sleepingkirby

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To extinguish your hope, modern day Disney remember.
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Make sure to just grab clips of the girls. The only possible interesting thing.
As someone that once worked for disney, this isn't modern day disney, this is how disney has always been. You just see less of it because they didn't have access to social media to directly pander to. Rated G when facing the public and scumbag when behind the curtain has always been their modus operandi.
 

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As someone that once worked for disney, this isn't modern day disney, this is how disney has always been. You just see less of it because they didn't have access to social media to directly pander to. Rated G when facing the public and scumbag when behind the curtain has always been their modus operandi.
After the travesty to Cinema that was Star Wars Episode 8 and 9, and the overt agenda pushing inserted into every Marvel property in existence, combined with utterly souless live action remakes there is quite literally nothing Disney puts out anymore that I have even the slightest interest in. This X-Men reboot is no different.

The last bit of fun I managed to have was Spiderman No Way home, but that was just siphoning what bit of joy it could from the Raimi Spiderman trilogy, and not any merit of its own. Even Guardians of the Galaxy 3 didn't manage to recapture my interest anymore, and Guardians 1 & 2 were my favorite films of the entire Disney run of Marvel movies.
 
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After the travesty to Cinema that was Star Wars Episode 8 and 9, and the overt agenda pushing inserted into every Marvel property in existence, combined with utterly souless live action remakes there is quite literally nothing Disney puts out anymore that I have even the slightest interest in. This X-Men reboot is no different.

The last bit of fun I managed to have was Spiderman No Way home, but that was just siphoning what bit of joy it could from the Raimi Spiderman trilogy, and not any merit of its own. Even Guardians of the Galaxy 3 didn't manage to recapture my interest anymore, and Guardians 1 & 2 were my favorite films of the entire Disney run of Marvel movies.
Think want you want, I don't want to get off topic. Again, I worked for them. There's a reason why the other studios (prior to them all being bought out by Disney) referred to Disney as "The Rat". The "agenda", as you put it, is just the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people. The only difference now is that the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people, offends the very loud and oppressive people.

But back to the topic at hand. Like X-Men has always tackled things like prejudice, racism, puberty and sexual orientation. If you don't believe me, the wikipedia article on X-Men has sources:

The conflict between mutants and normal humans is often compared to real-world conflicts experienced by minority groups in such as , various religious or non-religious groups, ( , individuals, the , etc.)
Some commentators have noted the similarities between the struggles of mutants and the community, noting the onset of special powers around and the parallels between being and the mutants' concealment of their powers. In the comics series, gay and characters include , , Destiny, Karma, Mystique, Psylocke,
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It has been said that the comic books and the X-Men animated series delved into the epidemic with a long-running plot line about the , a seemingly incurable disease thought at first to attack only mutants (similar to the AIDS virus which at first was spread through the gay community). In the film , is asked by his CIA boss why he never disclosed his mutant identity, and his response was .
Like, no one would have a problem with Mystique macking on guys and girls. But Morph, another shapeshifter doing so is "the agenda"? Seems kinda sus to me...
 

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No. Fucking. Thanks. Spamwich. Modern cartoons are a NO and a cringe for me man
First second into the preview we get a quick fanshot of Calisto and Leech...which is then ruined by the Daily Bugle proudly displaying a line discussing the "Hellfire Gala" - the worst story out of the entire run. Written by Eddie Brock, photos by Peter Parker. Which just wrecked continuity as the original X-MEN & Spider-man TAS ran concurrently and cross-overed. Poorly drawn and poorly animated FoH protesters. A shot of either Magneto or Shredder facing the UN. Can YOU tell the difference?

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What is literally wrong with the line art? Nothing looks right at all. Was this done entirely by AI?! Oh, and Jubilee's VA refused to return because "she ain't 'Asian'"!

1708064070181.png <- Rogue's breast reduction.
1708064105762.png <- Rogue's ass reduction.

There is nothing about this that looks like it was created by a human mind with human artistic ability:
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1708064335846.png <- That's Mag-fucking-neto!

As a reminder, THIS is what the show looked like 30 years ago:
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Think want you want, I don't want to get off topic. Again, I worked for them. There's a reason why the other studios (prior to them all being bought out by Disney) referred to Disney as "The Rat". The "agenda", as you put it, is just the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people. The only difference now is that the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people, offends the very loud and oppressive people.

But back to the topic at hand. Like X-Men has always tackled things like prejudice, racism, puberty and sexual orientation. If you don't believe me, the wikipedia article on X-Men has sources:



Like, no one would have a problem with Mystique macking on guys and girls. But Morph, another shapeshifter doing so is "the agenda"? Seems kinda sus to me...
I am bisexual my guy, and I actually agree that X-Men is not a bad place to discuss those topics, especially considering X-Men's initial concept was a sort of analog for racism in society. My problems with the cartoon specifically boil down to it looking like a low effort cash grab that's overtly just trying to cash in on nostalgia. My issue with their agenda is when it's inserted into literally EVERYTHING constantly. It is downright obnoxious, and modern Disney is notorious for it. You seem like a reasonable person, so I'll just leave it at that. This is veering way too far off topic for this thread anyhow. Cheers.
 

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Think want you want, I don't want to get off topic. Again, I worked for them. There's a reason why the other studios (prior to them all being bought out by Disney) referred to Disney as "The Rat". The "agenda", as you put it, is just the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people. The only difference now is that the latest, safest, rated G way to not offend the most amount of people, offends the very loud and oppressive people.
I can describe Marvel and Disney as many things; safe, anti-oppressive and profit driven would not be one of them.
 
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if psylock is supposed to be asian, how come she looks not asian most of the time? (i know she's possessing some other girl's body)
 

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...I actually agree that X-Men is not a bad place to discuss those topics, especially considering X-Men's initial concept... My issue with their agenda is when it's inserted into literally EVERYTHING constantly.
So... X-Men has traditionally talked about LGBTQ stuff... but having it is in X-Men an "agenda" being inserted? Not following the logic here.
 

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... You maaaaaaay want to keep your expectations low. The bombastic announcement of Morph joining the cast as newly non-binary rather suggests that it's been... what's that phrase... "updated for a modern audience". But who knows, might get pleasantly surprised by Disney-owned Marvel... it'd be a change.
I just happy i can watch because i still healthy many my friends already gone. At this point on life I try to get away as far from my depression
 

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if psylock is supposed to be asian, how come she looks not asian most of the time? (i know she's possessing some other girl's body)
Short and oversimplified answer, western style art/artist (which is ironic because Jim Lee is Korean American). Long answer, a lot of 90's artists can't draw Asian faces so they all look the same/similar to the artist's default face, which is usually Caucasian looking. Like look at Jubilee. Like, look at this:
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If you had no context, would you think Jubilee is Asian? Any more than Wolverine (Who's obviously not Asian)?
 

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it never talked about any particular issue but addressed all social issues low-key.
So... it's already there, just low-key. But it being said not as low-key is somehow inserting something that was already there? Real talk, I was an immigrant to the US as a kid so my first language isn't English. Am I not understanding the word "insert" or something? Like, can someone explain it to me like I'm still learning English how you can put object A into object B when object A is already in object B?
 

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For me as long, the character not become character without fault i go with any storyline, i mean looks at kamala character that really clean without fault like her only work during the beginning for her character now here storyline kinda boring, i love her at the beginning and always buy it now only buy the comic now mostly only to complete storyline if her comic is on the storyline tittle. But i need to admit if overcomplicated like krakoa arc i also buy because begrudgingly and miss some comic

Sidenote:i love how this game thread discussion pretty good and showing how everyone have grab on lore and mostly civil, i mean well it's pretty good remembering this is porn game thread lol, small joke in the end but yeah amazing I think for everyone
 
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