BUT not only has she already a BF, she already had 2 sex scenes. Why is it not being hated ?
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So what can we learn ? Its not automaticly that side characters having sex with other people have problems with, but how poorly implimented they are.

Studio Mystic, check this comment from this guy out and let me know what you think because I think he said something interesting. While I doubt this will a game for Harem fans like myself, I would enjoy seeing a game like this where you steal the girls from the other guys.
If you think about fans of the harem genre, what they don't like is watching other guys fuck. It doesn't matter if it's NTR or sharing or not, but certainly if it's NTR or sharing it's usually even worse (and if the girl is a LI many will take it for NTR no matter if she is in a relationship with the MC or not).

The mistake in Twinx Maniac is not that the LIs fuck with others and enjoy it, it's that they fuck with others and you see it, that they enjoy and comment on it all the time only makes it even worse.

For me, any scene that includes a guy (or more) other than the MC with at least one LI (main or side) is a turnoff. So is losing LIs along the way. Any voyeur scene that includes girls who are not and will not be LIs isn't interesting to me at all (but for other followers of the harem genre it can also be a turnoff).

The only possibility that this game could interest me is that: 1) I don't have to see any scenes between LIs and other guys (and if possible few of them happen) 2) that once a LI is with the MC, she no longer fucks (either on screen or off) with any other guy other than the MC (and if possible not with girls either) 3) That we have the possibility that at the end of the game the MC is with ALL the LIs (this is, that there is the possibility of not losing any along the way)

But I'm not sure if those three premises fit with Studio Mystic's intentions for the game.
 

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If you think about fans of the harem genre, what they don't like is watching other guys fuck. It doesn't matter if it's NTR or sharing or not, but certainly if it's NTR or sharing it's usually even worse (and if the girl is a LI many will take it for NTR no matter if she is in a relationship with the MC or not).

The mistake in Twinx Maniac is not that the LIs fuck with others and enjoy it, it's that they fuck with others and you see it, that they enjoy and comment on it all the time only makes it even worse.

For me, any scene that includes a guy (or more) other than the MC with at least one LI (main or side) is a turnoff. So is losing LIs along the way. Any voyeur scene that includes girls who are not and will not be LIs isn't interesting to me at all (but for other followers of the harem genre it can also be a turnoff).

The only possibility that this game could interest me is that: 1) I don't have to see any scenes between LIs and other guys (and if possible few of them happen) 2) that once a LI is with the MC, she no longer fucks (either on screen or off) with any other guy other than the MC (and if possible not with girls either) 3) That we have the possibility that at the end of the game the MC is with ALL the LIs (this is, that there is the possibility of not losing any along the way)

But I'm not sure if those three premises fit with Studio Mystic's intentions for the game.
I agree but this game is not a Harem and it has NTR tag so you have to work with this mindset. What I wanted to say is if the story demands that you have to see some sex scenes with a another guy, they should be keept to the minimum and bring these "elements" of dissatisfaction with them about the partner they sleep to be most effective.

I mean like you said you hate seeing other people bang. In many cases you can skip it, aka it happens but you just dont show it.
In other games I see you can avoid it with a different path, aka it wont happend so you are safe.
However if you still need to show them, probably only for the fetish itself since the Devs. like it, I think he can impliment it with this method without shoo away many people.
There is a difference between a girl you bang who just enjoys her ride and gets crempied and it let you feel like you fuck used goods, or a girl dissatisfied with her partner, thinking of you when her BF tries to fuck her. Its mostly a story thing, rather then fetish and this game is story focused, at least for now.

Im talking more about Toons then games because like I said I never saw this well implimented. I must agree that even in the toons the main LI dont fuck withsome one else, but only side chicks who get added into the harem. Very very rarely is that a LI fucks a different guy, but like 95% its for plot reasons. Example is "Graceful Sister-in-law" where the LI only have a single sex scene with her Husband in the beginning so the story can start.

Twin Maniax may fucked up I agree, but the point was that in his eyes he needed to show them, but he failed to do it properly and people were looking for any real development there...and we all know how things ended.
Right now this game goes in the same direction but at least for now it didnt fucked it up, at least not in my eyes.
 

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I agree but this game is not a Harem and it has NTR tag so you have to work with this mindset. What I wanted to say is if the story demands that you have to see some sex scenes with a another guy, they should be keept to the minimum and bring these "elements" of dissatisfaction with them about the partner they sleep to be most effective.

I mean like you said you hate seeing other people bang. In many cases you can skip it, aka it happens but you just dont show it.
In other games I see you can avoid it with a different path, aka it wont happend so you are safe.
However if you still need to show them, probably only for the fetish itself since the Devs. like it, I think he can impliment it with this method without shoo away many people.
There is a difference between a girl you bang who just enjoys her ride and gets crempied and it let you feel like you fuck used goods, or a girl dissatisfied with her partner, thinking of you when her BF tries to fuck her. Its mostly a story thing, rather then fetish and this game is story focused, at least for now.

Im talking more about Toons then games because like I said I never saw this well implimented. I must agree that even in the toons the main LI dont fuck withsome one else, but only side chicks who get added into the harem. Very very rarely is that a LI fucks a different guy, but like 95% its for plot reasons. Example is "Graceful Sister-in-law" where the LI only have a single sex scene with her Husband in the beginning so the story can start.

Twin Maniax may fucked up I agree, but the point was that in his eyes he needed to show them, but he failed to do it properly and people were looking for any real development there...and we all know how things ended.
Right now this game goes in the same direction but at least for now it didnt fucked it up, at least not in my eyes.
This statement takes me out:

Anyone who enjoys dark and gritty story-rich visual novels. However, there are a number of tags potential players should be aware of... NTR, group sex, orgies, and bondage will all appear in the game at some point.​
I'm not attracted to a game that in the future is going to have NTR, group sex and orgies (and I guess sharing with it) which are things I don't like. If we add BDSM to it, which I don't like either, I don't see any reason to start a game that I'm sure I'll abandon sooner or later.

I'm not interested in scenes other than the MC with one or several LIs. If they're NTR or sharing they disgust me (whether I see it or not), if they're voyeur (ie the girl isn't in a relationship with the MC) hopefully I just won't be interested in seeing them.

In any case, I only went through the thread because the forum keeps sending me the rating messages and I wanted to see if I could make them not reach me somehow.

EDIT:

Technically, they won't actually die. Eaten's actually the wrong word here. It's more like vampirism now that I think about it. Whoever gets bit will just turn into a mindless husk that is only interested in having more sex. So it's still them, they've just lost all interest outside of attacking random civilians for sex. I don't want to spoil too much though. This is just one possibility of what COULD happen since I haven't actually written it yet.
Given the description, I prefer the option that they are dead.
 

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This statement takes me out:



I'm not attracted to a game that in the future is going to have NTR, group sex and orgies (and I guess sharing with it) which are things I don't like. If we add BDSM to it, which I don't like either, I don't see any reason to start a game that I'm sure I'll abandon sooner or later.

I'm not interested in scenes other than the MC with one or several LIs. If they're NTR or sharing they disgust me (whether I see it or not), if they're voyeur (ie the girl isn't in a relationship with the MC) hopefully I just won't be interested in seeing them.

In any case, I only went through the thread because the forum keeps sending me the rating messages and I wanted to see if I could make them not reach me somehow.

EDIT:



Given the description, I prefer the option that they are dead.
Well, Dev said in recent post something about that. Mainly because he wants to warn people so they dont get shocked when it happend. I could be wrong here since even the Dev said he didnt wrote the story himself to the end so you should expect everything, hence him tagging the game with scenes warnings.

I mean next chapter Kanae will bang Ichiro. From what he said Kanae is a side girl, perhaps even a background chick and her role probably exists for sex scenes with Ichiro and other guys. And we already saw Stella giving a BJ to Katsuo. With that its already a lost case and I understand you.
However,
I think if it implied well, in this case the scene with Stella and Katsuo in the WC needs to be tinkered a bit, I think it should be more bearable since it stays in its core.
I played the current update and if you ignore the scene with Stella, its purely a MC straight forwarded story.
I think Dev said Mei, Rin, Yumi are main LI so they should be fine...mostly but for now I dont see any problems.

Perhaps in the distant future if the game is succesful he might add a non-NTR path but before that he needs to finish his original sharing path to know how he can avoid things. And right now he confirmed he didnt even finished the main plot for the story.
I suggest keep it at the backburner and come in a year and see how it get.

Since I liked the update, because like I said its MC focus at this point, I will check next update. This game could be something great or it could go into the twin maniax debacle. Time will tell.
 

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Well, Dev said in recent post something about that. Mainly because he wants to warn people so they dont get shocked when it happend. I could be wrong here since even the Dev said he didnt wrote the story himself to the end so you should expect everything, hence him tagging the game with scenes warnings.

I mean next chapter Kanae will bang Ichiro. From what he said Kanae is a side girl, perhaps even a background chick and her role probably exists for sex scenes with Ichiro and other guys. And we already saw Stella giving a BJ to Katsuo. With that its already a lost case and I understand you.
However,
I think if it implied well, in this case the scene with Stella and Katsuo in the WC needs to be tinkered a bit, I think it should be more bearable since it stays in its core.
I played the current update and if you ignore the scene with Stella, its purely a MC straight forwarded story.
I think Dev said Mei, Rin, Yumi are main LI so they should be fine...mostly but for now I dont see any problems.

Perhaps in the distant future if the game is succesful he might add a non-NTR path but before that he needs to finish his original sharing path to know how he can avoid things. And right now he confirmed he didnt even finished the main plot for the story.
I suggest keep it at the backburner and come in a year and see how it get.

Since I liked the update, because like I said its MC focus at this point, I will check next update. This game could be something great or it could go into the twin maniax debacle. Time will tell.
didnt the dev said that the "dream" scene is no longer a dream but canon?
 
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Yeah ill be perfectly fine if we can have just one girl to romance and keep safe

If that happends i wont mind playing it

But seems the dev was saying that no one is safe

And its a bit weird to play a game were the MC has to go around a zombie apocalypze but he has no woman for himself

He doesnt need a truck load of women just give the MC one woman to be his and his only and it be worthwhile

But yeah if the dev just goes ahead and lets every women get foolled around with by others then alot will definatly pass on this game

It definatly wont be a harem game at this point lol
 
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Well apart from the dream stuff so far its been ok to play trough

No guy so far been doing any girl well exept for probally that president son and that black ponytail girl

But other then that so far all the girls are safe and not doing any othert guy thank god

Seems 2 or 3 girls are interested in the MC so far so lets hope we can keep one at least for himself

Groupsex with other dudes involved would suck :ROFLMAO:
 
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The dream sequence is not canon in the current scenario. To properly explain what that means, or why the other guys don't matter, I'd have to spoil the ending. The end result is a harem, but yeah, ppl who dislike group sex may not make it that far.
No worries, you have a zombie apocalypse and as far as it sounds like. You try to build up a bit consistency and logic into the world. All girls only sleeping with you is very unlikely. Not getting murdered by another guy in your sleep over it, even less.

So either you bend the world building, which just leaves a bad taste. Or you offend some people. Money says former choice, later one says personality.

I guess it is the difference between a fap game versus adult game with fap elements.
 

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The dream sequence is not canon in the current scenario. To properly explain what that means, or why the other guys don't matter, I'd have to spoil the ending. The end result is a harem, but yeah, ppl who dislike group sex may not make it that far.

I'm not knocking it,and there is absolutely a market for this type of game.(even if it's not for me )

I just suspect,that its gonna take awhile for it to really take off.

But by no means is my post meant negatively. I really wish all game devs( except for 2) the best of luck.

It's just really hard to appeal to completely different audiences. Doubly so when you're telling your story in installments
 
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