Ren'Py Rivers of Astrum: Daughter of Darkness [v0.2.1.5] [Paper Tiger]

[Kagarus]

BTW, for something less depressing: What is the current state of the update? My understanding from itch and public subscribestar posts is that it hit beta some time ago, and is now in the 1 month-early access phase after which it will hit Steam (censored) and itch (hopefully uncensored)?

 

[dewayne4478]

BTW, for something less depressing: What is the current state of the update? My understanding from itch and public subscribestar posts is that it hit beta some time ago, and is now in the 1 month-early access phase after which it will hit Steam (censored) and itch (hopefully uncensored)?

No the update is delayed cause it was to small of a update. according to his post on steam the update 70% done. I think itch will be the same. I will say to say I see steam point on rape to a extend. But since he had a option in place on one i think he referring then he was fine in my book. But if it the Vex scene im not sure i would say that rape. As incest not sure how I feel on that being banned i like how Our Home give the player the choice. To me long as you give player the choice i think your fine. i dont mind if disable default. i seen AAA games do that with nudity they have a toggle.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

BTW, for something less depressing: What is the current state of the update? My understanding from itch and public subscribestar posts is that it hit beta some time ago, and is now in the 1 month-early access phase after which it will hit Steam (censored) and itch (hopefully uncensored)?

Aye, I did release an update a month ago to my supporters, but i ended up postponing the public release because it was just WAY too short. The update had 6 animations in it, which ate up a lot of dev time. But it was short enough that it was a genuine disservice, almost even an insult (if it took you more than 3 minutes, then it means you had to go afk, basically ... it was THAT short.), so i reigned it back in, and im continuing to the originally planned end point of this update. I've done away with release dates as a result, because it was working under the pressure of trying to meet it, that caused me to rush, and almost make a pretty rough mistake.

That said, I've proven consistently bad at gauging how much time this stuff is gonna take, simply due to wildly different render times from one image to the next, but best guess should be around a month.

I'm not actually allowed by steam's rules to sell different versions on other sites, unless i sell them for *more*, because Steam doesn't want the ones who purchase it there to be "cheated" in some way. SubscribeStar is really the only place I can post the unedited version, unfortunately.

Starting to really regret getting involved with Steam. They're on thin ice now. We'll see how it goes.

 

[dewayne4478]

Aye, I did release an update a month ago to my supporters, but i ended up postponing the public release because it was just WAY too short. The update had 6 animations in it, which ate up a lot of dev time. But it was short enough that it was a genuine disservice, almost even an insult (if it took you more than 3 minutes, then it means you had to go afk, basically ... it was THAT short.), so i reigned it back in, and im continuing to the originally planned end point of this update. I've done away with release dates as a result, because it was working under the pressure of trying to meet it, that caused me to rush, and almost make a pretty rough mistake.

That said, I've proven consistently bad at gauging how much time this stuff is gonna take, simply due to wildly different render times from one image to the next, but best guess should be around a month.

I'm not actually allowed by steam's rules to sell different versions on other sites, unless i sell them for *more*, because Steam doesn't want the ones who purchase it there to be "cheated" in some way. SubscribeStar is really the only place I can post the unedited version, unfortunately.

Starting to really regret getting involved with Steam. They're on thin ice now. We'll see how it goes.

See this why i hate steam at times. they do this to you guys. But wont lift a finger to take care of asset flippers or game thieves.. scond i want something to previous pot i left out, I think your on steam you have lead way cause you approved old rules.

 

[Kagarus]

Aye, I did release an update a month ago to my supporters, but i ended up postponing the public release because it was just WAY too short. The update had 6 animations in it, which ate up a lot of dev time. But it was short enough that it was a genuine disservice, almost even an insult (if it took you more than 3 minutes, then it means you had to go afk, basically ... it was THAT short.), so i reigned it back in, and im continuing to the originally planned end point of this update. I've done away with release dates as a result, because it was working under the pressure of trying to meet it, that caused me to rush, and almost make a pretty rough mistake.

That said, I've proven consistently bad at gauging how much time this stuff is gonna take, simply due to wildly different render times from one image to the next, but best guess should be around a month.

I see, thanks. (I actually read that development lifecycle update on itch when it was posted, but didn't put 2 and 2 together when scanning Subscribestar now that this update was that update . In my defense, I'm tired )

I'm not actually allowed by steam's rules to sell different versions on other sites, unless i sell them for *more*, because Steam doesn't want the ones who purchase it there to be "cheated" in some way. SubscribeStar is really the only place I can post the unedited version, unfortunately.

Starting to really regret getting involved with Steam. They're on thin ice now. We'll see how it goes.

So Steam forces its decision even on those of use who deliberately (well, Steam wasn't an option here anyway, but still) chose to give one of their competitors their business, cool
I guess the "free patch that doesn't belong to any storefront" loophole is also gone.

Anyway, looking forward to the next update

 

[Dessolos]

So Steam forces its decision even on those of use who deliberately (well, Steam wasn't an option here anyway, but still) chose to give one of their competitors their business, cool
I guess the "free patch that doesn't belong to any storefront" loophole is also gone.

Anyway, looking forward to the next update

Honestly I get the feeling if AVN's / porn game's wasn't a niche genre of gaming Steam would give a shit but I got the impression because it isn't a big source of gaming they probably didn't try to fight against the changes much or want to put alot of money towards fighting it. But that is just my personal guess I could be totally wrong

 

[dewayne4478]

Just a reminder itch.co had to do this bout 2yrs ago too.

 

[Rehwyn]

Just a reminder itch.co had to do this bout 2yrs ago too.

The hope was that Steam was big enough they could afford to push back more than Patreon and itch.io, and that seemed to work for a while. I've seen speculation that what's caused this shift with Steam now is the UK Online Safety law goes in to effect next week (which was politicized as a "protect the children" bill that really doesn't and just amounts to censorship and loss of privacy).

 

[dewayne4478]

The hope was that Steam was big enough they could afford to push back more than Patreon and itch.io, and that seemed to work for a while. I've seen speculation that what's caused this shift with Steam now is the UK Online Safety law goes in to effect next week (which was politicized as a "protect the children" bill that really doesn't and just amounts to censorship and loss of privacy).

True I see that. I think i was more saying this isnt the first or last time. UK well that explains it. as I said ROA discord. I already US indie dev may take some legal as he claim this is telling how to make his game in the US. Not sure if was truee or but i thoought i post it. Yes i know it secondhand, but last time i ignored something like that. Three months later I was reading bout a lawsuit being filed.

 

[Dessolos]

The hope was that Steam was big enough they could afford to push back more than Patreon and itch.io, and that seemed to work for a while. I've seen speculation that what's caused this shift with Steam now is the UK Online Safety law goes in to effect next week (which was politicized as a "protect the children" bill that really doesn't and just amounts to censorship and loss of privacy).

Honestly I'm not surprised they gave in at some point. Even if they have the money to fight back more , I just can't see them putting in alot of effort or money compared to other area's of gaming. Since porn games are a niche market of video games and I would be surprised if was worth it them.

 

[Merlin-Magic]

Aye, I did release an update a month ago to my supporters, but i ended up postponing the public release because it was just WAY too short. The update had 6 animations in it, which ate up a lot of dev time. But it was short enough that it was a genuine disservice, almost even an insult (if it took you more than 3 minutes, then it means you had to go afk, basically ... it was THAT short.), so i reigned it back in, and im continuing to the originally planned end point of this update. I've done away with release dates as a result, because it was working under the pressure of trying to meet it, that caused me to rush, and almost make a pretty rough mistake.

That said, I've proven consistently bad at gauging how much time this stuff is gonna take, simply due to wildly different render times from one image to the next, but best guess should be around a month.

I'm not actually allowed by steam's rules to sell different versions on other sites, unless i sell them for *more*, because Steam doesn't want the ones who purchase it there to be "cheated" in some way. SubscribeStar is really the only place I can post the unedited version, unfortunately.

Starting to really regret getting involved with Steam. They're on thin ice now. We'll see how it goes.

Well you already know my feelings about Steam, MasterCard and especially PayPal (who screwed me royally for a couple of years). No one can mess up a good game faster than those guys can. As much as I am not a big fan of SubStar either, they are by far less evil than the alternative.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Well you already know my feelings about Steam, MasterCard and especially PayPal (who screwed me royally for a couple of years). No one can mess up a good game faster than those guys can. As much as I am not a big fan of SubStar either, they are by far less evil than the alternative.

Aye, ive made my feelings about this known, on Steam even. At this point, i'll hang around as long as they let me. But I see the writing on the wall. I'll make no additional efforts to comply. If they do this shit again, or get on my nerves really in ANY other way, im pulling the game my fucking self. At which point i'd promptly release the most recent update here on F95 .... seriously. Fuck Steam right now.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Actually wrote to my congressman today, for the first time in my entire life, over this MasterCard overreach. There are currently two bills sitting in American Congress aimed at preventing the likes of MC/Visa from doing exactly what they just did with Steam.

Those bills are:

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and

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I understand if you all may not be as motivated to stand up to these guys as i am, but I'd urge every American to speak to their congressmen about voting to pass these two bills, to prevent the MC Overlords from shoving their puritanical agenda down the throats of the entire world.

 

[Maxh]

Actually wrote to my congressman today, for the first time in my entire life, over this MasterCard overreach. There are currently two bills sitting in American Congress aimed at preventing the likes of MC/Visa from doing exactly what they just did with Steam.

Those bills are:

You must be registered to see the links

and

You must be registered to see the links

I understand if you all may not be as motivated to stand up to these guys as i am, but I'd urge every American to speak to their congressmen about voting to pass these two bills, to prevent the MC Overlords from shoving their puritanical agenda down the throats of the entire world.

Im not American but I do know that conservative pundits and talk show people have also been getting hit by woke people in these corporatations, it started happening to them back in 2016 because of how much people hated trump after he won. As long as the (R) reps get reminded of that alot should support the bill.

 

[Paper Tiger 83]

Getting a little info on the group that is claiming responsibility for this, and my god are they *gloating* about it, all while intentionally mischaracterizing the living shit out of all of us.

 

[Kagarus]

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Getting a little info on the group that is claiming responsibility for this, and my god are they *gloating* about it, all while intentionally mischaracterizing the living shit out of all of us.

ROFL, and of course it's a reactionary christian anti-abortion TERF. And of course NCOSE and Exodus Cry were also involved.

 

[Knight_of_the_lance]

It's always the same group of organisations. I remember at the time during the Pornhub cleanse there was a lot of local news article covering the subject since Mindgeek is/was a local business. They found out that those organisations where behind the journalist who exposed the supposedly exploitative videos. (I'm not saying there weren't or that pornhub was doing a good enough job of removing those.) Apparently a lot of the evidence might have been fabricated. An other article pointed out how a member of one of those organisation had the direct ear of the Mastercard CEO.

You might still be able to find English version of those articles on CBC's website. I consume my news in French. And yes one of the owners of pornhub did get his in construction mansion burnt down located in a zone that was supposed to be kept a natural environment.

 

[Udayana]

ROFL, and of course it's a reactionary christian anti-abortion TERF. And of course NCOSE and Exodus Cry were also involved.

Is there a dictionary to understand what you write? For non-Americans. There are some, you know.
[Edit] I don't really care actually. Your matters are your matters.

 

[Rehwyn]

Is there a dictionary to understand what you write? For non-Americans. There are some, you know.
[Edit] I don't really care actually. Your matters are your matters.

Allow me to clarify:

Rolling on the floor laughing, and of course it's a reactionary christian anti-abortion trans-exclusionary radical feminist that's pushing for the recent Steam changes and bans. And of course the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (an American conservative anti-pornography organization) and Exodus Cry (an American Christian non-profit advocacy organization seeking the abolition of the legal commercial sex industry, including pornography, strip clubs, and sex work) were also involved.

 

[Udayana]

Allow me to clarify:

Thank you. Obviously what's wrong with "Rivers of Astrum" is the fight between Vex and Laura. Unbearably violent and erotic